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    Cant find the stud! >:(

    I'm putting up a TV in a room and it's been a nightmare. First, the so called "stud finder" was giving me different readings all the time. It felt like somebody was behind the wall moving the studs to aggravate me. It was also "warning" me about electrical wires. I got on the attic, no wires going down on that location. But a 2x4 lays horizontally and cover the verticals studs so I can't locate them from there.

    Came back down and looked at the wall in anger. Then noticed marks of previous screws, cheaply covered by a layer of putty. I took a needle and stick it in using pliers. It felt like drywall consistency for about 3/4 of an inch, then hit something more solid that felt like wood.

    Confident on having found the stud, I fired up the dril on location. Again, it felt like drywall for 3/4 of an inch, then felt definitely like wood for about 1.5 inches when all of the sudden I hear the peculiar sound of a drill-bit grinding on concrete. I was expecting at least 4 inches of wood, and no concrete.

    I went outside and the exterior seems to be some kind of decorative concrete. But still, shouldn't the wood section be deeper? I am very confused.
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    <--- The stud is right here.
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    Hey guyz? Guyz? Wait up!! Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
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    LOL! This could only happen to Ruben.

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    Hey guyz? Guyz? Wait up!! Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeybikes View Post
    <--- The stud is right here.
    There ya go. Put that huge nail RIGHT THERE!! And hit it HARD!
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    Well, a 2x4 is neither 2 or 4.


    More like 1.5 inch x 3.5 inch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
    There ya go. Put that huge nail RIGHT THERE!! And hit it HARD!
    Please, only my wife is allowed to nail me.
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    You guys are not helpin' :\
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    Hey guyz? Guyz? Wait up!! Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
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    So you are hitting concrete. What do you want us to do here to help you? If you can hang on, I'll go get my Lear jet and be there in a couple of hours.
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    Sounds like you hit the 2x4 on the flat.

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    So go get a masonry drill bit and have at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
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    I went outside and the exterior seems to be some kind of decorative concrete. But still, shouldn't the wood section be deeper? I am very confused.
    So...You've never before seen the outside of your home?
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    Is your landlord okay with you drilling holes?

    It almost sounds like the 2x4s are in the wall flat. Not being an expert on home construction, I don't know if that is normal or not.

    As was stated, a 2x4 is really like 1.5x3.5.
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    No Rubacarpenter.
    From the design/layout of the house you just nailed the 4" sewer stack in the wall.

    About now you should have the acute aroma of poop wafting through the house.
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    I have never once owned a studfinder.

    Use your knuckle and your brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wordbiker View Post
    I have never once owned a studfinder.

    Use your knuckle and your brain.
    Or if your brain is not functioning, borrow someone else's!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
    You guys are not helpin' :\
    Wait, you wanted help? This is Foo.
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    I've heard that stud-finders work great, but they always go haywire around me.

    An inch and a half is plenty of wood to hang a TV, Ruben.

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    Ruben, you can't rely on what you see from the attic to determine if there's wiring in a wall or not. The horizontal top plate (2x4) blocks your view into the wall. Yes, wiring can enter and exit a wall thru the top plate at the attic, however wiring can easily come from the basement / crawlspace, from another wall around a corner, etc. Within a wall, a wire can travel horizontally through most of the studs, then vertically along a stud at any point, then horizontally again. The possibilities are endless. Please be careful.
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    You have to understand Fl construction, especially exterior walls. 1/2 inch drywall on 3/4 furring strips which are attached to 8 inch blocks covered with stucco. None of the Rubes in this thread do as they live in their Denver and up north homes built entirely different.

    Do not rely on cheap plastic anchors or some short wood screw into the furring strips. NOT ENOUGH MEAT

    The best solution for your gig is this: 3 inch Tapcon (not imitations). Using the bit that comes with them drill through drywall, and whatever else is in the cavity (not wires obviously) and I guarantee if you follow Tapcon instructions the 3 inch ones will hold your bracket if laid in a pattern. You will need a decent battery drill to hammer drill the bit and to turn the Tapcon's as they are tougher than you think. Hammer drill is important and so is drilling hole DEEPER than screw length.

    Wiring in block homes goes AROUND the rooms apprx at outlet height, but the home runs (back to panel) to go up. I wouldn't worry about hitting wires. Besides, you rent that place.

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    wfin, thanks for clearing that up. Glad to know Rube's shanty is at least built to code.
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    Ok, so it is correct to find 3/4 drywall, 2 inch wood, then concrete/stucco. Following recommendations, I'm not gonna use the plastic anchors and screws that came with the TV Mount. I shall go to the manhood store (AKA Hardware Store) and get proper tapcon for the task. While I'm at it, I'm also gonna get a proper drill. Current drill is old and weak and I don't wanna spend 4 hours per hole (I might get quoted outta context for that one).

    In the mean-time, let me get started with the next issue: The Drop.

    The room in question didn't had any cable tv connections on the walls (which is good, I hate TV). There was one telephone jack, properly installed on a box. I took off the telephone faceplate and thought about repurposing the nicely installed box as TV jack. I tied up a string to the telephone cable, went to the attic and pull it up. Then I tied up & taped a TV cable to the string and tried to do the same but the string broke. If I recall correctly from my cable-installer days, there is a specific tool for this job. Is a set of sticks that screw into one another making a longer stick. This stick is inserted section by section from the attic till you reach the box/hole and then pull it back with a string or cable attached. I don't remember if this tool had a specific name. And that was years ago, there might be better tools now days. I know I could ask the hardware store guys... but what I have near by is one of those clueless-depot where employees don't know nothin' bout nothin'.
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    You need Fish Tape. Made with reel fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeybikes View Post
    You need Fish Tape. Made with reel fish.
    Fish tape... I would have never guessed that name... thx, that exactly what I was looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
    So you are hitting concrete. What do you want us to do here to help you? If you can hang on, I'll go get my Lear jet and be there in a couple of hours.

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    Jsharr. you know it's Lear and not Leer because? Remember this is Foo so maybe leer is apporpriate and the OP of the quoted phrase is Lady Siu who is smart and knows the difference betwixt the two.

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