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fishymamba 03-21-12 11:32 PM

For the computer "nerds"
 
Hey guys! I am thinking of upgrading the graphics car in my computer soon and just want some advice. Currently I am running the extremely low end Nvidia GeForce 310, so pretty much anything would be better than this.

I am trying to decided between these three:

Nvidia GTS 240
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A3RCB7N5A6MA1J

Nvidia GT 520
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...o_cart_title_1

Nvidia GT 430
http://www.amazon.com/Evga-GeForce-E.../ref=pd_cp_e_0

And finally the Nvidia GTS 450
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...o_cart_title_3

My question is: Is the GTS 450 worth the extra cash? It's over double the price of the other two. I am not a heavy gamer, but I do play Left 4 Dead or SimCity once in a while, and with my current card both games lag horribly unless I use the lowest video settings possible. I can get the GTS 450 $20-30 cheaper on ebay, should I do that instead? Thanks!

BTW I am running a Intel i7 860 and 8 gb of memory, so I am pretty sure that the graphics card is holding everything back.

jsharr 03-21-12 11:38 PM

Here is the 450 for $99 from Newegg?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500224

fishymamba 03-21-12 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jsharr (Post 14001723)
Here is the 450 for $99 from Newegg?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500224

The Amazon one has a mail in rebate offer which knocks $20 off the price.

I don't understand all these different GTS 450s, here is one I saw on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-Tec...#ht_500wt_1413

Why do they all look different and have different specs?

fishymamba 03-21-12 11:59 PM

Just saw this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-GTS450...ht_8642wt_1396

Going to bid on it.

StupidlyBrave 03-22-12 05:52 AM

No love for ATI? http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ew,3107-3.html

20grit 03-22-12 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by StupidlyBrave (Post 14002089)

My experience with ATI was pretty much ruined by a lack of driver updates. They just stopped after about 8 months. Since switching to Nvidia, I've had problems with driver stopped working errors, but at least they keep making new ones and fixing the previous ones.

fishymamba 03-22-12 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StupidlyBrave (Post 14002089)

I want to stick with Nvidia, I found a GTS 450 on craigslist for $65, sound like a good deal to me.

fishymamba 03-22-12 08:58 PM

The ones on craigslist that I saw for cheap are all sold :(

bjtesch 03-22-12 09:45 PM

This is the best information I can give you:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...view,3107.html

Wordbiker 03-22-12 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishymamba (Post 14005729)
The ones on craigslist that I saw for cheap are all sold :(

I wouldn't buy a GPU on eBay or CL for one reason: warranty.

RubenX 03-22-12 10:36 PM

I'm on the ATI camp but yeah, you have plenty of system and ram. Lack of video card is what's holding you back.

x136 03-23-12 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wordbiker (Post 14005917)
I wouldn't buy a GPU on eBay or CL for one reason: warranty.

Nor I, different reason: eBayers and craigslisters. *shudder*

fishymamba 03-23-12 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wordbiker (Post 14005917)
I wouldn't buy a GPU on eBay or CL for one reason: warranty.

True...I put a offer on a card on ebay, if it does not get accepted, I'm just going to order it from amazon.

StupidlyBrave 03-23-12 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 20grit (Post 14002156)
My experience with ATI was pretty much ruined by a lack of driver updates. They just stopped after about 8 months. Since switching to Nvidia, I've had problems with driver stopped working errors, but at least they keep making new ones and fixing the previous ones.

I have had the exact opposite experience. But in neither case did the driver "stop working". My last nVidia update involved tricking the driver installation that my card was supported by the driver. But my latest purchasing decision was based entirely on price/performance, so I got a Radeon HD 6870.

Greg_R 03-23-12 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishymamba (Post 14001708)
Hey guys! I am thinking of upgrading the graphics car in my computer soon and just want some advice. Currently I am running the extremely low end Nvidia GeForce 310, so pretty much anything would be better than this.

I am trying to decided between these three:

Nvidia GTS 240
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A3RCB7N5A6MA1J

Nvidia GT 520
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...o_cart_title_1

Nvidia GT 430
http://www.amazon.com/Evga-GeForce-E.../ref=pd_cp_e_0

And finally the Nvidia GTS 450
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...o_cart_title_3

My question is: Is the GTS 450 worth the extra cash? It's over double the price of the other two. I am not a heavy gamer, but I do play Left 4 Dead or SimCity once in a while, and with my current card both games lag horribly unless I use the lowest video settings possible. I can get the GTS 450 $20-30 cheaper on ebay, should I do that instead? Thanks!

BTW I am running a Intel i7 860 and 8 gb of memory, so I am pretty sure that the graphics card is holding everything back.

I'm surprised that those games are lagging... the system requirements are pretty basic. Are you sure that other processes aren't screwing things up? Here's a very recent review of graphics cards by price point: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...view,3107.html

Also, Intel's Sandy Bridge and later processors are making the cheap (<$150) graphics cards obsolete. It may make sense to get a cheaper stop-gap solution for now and then upgrade the processor/board in a year or two.

AEO 03-23-12 04:24 PM

you should be able to buy a HD5770 or HD6770 (same hardware, different model number) for $60~80 and they are better than the ones listed up. They perform around the same as a 550 GT.... S or X....

quite frankly, nvidia model numbers are confusing to me.

fishymamba 03-23-12 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AEO (Post 14008966)
you should be able to buy a HD5770 or HD6770 (same hardware, different model number) for $60~80 and they are better than the ones listed up. They perform around the same as a 550 GT.... S or X....

quite frankly, nvidia model numbers are confusing to me.

The HD5770 is more expensive: http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeo...2542749&sr=8-4

What about the 6670? http://www.amazon.com/EAH6670-DIS-1G...2542600&sr=1-6

How does it compare with the GTS 450?

waynesworld 03-24-12 09:48 AM

I don't know much about graphics cars (:geek:), but I'm sure any of them would look great with mag wheels :roflmao2:

AEO 03-24-12 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishymamba (Post 14009020)
The HD5770 is more expensive: http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeo...2542749&sr=8-4

What about the 6670? http://www.amazon.com/EAH6670-DIS-1G...2542600&sr=1-6

How does it compare with the GTS 450?

You're not buying from the proper locations. $130 for. Hd5770 is a total ripoff. Try newegg or ncix.

mikeybikes 03-24-12 11:57 AM

While we're on the topic of video cards... what's a decent, inexpensive four monitor video card? Needs to be low profile. Don't care about the graphics power as its for work.

AEO 03-24-12 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeybikes (Post 14011336)
While we're on the topic of video cards... what's a decent, inexpensive four monitor video card? Needs to be low profile. Don't care about the graphics power as its for work.

you'd be looking at something like a $300+ matrox, AMD fire or nvidia quattro card for a single card solution.

Much cheaper if your motherboard can handle 2x AMD videocards, because they support output on all ports through hydravision/hydragrid.

mechBgon 03-24-12 03:53 PM

For fishymamba, I'd suggest a GTX460 with 1GB of memory and the 256-bit memory bus (I see some with 192-bit busses, here, let me strangle you to illustrate why that matters). It would have about 80% higher performance than the GTS 450 for another $35ish. That card does require:

1. some room

2. some system ventilation

3. a power supply that has two 6-pin PCI-Express power connectors, and that won't essplode with a GTX460 connected to it. Think: respectable-quality 450W PSU.


If your system is an off-the-shelf pre-built, it may be lacking one or more of the above criteria.

bjtesch 03-24-12 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AEO (Post 14011895)
you'd be looking at something like a $300+ matrox, AMD fire or nvidia quattro card for a single card solution.

Much cheaper if your motherboard can handle 2x AMD videocards, because they support output on all ports through hydravision/hydragrid.

I thought this is what AMD Eyefinity was for.

http://www.amd.com/US/PRODUCTS/TECHN...eyefinity.aspx

bjtesch 03-24-12 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mechBgon (Post 14011908)
For fishymambadoes require:

1. some room

2. some system ventilation

3. a power supply that has two 6-pin PCI-Express power connectors, and that won't essplode with a GTX460 connected to it. Think: respectable-quality 450W PSU.


If your system is an off-the-shelf pre-built, it may be lacking one or more of the above criteria.

Good points- the higher power video cards are pretty big, specifically pretty long, and they do have more power requirements than lesser cards.

mechBgon 03-24-12 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AEO (Post 14011895)
you'd be looking at something like a $300+ matrox, AMD fire or nvidia quattro card for a single card solution.

Much cheaper if your motherboard can handle 2x AMD videocards, because they support output on all ports through hydravision/hydragrid.

For business use, I'd put the up-front cost way down the priority list, though. It's a productivity tool, it could pay for itself muy rapido.

fishymamba, what resolution do you use for gaming, by the way? I was OK with a single GTX460 (1GB 256-bit) at 1680 x 1050, but when I got a 1920 x 1080 monitor, it just couldn't keep up on games like Crysis 2 at maximum eye candy anymore. I then bought a second GTX460 and set them up in SLI.

By the way, here's a direct comparison between the GTS450 and the GTX460 1GB 256-bit: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Produ...32.233.234.235


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