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Old 11-30-11, 09:52 AM   #1
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Size v. Quality

Ladies,

Would you rather receive:

a 1-carat round solitaire, but in about an H or I (near colorless range) and SI (inclusions, not visible to naked eye)

OR

a 0.80 carat, F (colorless range), IF (internally flawless).

Difference in diameter is about 6mm versus 6.5mm

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Maybe it's just me, but I'd prefer a set of new tires....
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This is very much a personal preference. Does the woman this ring is intended for like big, blingy jewelry? If so, get the bigger stone.
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If it matters to her....find a new woman.
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Old 11-30-11, 11:11 AM   #5
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If it matters to her....find a new woman.
Yeah, that attitude is just a tad bit extreme and silly. If you had a fixed budget for your next bicycle you'd go thru the same process going thru all the options, e.g. carbon or ti, Shimano or SRAM, etc. It's not an issue of saying should I spend $10k or 50k or whatever.
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If it matters to her....find a new woman.
We're talking about the same pricepoint.
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Ladies,

Would you rather receive:

a 1-carat round solitaire, but in about an H or I (near colorless range) and SI (inclusions, not visible to naked eye)

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a 0.80 carat, F (colorless range), IF (internally flawless).

Difference in diameter is about 6mm versus 6.5mm
This depends on the woman. My wife likes nice things but would be pissed if I gave her unwieldy (on her hand) jewelry. Having said that, there is not a big visual difference between .8 and 1ct.

There are plenty of nice diamonds out there... cut & how the diamond is mounted are the major factors in how much the ring sparkles. Note that the designer cuts @ various jewelers are not necessarily better than other stones.
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I would go with the smaller stone.
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We're talking about the same pricepoint.
What makes you think price was my focus?
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Bigger... she will show it around to other girls, the bigger the better.
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Yeah, that attitude is just a tad bit extreme and silly. If you had a fixed budget for your next bicycle you'd go thru the same process going thru all the options, e.g. carbon or ti, Shimano or SRAM, etc. It's not an issue of saying should I spend $10k or 50k or whatever.
No actually I think Modo is right... hopefully you aren't so young and foolish to not understand...

Frankly as a woman the ring is not as important as the man I am getting... quality is always more important than quantity... unless your woman is superficial and likes to show off... than why are you marrying her?
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What makes you think price was my focus?
What makes you think it matters to her??

It's a moot point ....

I have a budget, I have already decided what is appropriate in terms of how much to spend, and I'm looking at different stones of different specs. Anyone who has shopped for one knows there are trade-offs. Everything is a compromise if you have a budget, which is 99.999% of us.

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Old 11-30-11, 09:47 PM   #13
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I would go with the smaller stone.

I agree, for the reason that the size difference in diameter is only about 0.5mm, and with an IF clarity grade, there is almost no risk of fractures or chips that might result from "feather" type inclusions found in lower clarity grades. As a symbol of long-lastingness, I feel better about going for the slightly smaller but much higher quality stone.
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None of the above. Diamonds are terrible buys, with prices being propped up by an effective monopoly and huge margins at the jewelers'. All that 4-C talk is just a way to justify the high cost; put some qualitative measurements on artificial constructs and watch people pay more for characteristics that don't matter.

You don't have to take my word for it. You can google and verify that there's no natural shortage of diamonds. Another easy way to verify this is to look at the used market. No, don't go by its appraisal value (worthless since no one will buy it at that price) but by how much you can sell used but like-new diamond-based jewelry for. Unless it's some antique or a really unique diamond (read: millions of dollars), you'll loose more than half your purchase price the minute you walk out the jewelers'. Yes, that's worse than a car.

Put the money into a really nice vacation together. Those memories will last longer than diamonds.
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I agree, for the reason that the size difference in diameter is only about 0.5mm, and with an IF clarity grade, there is almost no risk of fractures or chips that might result from "feather" type inclusions found in lower clarity grades. As a symbol of long-lastingness, I feel better about going for the slightly smaller but much higher quality stone.
That was my initial reaction, too. And I verified it with my wife.
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No actually I think Modo is right... hopefully you aren't so young and foolish to not understand...

Frankly as a woman the ring is not as important as the man I am getting... quality is always more important than quantity... unless your woman is superficial and likes to show off... than why are you marrying her?
I agree with both of you. For me, a bling ring is not needed.

I guess we are just different. *shrugs*
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The actual valuelessness of diamonds, the people who desire them, the wholly artificial, invented market for them in the first place, and the horrible consequences of their mining and production aside:

How can you wear these stupid things?

A giant lump on your finger will only serve to catch, scratch, and scrape on absolutely anything you can imagine. That just sounds amazingly annoying whether you paid $3000 or got it out of a ******* Jack box.
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I agree with both of you. For me, a bling ring is not needed.

I guess we are just different. *shrugs*
The OPs GF might feel the same way about pickup trucks and fancy wheels. "winks"
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Unless it's some antique or a really unique diamond (read: millions of dollars), you'll loose more than half your purchase price the minute you walk out the jewelers'. Yes, that's worse than a car.
Dumb analagy - the car will never stop depreciating. It's funny how most people have no qualms about dropping 30 grand on a vehicle but snicker at others for spending on things that last a lifetime.
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What makes you think it matters to her??

It's a moot point and discussed ad nauseum. And you're preaching to the choir, so you are not adding anything new to the collective knowledge or opinion base with the silly comment.

I have a budget, I have already decided what is appropriate in terms of how much to spend, and I'm looking at different stones of different specs. Anyone who has shopped for one knows there are trade-offs. Everything is a compromise if you have a budget, which is 99.999% of us.

So, the inane point about "if it matters to her blah blah blah...." is misplaced. That kind of comment would be more appropriate if the question were "gee, I'm behind on my mortgage payment but I really want to impress my sweetie with a 3-carat rock." The question of which SPECS to get within a given, predetermined budget is natural and reasonable. It's an inexpensive purchase, a purchase intended to last a lifetime, and therefore a decision that merits careful decision making. This inane, ridiculous comment, belongs in another thread on another forum. Very troll-like.
Probably should give you a lecture on personal finance....but I doubt it would help.
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The OPs GF might feel the same way about pickup trucks and fancy wheels. "winks"
oh...you mean useable stuff that might actually help produce more income?
The fancy wheels? meh....
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come on, let the guy get the diamond... and let him be happy about it. she can pawn it later it things get rough
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Probably should give you a lecture on personal finance....but I doubt it would help.
HA!!! How can you possibly be in a position to give me a lecture on personal finance, knowing absolutely nothing about me or my financial situation or my budget or how I arrived at my budget? What qualifies you to be dispensing financial advice?

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come on, let the guy get the diamond... and let him be happy about it.
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It's no different than spending money on bike/car schwag or a big screen TV. If it makes him happy and his SO happy, who cares?
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It's no different than spending money on bike/car schwag or a big screen TV. If it makes him happy and his SO happy, who cares?
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