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    Do you guys go through the airport backscatter scanners?

    I'm always surprised when I go to the airport and I'm the only person I see who refuses to go through the backscatter scanners. When my wife and I traveled for Thanksgiving she thought I was crazy for preferring the patdown.

    How many of you out there refuse the scanner?

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    I would much prefer a nice dose of radiation to a cavity search from someone I just met.
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    I've been through one, once. Next time, I'll refuse and yell "HE TOUCHED ME!!!" when TSA gives me the enhanced grope, call the cops on the dude for sexual harassment.

    Or demand a cavity search and giggle while they're doing it, saying, "What, that's all you got...?"

    TSA security theater sucks.
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    I went through once, and was pretty suspicious that they were using anything that involved radiation there properly.

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    Used properly or not, you ought to be suspicious:

    http://www.npr.org/assets/news/2010/05/17/concern.pdf

    I wonder how many times you can refuse the scanner before you're flagged for the full cavity search...

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    After what I went through to safely take x-rays of people and seeing the state inspection of our x-ray unit at work, I was glad I wasn't working with/by that equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Craptain View Post
    Used properly or not, you ought to be suspicious:

    http://www.npr.org/assets/news/2010/05/17/concern.pdf

    I wonder how many times you can refuse the scanner before you're flagged for the full cavity search...
    You can always decline boarding.
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    The scan can be fun

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    I always refuse and wait around for the opt-out pat down.

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    I'm not sure I've ever been through one. Is it obvious? Is there a list of airports which us this technology? If I refuse do I get to choose who gives me a physical search? If I just show up in my underwear can I avoid the scanner and the pat down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyymc View Post
    I'm not sure I've ever been through one. Is it obvious? Is there a list of airports which us this technology? If I refuse do I get to choose who gives me a physical search? If I just show up in my underwear can I avoid the scanner and the pat down?
    You would be inviting a more thorough and penetrating pat down if you do that. And yes, the scanner would be very obvious, it resembles the orgasmatron in the Woody Allen movie, "The Sleeper"
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    Quote Originally Posted by billyymc View Post
    I'm not sure I've ever been through one. Is it obvious? Is there a list of airports which us this technology?
    Most major airports will say on their websites when the porno scanners are installed. It does not guarantee you will be asked to go through one, but if you fly through a major airport(SEATAC or PHX(Sky Harbor airport, iirc), etc, there is a higher chance than a out of the way place. My local airport has TSA manually looking through bags, and a carry on x-ray/metal detector setup, and residue tester in the security area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyymc View Post
    If I just show up in my underwear can I avoid the scanner and the pat down?
    You go in just your underwear and you'd be BEGGING for a indecent exposure arrest, I'm sure. That said, I was randomly selected for pat down last time I traveled(metal detector didn't go off, it was just my turn) and the guy that did it was not invasive. I can't say that would be the case for everyone, though.

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    meh, doesn't bother me. Personally if it can deter some crap getting on the plane I'm on and blowing it up - then do it.

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    I just eat a but load of chilly and bust ass like crazy during the pat down...F' them...They want to feel the sausage, they can smell the sauce.....
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    I opt out when I'm flying twice in one day. Otherwise, it's no more radiation than actually flying in the plane @ 30,000'.
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    I fly enough to worry about radiation as it is, I don't need the additional exposure. Throw in the concept that medical radiation devices requires all sorts of routine calibration and inspection by trained, certified individuals and the TSA machines require nothing and are operated by, well, the TSA which aren't exactly highly trained, certified individuals.
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    I don't like the idea of them. Even though I haven't flown since these have become widespread, I'd rather let TSA grope me.
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    whatever. i've got bigger fish to fry than worrying about that junk. take the scan, take the pat down, meh. just my personal set of priorities, and other people will have different feelings about it.

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    I've only flown once since 2001, and twice in my life. I've never been through, nor been asked to go through, a pornoscanner. No pat downs, either.

    I don't dislike the idea of flying, but supporting either the current airlines or the useless security theatre of the TSA are incredibly low on my list. As far as I'm concerned, both entities can take a long "****" off of a short "you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjab View Post
    I opt out when I'm flying twice in one day. Otherwise, it's no more radiation than actually flying in the plane @ 30,000'.
    Concentration, it's a *****...

    Meanwhile in Europe, they are now banned due to safety concerns. Follow the money, anyone who thinks it's about safety is gullible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
    Concentration, it's a *****...

    Meanwhile in Europe, they are now banned due to safety concerns. Follow the money, anyone who thinks it's about safety is gullible.
    Theoretically you'll absorb less radiation in the scanner/screening area than in the air, but that's assuming the equipment is properly calibrated and used as intended. And it's not like the equipment goes wacka wakca puffa puffa when you've assumed incorrectly....

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    Quote Originally Posted by no motor? View Post
    Theoretically you'll absorb less radiation in the scanner/screening area than in the air, but that's assuming the equipment is properly calibrated and used as intended. And it's not like the equipment goes wacka wakca puffa puffa when you've assumed incorrectly....
    Except all of it is concentrated on the skin, VS entire volume of the body... Good ****ing luck proving it 10-20 years down the road the skin cancer was caused by the frequent (or infrequent) trips through those things.
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    Don't forget radiation effects are cumulative. I've wondered what sort of monitoring the TSA folks have for those who stand next to the scanners 8 hours a day. I'd venture to say none. We make risk assessments every day and I just do not see any reason to trade time or convenience for more risk.
    Flying a jet is no different than riding a bicycle. It's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

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