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    Is there something you hate to do?

    Don't do that. problem solved.

    If you can, go into business for yourself as early as possible. if you're not going to get rich working for other people, you may as well not get rich working for yourself. Stay out of the restauraunt world, it's a short trip to a rehab clinic. Build something, make something, move something. The people who get rich in gold rushes are the people who provide things the gold miners need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamplight View Post
    So maybe if I could just keep one thing at the front of my mind I might actually accomplish something.
    BINGO! That's the key. Have a long-term goal and work towards it each day. A journey of a thousand miles may start with a single step. But it will only get you a thousand miles if your goal is a thousand miles away and you don't get distracted.

    It's a natural tendency.

    You may want to check out some of the masters of career development, Earl Nightingale, Napolean Hill and Norman Vincent Peale. Their messages are timeless.





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    I don't care if you are on a unicycle, as long as you're not using a motor to get places you get props from me. We're here to support each other. Share ideas, and motivate one another to actually keep doing it.

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    I stumbled upon my career by accident. I've been doing it for 20 years. So it goes.

    I like being my own boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Blight View Post
    you're not going to get rich working for other people
    Correct.

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    I went for the money and the women.
    There are some hot women in accounting.

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    "I'm not sure what you mean here. I certainly don't enjoy being dissatisfied with my life, and all I'm getting out of it is frustration".

    Actually, I think if we were to spend an hour speaking I would be able to show you several examples of how you are creating the dissatisfaction and frustration. I say that only because if every job you've had has quickly become unsatisfying, there is some tape in your head which says "I'm going to be unsatisfied with this job". Here's the secret, people lie to themselves. We set up a life in which we are comfortable, even if that causes us pain.

    The classic case is the abused woman who won't leave a relationship or gets into one abusive relationship after another. Is it because she just has the worst luck in the world? Nope, she keeps choosing abusive men. Not because she wants to get beat up, but because those are the tools she learned to use to make her life tolerable within the framework which she has set. Sounds crazy doesn't it? It is crazy. But until she gets some new tools to put in her toolbox, she won't "not be able to" pick any other type of relationship. And here's the kicker, if you asked her, she probably wouldn't be able to tell you why she keeps picking these men. Well the same principles work in every area of our lives, just less dramatically. If we're experiencing the same negative consequences over and over, there is something we're doing which is causing them.

    You mention you have little self confidence and if you think about being proactively positive, such as putting a picture on EBAY, you talk yourself out of it immediately. There's someplace you got a message that you have no value and that no one else thinks you have any value, that's why they wouldn't want to buy something you created. Or maybe the fear of putting yourself out there, at least emotionally speaking, and people actually not wanting something you did is too painful to try. Where did the seed of rejection come from for you? (that's rhetorical btw)

    The point I'm trying to make is the problem is whatever is deeply rooted in your soul. Until you dig that up and leave it by the side of the road my guess is you will be unsatisfied forever. It will always seem like "the next thing" might make you happy or peaceful though it will remain elusively just beyond your reach.

    Best wishes in your journey.
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    I definitely understand what you mean now, and it certainly seems plausible. I've learned enough about the human brain to realize that it often does things that are pretty strange, and without us realizing it, and we can certainly convince ourselves of something silly without even being aware that we're doing it. You read those things but don't think about the fact that, in some capacity, we're probably all doing that to ourselves at some point or another. I'm trying to recall if there was an age when I didn't have a confidence problem, but I can't be sure. In elementary school I was incredibly shy, but I was pretty confident in my drawing abilities. Middle school, perhaps? It's so hard to remember. The thing about listing a drawing for sale on ebay is that there's really no risk involved, so it seems asinine not to give it a shot. So it must be due to me telling myself that it's pointless to try, or putting it off because of something else, and never getting around to actually doing it for a million reasons. So I've got to just push myself to do it, and really, it's a simple thing so why not?

    Concerning my jobs, I think part of the reason I always end up hating them is because they've mostly been all related in some way. The drafting job was the oddball that was truly unique, and the main problems I had with that job were that, for one, I simply wasn't very good at it. There was so much to remember I would often forget a lot of things and that caused a lot of screw ups. The other problem was the fact that I just couldn't stand being stuck in an office for ten hours every day. It just about drove me crazy.

    Aside from that, the other jobs were all related in some way. I got a part-time job as a courier for a car dealership, delivering checks, titles, and other paperwork. That actually wasn't so bad but it didn't pay enough so I had to look for something else. That led to a full time courier job, which led to me growing sick of driving all the time. So I went to the tech school, learned to draft, and got the aforementioned drafting job (technically it was CNC Progamming, but the software was similar to Autocad). Sitting in an office all day led to my actually missing being out on the road (or so I thought), so I decided to get my CDL.

    I did that, went out for 24 hours over the road with another driver and it became quickly apparent that the lifestyle was not for me. I really just wanted to drive smaller straight trucks and get to come home every night. So I got a job doing that, delivering plumbing and HVAC supplies to job sites. While working for that place, the warehouse manager decided I was better at warehouse work than driving, and he said I seemed to like it better, too. And that was true. So I stopped driving and did a variety of jobs in the warehouse, which wasn't so bad really, but of course it wasn't ideal. The worst part about that job was the commute.

    So when I got the opportunity to be the warehouse manager at a small place in my town, owned by my friend's mother, I jumped at it. And it wasn't bad for the first year or so. I stayed there five years, and while I never hated it to the same degree as my drafting/office job, I grew incredibly restless working there. It didn't help that by then I had also grown to hate my town with a passion and wanted to move. So I did and that's where I am now, loving my new town but jobless and not exactly thrilled about the prospect of going back into one of my former fields. But you can see that all but one of the jobs relate to each other in some way. Driver->Driver/Warehouse->Warehouse manager. And now when I'm looking for jobs, I still look for ones in those fields, because that's where all my experience lies. I know if I got another warehouse or driving job there's a good chance I wouldn't be satisfied, but that's where I have experience and eventually I'll have to have new income to pay the bills.

    But if I can do something else before I get trapped in that cycle again, I need to try. I've been applying to a variety of jobs, if nothing else hoping maybe I'll find something I don't mind doing. They're still just menial jobs, because that's about all there are outside of highly specialized jobs which require an education and experience. But so far I'm having no luck whatsoever. I'd prefer to try something completely different, like illustration. I'm going to have to buck up and dive into it. Since I started this thread, I've been working on a drawing I'd like to try to sell. It's a bicycle, like I've done many times in the past, but for this one I'm using my Wacom tablet instead of the usual ink and paper. I can be more precise that way, I can make the drawing enormous so it can be printed in larger sizes, and when I finish it'll simply be easier to display online (ebay?) and simpler to print. And so far it's going very well, so I'm becoming hopeful.

    Sorry for the wall of text, but thanks, everyone, for the comments and suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
    Me too. I've learned that not being afraid to make a fool of myself is the best remedy. Since I have no confidence, there is nothing to lose if things go south. I just act like I have confidence. Usually things turn out for the better. Most people's standards are lower than mine I guess.
    Yup, same here. It would have made my language learning a lot easier if I had a similar attitude, too. I almost always feel better if I stop worrying about something and just go and DO it. The key (and I still struggle with this) is getting over that inertia.

    My own career so far has mostly been a case of taking the plunge on things that terrified me, but seemed like a good idea at the time. I had no journalism experience, but decided to apply for a reporter position because it seemed interesting. Four years on and things have worked out far better than I could have reasonably expected.

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    Since I started this thread, I've been working on a drawing I'd like to try to sell.

    Post it when you're done, we'd love to see it!
    Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love.

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