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    Shimano is like Microsoft...

    Like the title says, they show some similarities

    control like 80-90% of the market
    make there stuff incompatible with other brands
    very few alternatives
    want to rule the world

    Just my thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XzEn54321
    Like the title says, they show some similarities

    control like 80-90% of the market
    make there stuff incompatible with other brands
    very few alternatives
    want to rule the world

    Just my thoughts.

    ~X-Zen~
    You just now noticed this?

    VIVE LA RESISTANCE! VIVE LE SRAM! VIVE LE CAMPY!

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    No kidding.......The advent of STI and all this "total integration" bull**** was the ploy that shimano used to eliminate suntour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XzEn54321
    Like the title says, they show some similarities

    control like 80-90% of the market
    make there stuff incompatible with other brands
    very few alternatives
    want to rule the world

    Just my thoughts.

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    Sounds like it's time for you to go out and build a new derailleur. Or, better still, an operating system.

    Sorry, with tricks like this who needs treats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway
    No kidding.......The advent of STI and all this "total integration" bull**** was the ploy that shimano used to eliminate suntour.
    So you're a Campy man? Apple versus banana?

    You know, most of what we see now was invented and tried back in the early 20th century. There's not much new on bikes.

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    Yeah but unlike Microsoft, Shimano's never crashed on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway
    No kidding.......The advent of STI and all this "total integration" bull**** was the ploy that shimano used to eliminate suntour.
    The Suntour folks would have done the same to the Shimano folks if possible. They just weren't good/smart enough.

    Business is not about what's good for the consumer; it's not about morals; it's 100% about "increasing shareholder value". All else is a DISTANT second. It's the unfortunate job of governement to pass, and enforce laws to ensure that the consumer doesn't get screwed too badly in the process. I say "unfortunate" becasue they do such a poor job @ it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    Yeah but unlike Microsoft, Shimano's never crashed on me.
    You Never had your STI shifter blue screen on ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan
    So you're a Campy man? Apple versus banana?
    you mean Apple versus Microsoft... pay attention


    PS: Too late to nominate this the dumbest thread of the year?

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    yes watch out - the next thing we will have to ring up to ask permission to install our derailleurs on a different bike

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    There is on difference.

    Shimano doesn't ask its customer what it needs for a product, it force feeds it own market with its product
    Microsoft does what consumers wants, but eats its competition for breakfast at any given turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom
    Microsoft does what consumers wants
    They do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom
    Microsoft does what consumers wants

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

    In direct contradiction of this quote, I present:



    Many Office '97, 2000, etc users told Microsoft that they hate Clippy. In response, MS kept the little bastard in Office XP.

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    They do...I am talking corporate here no normal consumer...sorry if you disagree but they offer some sweet integrated packages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrmyorick
    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

    In direct contradiction of this quote, I present:



    Many Office '97, 2000, etc users told Microsoft that they hate Clippy. In response, MS kept the little bastard in Office XP.
    Whats the pic supposed to be it doesn't show up?

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    Ahah...got it...

    Yeah..clippy blows serious chunks...but it doesn't actually hinder the product like say, sti shifters on a freeride bike.

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    I miss my 1990 Bianchi Grizzly. It worked beautifully. It was a full SunTour XC Pro setup with one minor exception: the rear cassette was Shimano. It was the best shifting bike I've ever owned. The only reason I don't have it any more is because I bought a Catamount MFS and sold the Grizzly to my younger brother. I hope he still has it.
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    SRAM is like macintosh i suppose. I think SRAM is catching up. The make just about everything and they are all very good products for a low price.
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    Campy is like Macintosh (Apple)... controls a small share of the market, higher quality and works better and has a slightly different interface (thumb shifters)...

    Shimano is like Microsucks... everyone uses them, it works, and is what everyone has grown up with.

    SRAM --- is like linux, specility community, cheep, low cost etc...
    Just your average club rider... :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by my58vw
    Campy is like Macintosh (Apple)... controls a small share of the market, higher quality and works better and has a slightly different interface (thumb shifters)...
    You forgot to mention "and only focuses on one group of the biking community while ignoring the rest"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtbike
    SRAM is like macintosh i suppose. I think SRAM is catching up. The make just about everything and they are all very good products for a low price.
    I agree. I went with sram x9 on my recumbent. the shimano setup sucked. well it was really low end. but it was too spendy to go to shimano and the 1 to 1 cable pull on the sram is great. my shifting is smoother tehn my road bike with DA

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    I'd like to think of camy as unix.
    SRAM as the cheaper linux.
    Shimano as Microsoft.
    And apple gets left out.

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    So, are my downtube shifters like MS DOS?

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    If they are friction shifters maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveknight
    I agree. I went with sram x9 on my recumbent. the shimano setup sucked. well it was really low end. but it was too spendy to go to shimano and the 1 to 1 cable pull on the sram is great. my shifting is smoother tehn my road bike with DA
    X-9 Shifters, Derailluer, PC99 Hollow Pin Chain, PG990 Cassette, Avid SD 7 brake levers is my next upgrade. notice how its all sram?
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