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Old 12-08-11, 09:27 PM   #1
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Are there any hunters around here?

I have afew questions that might be easy to answer by somebody who already hunt stuff.

Licenses:


I wanna hunt big game (deer & bear maybe) is FL and GA. Do I have to get separate Licenses for FL and GA or can I get something that will cover both states?

What the heck is the "sportsman" license?

Guns:


Given that I'm not gonna be hunting everyday, I can get something cheap for now and upgrade later if I really like the hobby. Can a cheapo .22 from x-mart take down a deer? Do I need something bigger? What caliber?

Clothing:

What's the point of wearing camouflage stuff if you have to wear a shiny orange vest over it? Kinda defeat the purpose me think. Is it like some kind of balance between not being noticed by the deer but still remain visible to other hunters?

Classes:

Are there any classes I need to take before getting the licenses? Can it be done on the internetz?

Gun Permits?


Do I need any kind of weapon permit to carry a rifle in the woods? I'm sure the concealed weapons permit don't apply... rifle is too big to be concealed below the clothes.
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Licenses:

I wanna hunt big game (deer & bear maybe) is FL and GA. Do I have to get separate Licenses for FL and GA or can I get something that will cover both states?

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What the heck is the "sportsman" license?

Covers big and small game plus fishing

Guns:

Given that I'm not gonna be hunting everyday, I can get something cheap for now and upgrade later if I really like the hobby. Can a cheapo .22 from x-mart take down a deer? Do I need something bigger? What caliber?

It is illegal to hunt deer with a .22. Depending on the area, you may need to use a shotgun with slugs. Otherwise a rifle of suitable caliber

Clothing:

What's the point of wearing camouflage stuff if you have to wear a shiny orange vest over it? Kinda defeat the purpose me think. Is it like some kind of balance between not being noticed by the deer but still remain visible to other hunters?

Deer are color blind

Classes:

Are there any classes I need to take before getting the licenses?

Yes

Can it be done on the internetz?

No

Gun Permits?

Do I need any kind of weapon permit to carry a rifle in the woods?


No

I'm sure the concealed weapons permit don't apply... rifle is too big to be concealed below the clothes.

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Old 12-08-11, 09:50 PM   #3
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Oh yeah, you'll shoot your eye out.

Gun safety is no laughing matter. This year in NY an 18 year-old shot himself in the face while dragging a deer - he's dead. Another man shot and killed his long time friend - he commited suicide afterwards - his poor wife - their 18 year-old daughter was killed in a snowmobile accident last year.

You really need to spend several years hunting with an experienced hunter to learn the ropes of big game hunting. Safe gun handling can't be taught in the course of a few hours. It's learned.

Are you doing this for "free" meat, because if you are just go to the store.

Gun - cheep one - $300

License - ?

Gas for the car - ?

Beer - ?

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Although I am not an avid hunter, in my town it's a huge part of the local economy and culture.

Licenses: Yes, you'll need separate licenses AFAIK. Keep in mind that unless you can prove residency, out of state tags can be as much as ten times the local's rate. Best to hunt your own locale for many reasons.

Guns: Please see classes and Permits.

Clothing: The point is that deer are colorblind, most other hunters are not. Believe me, when you hear a few stories about other hunters shooting at movement in the bushes...you want to be seen.

Classes: My state requires every hunter to attend hunter safety classes. If you go, pay attention. It could save your life. They also teach about the ethics of hunting that are far more than just good advice. The goal is to harvest an animal in the most humane way possible, meaning you don't take the shot until you know that it's a kill (meaning you've practiced. My class required a shooting skills test to pass), you've determined the sex of the animal (depending on what tag you posess) and you've examined the backdrop to not endanger any other woods travelers...not necessarily in that order.

Gun Permits: State firearms laws vary from state to state. It is your responsibility to research them and conform.

It can be expensive, but check into outfitters in the area you wish to hunt. They know the region and it's their job to keep you safe, warm, and as successful in your hunt as possible. Later when you learn more you can strike out on your own.
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Old 12-08-11, 09:56 PM   #5
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I have afew questions that might be easy to answer by somebody who already hunt stuff.

Licenses:


I wanna hunt big game (deer & bear maybe) is FL and GA. Do I have to get separate Licenses for FL and GA or can I get something that will cover both states?

What the heck is the "sportsman" license?

Guns:


Given that I'm not gonna be hunting everyday, I can get something cheap for now and upgrade later if I really like the hobby. Can a cheapo .22 from x-mart take down a deer? Do I need something bigger? What caliber?

Clothing:

What's the point of wearing camouflage stuff if you have to wear a shiny orange vest over it? Kinda defeat the purpose me think. Is it like some kind of balance between not being noticed by the deer but still remain visible to other hunters?

Classes:

Are there any classes I need to take before getting the licenses? Can it be done on the internetz?

Gun Permits?


Do I need any kind of weapon permit to carry a rifle in the woods? I'm sure the concealed weapons permit don't apply... rifle is too big to be concealed below the clothes.
Fl, you can get a resident's license

GA, you need a nonresident.

No, you cannot use a .22 to hunt deer.

You may need to take a hunters education class. Refer to both states DNR sites for hunting regs and permoits/licenses.
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Old 12-09-11, 02:55 AM   #6
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OK... I've been reading a lot and (regulations aside) it seems that the opinions on "rifle vs shotgun" are just as passionate like the "campy vs shimano" threads. And in the middle there's something called a "rifled barred shotgun" which sounds like a hybrid between the two. Others say that it doesn't matter what I start with because, if I end up liking it, I'm bound to end up with a few rifles and shotguns of all kinds. Similar to bike riding where you end up with a garage full of bikes.

I still need to find out if an average sized deer can fit in the truck of the Hyundai. And I have to google the term "smooth board" which is mentioned a lot and I have no idea what it means.
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All the above is good advice. Comb the gun stores for a used rifle. A .243 is a good choice for a Florida deer, though it's marginal for our big corn-fed Northern brutes and if you'd ever want to go after boar it's far too light.

Read the classic gun writers, Jack O'Connor and Townsend Whelen and Robert Ruark. Definitely a cut above today's writers. This can be a very rewrding pursuit, but it's nothing to take lightly.
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OK... I've been reading a lot and (regulations aside) it seems that the opinions on "rifle vs shotgun" are just as passionate like the "campy vs shimano" threads. And in the middle there's something called a "rifled barred shotgun" which sounds like a hybrid between the two. Others say that it doesn't matter what I start with because, if I end up liking it, I'm bound to end up with a few rifles and shotguns of all kinds. Similar to bike riding where you end up with a garage full of bikes.

I still need to find out if an average sized deer can fit in the truck of the Hyundai. And I have to google the term "smooth board" which is mentioned a lot and I have no idea what it means.
Smooth Bore - A shotgun barrel with no rifling - requires that you use rifled slugs.

Rifled shotgun barrel - allows you to use sabots - more accurate than the above.
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I can't rememember what year this was taken. That's my 870 "smooth bore" hangin' on the rack. There's a smaller buck to the right of "old swampy".

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There ya go Rube.

An 870 smoothbore,ammo bandelero,12 pack Keystone,Florida permit,Puerto Rican toothpick(pocket knife),and you're ready to hit the Everglades for big game.
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I wanna hunt big game (deer & bear maybe) is FL and GA. Do I have to get separate Licenses for FL and GA or can I get something that will cover both states?

What the heck is the "sportsman" license?

Guns:


- as stated above, covers small game, big game, fishing, and perhaps even WMA's (but not sure on that one).

Given that I'm not gonna be hunting everyday, I can get something cheap for now and upgrade later if I really like the hobby. Can a cheapo .22 from x-mart take down a deer? Do I need something bigger? What caliber?

In GA, it must be a center fire cartridge. So, a .223 is a valid caliber to hunt with, but personally, I'd want to throw a bit larger lead at the animal. I prefer a 30-30 or better for deer. For bear....get the biggest thing you can find. A 444 Marlin is a good gun for both deer and bear, from what I've heard.


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What's the point of wearing camouflage stuff if you have to wear a shiny orange vest over it? Kinda defeat the purpose me think. Is it like some kind of balance between not being noticed by the deer but still remain visible to other hunters?
Camo is good for hunting...but keep in mind, you want other hunters to know you're there. So, something of safety orange is almost mandatory.


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Are there any classes I need to take before getting the licenses? Can it be done on the internetz?
Hunter safety coars is worth every penny. Take it. Do not take anything online...go to a classroom and get grossed out by pics of self inflicted gun shots.


Gun Permits?


Do I need any kind of weapon permit to carry a rifle in the woods? I'm sure the concealed weapons permit don't apply... rifle is too big to be concealed below the clothes.

No gun permit needed in GA unless you are going to buy a hand gun...even then, I don't think you need a permit except for concealed carry. For a rifle or shotgun? No permit.

Have fun, be careful, and good luck.
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These questions are disturbing.
Have you ever butchered a deer?

After you have all this, go with someone who knows what they're doing for the first few trips.
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Pretty much covered by everyone else. The out of state license will likely be more expensive than the instate one. In the end, you might want to just pick one and roll with it.


If I wasn't a hunter, I'd really be failing to live up to my real name.
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for a rifle look at something in a 30-06 caliber, has about the greatest range of different powder loads and weights of bullets out there; therefore you can pick a particular load for each style/animal you ae hunting.
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for a rifle look at something in a 30-06 caliber, has about the greatest range of different powder loads and weights of bullets out there; therefore you can pick a particular load for each style/animal you ae hunting.
Is it too soon to start discussing Black Powder with him?
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These questions are disturbing.
Have you ever butchered a deer?

After you have all this, go with someone who knows what they're doing for the first few trips.
Oh, I have that figured out. The place I'm planning to go has deer processing plants all over the place and people have 4 tracks to move the game out of the woods.

I went to a local "Gander Mountain" store which is kinda like a walmart (it's huuuuge) for fishing/hunting. They even sell little pink bows for little girls to hunt squirrels. I signed up for the hunters education class.

I looked at some rifles and almost pulled the trigger on one (no pun intended) but decided to wait a little and get some feedback first. I was looking at these 2:

* Remington 770, centerfire, bolt action, 30-06 caliber $399
* Remington 700, centerfire, bolt action, 30-06 caliber $529

They also have a range but the guy said you can only shoot rifles up to .22 caliber. Guess I'm gonna have to find an outdoor range around these parts.
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Oh... and they had some bumper stickers that say "You might not always get the deer, but you can always drink the beer".
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Oh, I have that figured out. The place I'm planning to go has deer processing plants all over the place and people have 4 tracks to move the game out of the woods.
I guy I work with uses a huffy bicycle to ride into where he hunts, then after he cleans his deer he mounts it onto the huffy and wheels it back out that way.
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what's that?
That's the real men hunt....well....sort of real men. I guess the real men go after the bear with a pocket knife....or nail clippers or something.
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Blackpowder is a joke anymore. Few actually use blackpowder. I remember when they first allowed scopes and in-lines in Virginia and everyone threw a fit. Now they're just regular guns that take slightly longer to load.

My new goal is to take something with my .357. Haven't found a suitable victim yet.
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Blackpowder is a joke anymore. Few actually use blackpowder. I remember when they first allowed scopes and in-lines in Virginia and everyone threw a fit. Now they're just regular guns that take slightly longer to load.

My new goal is to take something with my .357. Haven't found a suitable victim yet.
I don't consider that BP.
My .45 TC Kentucky Long Rifle muzzle loader is a black powder rifle.
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