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Old 02-11-12, 02:35 PM   #1
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1st RubenX(TM) Mechanic Adventure/Mystery of 2012 (waka waka click click click)

Yesterday morning I tried to start the Hyundai and it cranked for like a second (waka waka), but then stop cranking and made a "click click click" sound. I thought it was the battery so I took it out and got it tested... battery is good. Put battery back in and tried again. It made *one* waka, then just click click click.

"The starter must be bad" I thought. Took the starter/solenoid assembly out and got it tested at the auto-shop... starter runs just fine. Came back and installed the assembly back in, turned the key and just "click click click", no waka, let alone a single puff.

At this point I said "Oh crap, Engine must be seized/stuck" and called a mechanic to take a look. Guy comes in and says, the click comes from the solenoid so, solenoid is good. He uses a jumper cable from the battery to the Starter's "connector" and voila..."waka waka puf puf puf broom... brooom", and the car started.

I then checked the battery terminal. Looked good outside but the inside was rusted, right where the starter's cable comes in... sounds like that's it. On my way now to get a new connector. :\
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I don't understand how your battery terminal became so rusty...
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Me neither. I could swear mine's copper and lead...
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My first quess would have been bad battery and then bad wiring. The stuff they use these days is not very good.
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Me neither. I could swear mine's copper and lead...

It's a Hyundai, guys!!

Probably corroded is the correct word. But I could have told you THAT Ruben! Next time just call me, okay? Geeze.
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Yesterday morning I tried to start the Hyundai and it cranked for like a second (waka waka), but then stop cranking and made a "click click click" sound. I thought it was the battery so I took it out and got it tested... battery is good. Put battery back in and tried again. It made *one* waka, then just click click click.

"The starter must be bad" I thought. Took the starter/solenoid assembly out and got it tested at the auto-shop... starter runs just fine. Came back and installed the assembly back in, turned the key and just "click click click", no waka, let alone a single puff.

At this point I said "Oh crap, Engine must be seized/stuck" and called a mechanic to take a look. Guy comes in and says, the click comes from the solenoid so, solenoid is good. He uses a jumper cable from the battery to the Starter's "connector" and voila..."waka waka puf puf puf broom... brooom", and the car started.

I then checked the battery terminal. Looked good outside but the inside was rusted, right where the starter's cable comes in... sounds like that's it. On my way now to get a new connector. :\
Ahhhhhh, from your cars battery to the starter, I thought I read from his battery to the starter. Ignore above post.
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It's a Hyundai, guys!!

Probably corroded is the correct word. But I could have told you THAT Ruben! Next time just call me, okay? Geeze.
Incorrect Siu,not a Hyundai issue.
The Rubester lives by saltwater/ocean breezes and smart mechanics put grease /vasoline on battery cable connections,even at the block.

Time to lube things up Rubster

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There is a good chance Rube tried to drive back to PR for iguana meat and incurred some saltwater damage.
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:SMACK: for the Rube for not tracing the short with a volt/amp-meter according to the procedure in the
"Haynes Manual"he bought.
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ruben needs a steam powered car, or a horse and carriage. Would love to see what the contents of a RubenX™ waka waka puf puf thread would contain were he to have a horse and buggy.

On second thought, not sure I would LOVE it, but I would read it.
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Yeah... I know... It's step one on the Manual :\ Oh well, replaced terminal... waka waka puf puf broom... success. I change the spark plugs too, like half the noises went away... still weak and very rough when starting (even for a Hyundai). But it's running.
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On second thought, not sure I would LOVE it, but I would read it.
The horse would get shot down there,too big of a target.
A steam engine would blow up every summer in Wintergarden.
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Have you ever thought of checking out the Car Free Living forum? Just the threat might straighten up that Hyundai.
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It's all commies in there.
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Yesterday morning I tried to start the Hyundai and it cranked for like a second (waka waka), but then stop cranking and made a "click click click" sound. I thought it was the battery so I took it out and got it tested... battery is good. Put battery back in and tried again. It made *one* waka, then just click click click.
So exactly how was this battery tested? Those digital-testers at auto-parts stores are useless as they don't really apply any load to the battery. Just about as useless as testing it with a voltmeter.

The true test of a battery's power-output is total CCA or watts output under full load. This means short-circuiting the +positive to the -negative terminals with some triple-naught cabling and measuring the current-flow. It's doubtful that you have an meter that can measure +500amps, so the next best thing is to measure the voltage-drop when you're cranking the car. Need an assistant to crank the car while you monitor the battery-voltage with the voltmeter. Here are some states you want to see:

1. A full-charged battery just off the charger will be in the +14.0-14.4v range
2. A rested battery state (stabilized after +6hrs) will be in the 12.6-12.8v range
3. cranking voltage while the starter is engaged should be AT LEAST 9.5-10v for a good battery, anything less shows a worn-out battery with questionable life left.

So, charge up your battery to 14v, then let it sit for +6hrs and see what it's voltage is. Then measure voltage when your assistant engages the starter. These three pieces of data will give you a lot of information that will save you a tonne of time and headaches in running around. Also, auto batteries are ancient-tech; would be good idea to carry one of these new Lithium batteries in your glove box. Heck, the 1-lb battery I have in my motorcycle will start a V8 engine in sub-zero temps.
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Incorrect Siu,not a Hyundai issue.
The Rubester lives by saltwater/ocean breezes and smart mechanics put grease /vasoline on battery cable connections,even at the block.

Time to lube things up Rubster
I seem to hear of a LOT of Korean vehicles having wiring problems. Your advice is sound though.
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It probably got wet from being splashed on the kitchen table.
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I seem to hear of a LOT of Korean vehicles having wiring problems. Your advice is sound though.
Puertoricans are to blame on this one. The original battery terminal broke years when I was using an appropriate tool (a hammer) to take it out. I replace it with cheap one. The big starter cable (o gauge I think) comes into the terminal and bare copper wires are sandwiched in between 2 metal plates that are bolted together. Dirt collects between the wires, humidity collects on the dirt, corrosion happens.

I should have installed a proper cable connector, soldered, and then put that on the terminal... something like this:

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