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pgoat 03-21-12 10:15 PM

what do you do for burned fingers?
 
I just grabbed a pan off the stove, not realizing it was red hot - got some nasty burns on my thumb and index finger.

Web MD and what not say a 1st degree, you just keep it cool. I think mine are 2nd degree - hurt a lot, and there is blistering starting. Not big bubbly blisters (yet 0 this happened about 40 mins ago) - I can still visually make out my fingerprint lines. Feels 'tight' when I flex the fingers. Running them under cool water relieves the pain instantly, but it comes back as soon as I remove my hands from the water.

Artkansas 03-21-12 10:37 PM

Icewater.

Or put your fingers directly on ice. Keep them iced for quite a while.

Then aloe vera. If you have the plant you can cut open a leaf and put it directly on.

pgoat 03-21-12 10:42 PM

thanks - i've gone from the cool water to an ice pack, wrapped in a dish cloth. the skin isn't broken so i don't think it will stick to the cloth.

would you go to an ER for this or just stay home and continue to keep them cool?

i should add it's been about an hour - pain is about the same, maybe a little less an blisters not really getting worse so far.

Allen 03-21-12 10:47 PM

Depends on the pain. When I burned the hell out of my finger as a kid I got my father to shoot it with Novocaine. Instant relief.
What I had was a 2nd degree burn; sounds like you may have the same.
If have to keep your hand in cool water to stand it, yeah, it's worth going and having it numbed up so you can get some sleep at least.

pgoat 03-21-12 11:02 PM

yeah, not happy that this happened right before i was gonna hit the sack. debating....just don't wanna cause any permanent damage by neglecting to get medical help.

jsharr 03-21-12 11:21 PM

First, sorry bro. Burns suck. I prescribe coldl water, like a bucket of ice water, bu not jsut ice. try to get the heat out. Keep up the cold water for as long as you can stand it. If you know a Dr. that will call in a pres. for you, get him or her to get you some silvadene creme or ointment.

I burned my hands badly once when a spinaker halyard went out of control and ran through them. I could smell my hands burning. There was nurse onboard and she had me do the above. I was in tears due to the pain from keeping my hands in the ice water in the beer cooler for over an hour, but the next day I was glad I did.

pgoat 03-21-12 11:30 PM

thanks J. yeah i think the water is the best right now, ice pack only helps a little. wonder if i can fall asleep with my hand in a bucket?

20grit 03-22-12 05:00 AM

White mint toothpaste.

pgoat 03-22-12 05:02 AM

well, I managed to fall asleep once the pain began to subside a little without the cold water. this am the blisters are still very sensitive to the touch but they gotten smoother/smaller and i think it looks very good considering. I should add we have an aloe vera plant and I did squeeze some juice on the areas before finally drifting off around 2:30 AM. Gonna use more of that today and maybe try taking some Vitamin E.

Thanks for the advice guys. That was scary, not knowing how bad the burn was...and painful as hell, as you no doubt know form your experiences. I recently met up with a childhood friend who is now a chief surgeon at a major hospital who specializes in traumas including severe burns. He's apparently not only exceedingly good at his job, but he told me he loves it as well...thank goodness we have people like him around, but i can't imagine the heartache that goes with that job.

pgoat 03-22-12 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 20grit (Post 14002020)
White mint toothpaste.

applied with coarse sandpaper?

GP 03-22-12 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsharr (Post 14001679)
I burned my hands badly once when a spinaker halyard went out of control and ran through them. I could smell my hands burning.

Owwwwww. That's painful just reading it.

ModoVincere 03-22-12 07:30 AM

owww......
I don't have any advice beyond what's been given.
But heal quickly.

20grit 03-22-12 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgoat (Post 14002026)
applied with coarse sandpaper?

I'm serious, it has a cooling effect. I've used it on burns most of my life with no problems. I've attributed a few burns not blistering as much to it as well. As long as the burn isn't open, it works.

jsharr 03-22-12 08:30 AM

If they are burned well enough, coat them in cold mustard and relish and wrap them in a toasted wheat bun.

Shifty 03-22-12 08:38 AM

OK, it's the day after. Didn't hurt to type these posts with burnt fingers???? Anyway, the ice water was the way to go at first, then progress to ibuprofen. Today apply Aloe Vera gel liberally every few hours and bandage them if you can.

pgoat 03-22-12 08:55 AM

thanks all. well, it's a little painful still but nothing like last night. The blisters are a bit puffier now, but that may be b/c I rode in to work with fingerless gloves (yeah, i'm an idiot). Gonna go get some band-aids now.

The main things that were scaring me is that all the web sources say blistering indicates a second degree burn, which can be treated at home as a minor burn, unless it's on the hands or other specific areas...also some say 2nd degree burns can continue to develop into 3rd degree burns.

Otoh (no pun intended) some also say no cold water for 2nd degree burns, and it felt like that really helped me last night.

Of course I am mainly concerned because I pay the guitar and am hoping this won't cause permanent damage down the line (no Django jokes, pls). And I have a big jam coming up in10 days or so, they say a minor 2nd degree burn tales about 3 weeks to heal.

being there are blisters and it's on my hand, should I go to the ER?

pgoat 03-22-12 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 20grit (Post 14002473)
I'm serious, it has a cooling effect. I've used it on burns most of my life with no problems. I've attributed a few burns not blistering as much to it as well. As long as the burn isn't open, it works.

wow! I thought you were just giving me a foo answer...well, I believe you but I admit I am afraid to try that...where did you ever hear of doing this to begin with?

pgoat 03-22-12 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsharr (Post 14002576)
If they are burned well enough, coat them in cold mustard and relish and wrap them in a toasted wheat bun.

wow! I thought you were just giving me a foo answer...well, I believe you but I admit I am afraid to try that...where did you ever hear of doing this to begin with?

CbadRider 03-22-12 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pgoat (Post 14002690)
thanks all. well, it's a little painful still but nothing like last night. The blisters are a bit puffier now, but that may be b/c I rode in to work with fingerless gloves (yeah, i'm an idiot). Gonna go get some band-aids now.

The main things that were scaring me is that all the web sources say blistering indicates a second degree burn, which can be treated at home as a minor burn, unless it's on the hands or other specific areas...also some say 2nd degree burns can continue to develop into 3rd degree burns.

Otoh (no pun intended) some also say no cold water for 2nd degree burns, and it felt like that really helped me last night.

Of course I am mainly concerned because I pay the guitar and am hoping this won't cause permanent damage down the line (no Django jokes, pls). And I have a big jam coming up in10 days or so, they say a minor 2nd degree burn tales about 3 weeks to heal.

being there are blisters and it's on my hand, should I go to the ER?

I don't think you need to go to the ER for blisters. Does your health insurance have a "nurse hotline" where you can call and ask questions?

This is from the Cigna website:

Home Treatment for Second-Degree Burns

Topic Overview
For many second-degree burns, home treatment is all that is needed for healing and to prevent other problems.
Rinse the burn
  • Rinse burned skin with cool water until the pain stops. Rinsing will usually stop the pain in 15 to 30 minutes. The cool water lowers the skin temperature and stops the burn from becoming more serious. You may:
    • Place arms, hands, fingers, legs, feet, or toes in a basin of cool water.
    • Apply cool compresses to burns on the face or body.
  • Do not use ice or ice water, which can cause tissue damage.
  • Take off any jewelry, rings, or clothing that could be in the way or that would become too tight if the skin swells.
Clean the burn
  • Wash your hands before cleaning a burn. Do not touch the burn with your hands or anything dirty, because open blisters can easily be infected.
  • Do not break the blisters.
  • Clean the burn area with mild soap and water. Some of the burned skin might come off with washing. Pat the area dry with a clean cloth or gauze.
  • Put on an antibiotic ointment. Ointments such as Bacitracin or Polysporin can be used. Do not put sprays or butter on burns, because this traps the heat inside the burn.
Bandaging the burn
  • If the burned skin or blisters have not broken open, a bandage may not be needed. If the burned skin or unbroken blisters are likely to become dirty or be irritated by clothing, apply a bandage.
  • If the burned skin or blisters have broken open, a bandage is needed. To further help prevent infection, apply a clean bandage whenever your bandage gets wet or soiled. If a bandage is stuck to a burn, soak it in warm water to make the bandage easier to remove. If available, use a nonstick dressing. There are many bandage products available. Be sure to read the product label for correct use.
  • Wrap the burn loosely to avoid putting pressure on the burned skin.
  • Do not tape a bandage so that it circles a hand, arm, or leg. This can cause swelling.
There are many nonprescription burn dressings available. Be sure to follow the instructions included in the package.

jsharr 03-22-12 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgoat (Post 14002690)
thanks all. well, it's a little painful still but nothing like last night. The blisters are a bit puffier now, but that may be b/c I rode in to work with fingerless gloves (yeah, i'm an idiot). Gonna go get some band-aids now.

The main things that were scaring me is that all the web sources say blistering indicates a second degree burn, which can be treated at home as a minor burn, unless it's on the hands or other specific areas...also some say 2nd degree burns can continue to develop into 3rd degree burns.

Otoh (no pun intended) some also say no cold water for 2nd degree burns, and it felt like that really helped me last night.

Of course I am mainly concerned because I pay the guitar and am hoping this won't cause permanent damage down the line (no Django jokes, pls). And I have a big jam coming up in10 days or so, they say a minor 2nd degree burn tales about 3 weeks to heal.

being there are blisters and it's on my hand, should I go to the ER?

I would keep them covered and wait it out. If the blisters are not open, it is your body working to heal itself. If they break, that is time to get proactive, keep em clean, etc.

Do you have a family phys you can call? What about your Dr. friend mentioned above? ER might be overkill. Is there a PrimaCare or other "drop in" style facility near you? May even stop by a fire station and see if a paramedic or EMT could give you advice. We did this recently with one of our sons who had cut his hand. Saved us a trip to the ER.

jsharr 03-22-12 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgoat (Post 14002706)
wow! I thought you were just giving me a foo answer...well, I believe you but I admit I am afraid to try that...where did you ever hear of doing this to begin with?

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20grit 03-22-12 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgoat (Post 14002701)
wow! I thought you were just giving me a foo answer...well, I believe you but I admit I am afraid to try that...where did you ever hear of doing this to begin with?

I'm sure someone old told me.

pgoat 03-22-12 09:27 AM

thanks guys, foo love is helping me through this. I went ahead and got an appt. with my primary phys this afternoon just to be safe.

also made a zombie appt. to get my jetski re-sinewed. they had a spring special, only $24.

jsharr 03-22-12 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgoat (Post 14002848)
thanks guys, foo love is helping me through this. I went ahead and got an appt. with my primary phys this afternoon just to be safe.

also made a zombie appt. to get my jetski re-sinewed. they had a spring special, only $24.

If you can find any REALLY old original NYC residents, think pre New Amsterdam, they will often work for beads and hair combs.

pgoat 03-22-12 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsharr (Post 14002863)
If you can find any REALLY old original NYC residents, think pre New Amsterdam, they will often give you minty homemade toothpaste burn cures.

blistered it for you


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