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    wifes car is kaput - Audi A6 Quattro to replace hers?

    Anyone own or can review what an Audi A6 Quattro is like? It's an older car, 2002. 140,000 miles on it... but darn if I find a used car with less than 100,000 miles on it anymore for the price range we're looking at, they just don't exist around my neck of the woods. The A6 is the 4.2 model. In good shape, the guy says the clear coat is coming off in some spots, but there is a lifetime warranty on the paint (wonder if that warranty would go from him to me if I end up buying it). He's getting rid of it because it's a gas guzzler and takes 90 octane fuel.

    I'm curious about the maintenance costs associated... if anyone can chime in, I'm all ears. The all wheel drive is a plus for me. Gas mileage doesn't matter too much, because I bike commute to work as often as I can. Wife will be using our Accord to go to work, while this one would be a backup for when she's got the Honda, and I'm home (she works 3rd shift once a week, and having a car around is necessary in case of an emergency). If anyone has a high mileage, "old" Audi, I'd like to hear about it, especially if it's the model as mentioned above!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevmk81 View Post
    Anyone own or can review what an Audi A6 Quattro is like? It's an older car, 2002. 140,000 miles on it... but darn if I find a used car with less than 100,000 miles on it anymore for the price range we're looking at, they just don't exist around my neck of the woods. The A6 is the 4.2 model. In good shape, the guy says the clear coat is coming off in some spots, but there is a lifetime warranty on the paint (wonder if that warranty would go from him to me if I end up buying it). He's getting rid of it because it's a gas guzzler and takes 90 octane fuel.

    I'm curious about the maintenance costs associated... if anyone can chime in, I'm all ears. The all wheel drive is a plus for me. Gas mileage doesn't matter too much, because I bike commute to work as often as I can. Wife will be using our Accord to go to work, while this one would be a backup for when she's got the Honda, and I'm home (she works 3rd shift once a week, and having a car around is necessary in case of an emergency). If anyone has a high mileage, "old" Audi, I'd like to hear about it, especially if it's the model as mentioned above!!!

    Thanks Foo!
    Do NOT do it!!!!! I own a 2003 Audi Allroad (which is basically an A6) with around 110,000 miles on it. While it drives great when there are no problems and it's beautiful on the outside/inside...the cost of maintainence and issues when they occur (and they will occur) is crazy expensive. Plus factor in the cost of gas and they do take premium and get sh*tty gas mileage. I think my average now is 18.8 compared to my Mazda 3 which gets 34.

    A guy that I work with has a '02 A6, really pretty, but he is looking to dump it for a chrysler 300, if that tells you anything.
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    For 20 years at my shop I specialized in repairing German cars, mostly VW and Audi.

    I now drive a Toyota.
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    Agreed. They're awesome cars and everyone I know that has had one loves it, but if you're used to honda maintenance prices, audi will make you cry. Even an oil change, if you don't do it yourself, will cost you about $100. That goes with any european car pretty much.

    What specifically are you looking for in a car? I'm no mechanic, but I know my way around a car and research them pretty heavily in my pursuit to be all knowledgeable... so I could probably make some decent suggestions.

    If you are set on an awd sedan, I'd probably try and find a subaru.

    Mango steer that guy away from the 300! I've known a couple people with them, and they start to completely fall apart after a few years. Not cheap to maintain either since they have a decent amount of benz parts.

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    Ditto all of this unless you like to work on stuff yourself. Subaru Outback, Forester, or newer Legacy would fit for AWD and much more reliable.

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    I recall older audis having very poor crash safety ratings.
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    Dang, I was hoping for a good review. Thanks a bunch for the feedback, you all might have swayed me away from getting this car.

    Well, basically this is what I'm thinking:

    I don't want to spend more than 6-7 thousand.

    The car won't be used much, only as an emergency vehicle for when whoever is home without the car and really needs to use one. (I'm away during the weekends at bike races or out of town with family, and my wife works Sat nights, and we can't car pool during the days I do drive to work). Her previous 2 cars were pieces o' crapola... both American made 4 cylinder cars, even though they were small cars, still sucked at gas mileage, and were horribly unfun to drive. We want a "real" car now, one that will last YEARS, like my Honda. That car has lasted for 125,000 miles, and still runs like the first day I bought it, the thing purs like a kitten, and is fun to drive (2003 Accord Coupe - 6 cylinder)!! I want a car that doesn't have much more than 130 to 140 thousand miles (as I understand, most *quality* cars in my price range will be around that mileage range). I'm a car enthusiast (really don't have the money to be one), so enjoy a sporty ride, but we're going to try to have kidos soon, so we're looking at 4 doors instead of 2. Don't want SUV's, trucks or vans. All wheel drive isn't really necessary. Good safety ratings are a plus. When I'm perusing the used cars online, I usually look for Honda, Toyota (not so much want a Toyota lately), Acura, Infiniti, Nissan, Audi, Subaru, Volvo. I'd include BMW and Mercedes, but I doubt I'll find a car with low enough mileage for me to go that route, maybe even include a few of the other brands I've mentioned. I won't touch Chevy, Ford, definitely not Dodge vehicles (no offense to those that own one). The only way I'd buy one of those if it were brand new, or 2008+ newer model. I've owned a '92 ford, sucked, '99 eclipse, sucked, I could go on but I won't.

    It'd be cool to get something like an electric car, but I don't know much about those, and I'm guessing they're difficult to come by for 6-7 grand. I was hoping the Audi would fit the bill, but if it's too expensive to maintain, I might just remove Audi from the list of brands I look at, and possibly some other brands as well :-( I hate car shopping.

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    I have a '97 A6 quattro wagon (2.8L v-6) with 150k miles. It is a joy to drive, but that joy is nullified by the fear of what will break next. Fails are not often, but when they go, parts are expensive like NOS Campy Super Record.
    I keep it only because it works great for road trips (with bikes on the roof), I am reasonably competent as a mechanic, and I'm too cheap/lazy to make the transition to a different (better?) car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    I have a '97 A6 quattro wagon (2.8L v-6) with 150k miles. It is a joy to drive, but that joy is nullified by the fear of what will break next. Fails are not often, but when they go, parts are expensive like NOS Campy Super Record.
    I keep it only because it works great for road trips (with bikes on the roof), I am reasonably competent as a mechanic, and I'm too cheap/lazy to make the transition to a different (better?) car.
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    Oooh, found another one I like. Anyone have input on whether or not a Lexus IS 300 would be any good? A little above my price range, but I think it'd be worth it. 12x,xxx miles on it. Lexus a pain for pricey service as well?

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    My family has had several lexus', not a big fan. To be honest there's too many reasons to list for why I don't like them, but the positive things I would have to say would be quiet interior,(despite being cheap feeling,) safe, and they usually ride nice,( but that isn't the case with the IS). They are fairly expensive to maintain, but not as much as an audio or newer benz, bmw, or volvo. In most cases they will be more reliable than similar model years of those cars though.

    I'm biased because I have one, but if you're looking to get into the luxury sedan game on a budget, look into 80's benz's. You can't go wrong with a 123, 124, or 126 chassis as long as it passes an inspection and you learn the few things to look out for. I freaking love mine, frankly I'm obsessed. It cost me under 3 grand, is safe as hell, and there's nothing to go wrong except for the little quirks which are easily avoidable. I've had mine for a year and driven it HARD, and the only thing to go wrong was a fried alternator because I'm a blind idiot and hooked up my battery backwards. Plus, they're great cars to get into working on cars since they're fairly straightforward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenzFanatic View Post
    My family has had several lexus', not a big fan. To be honest there's too many reasons to list for why I don't like them, but the positive things I would have to say would be quiet interior,(despite being cheap feeling,) safe, and they usually ride nice,( but that isn't the case with the IS). They are fairly expensive to maintain, but not as much as an audio or newer benz, bmw, or volvo. In most cases they will be more reliable than similar model years of those cars though.

    I'm biased because I have one, but if you're looking to get into the luxury sedan game on a budget, look into 80's benz's. You can't go wrong with a 123, 124, or 126 chassis as long as it passes an inspection and you learn the few things to look out for. I freaking love mine, frankly I'm obsessed. It cost me under 3 grand, is safe as hell, and there's nothing to go wrong except for the little quirks which are easily avoidable. I've had mine for a year and driven it HARD, and the only thing to go wrong was a fried alternator because I'm a blind idiot and hooked up my battery backwards. Plus, they're great cars to get into working on cars since they're fairly straightforward.
    LOVIN' the feedback!! Ok... so now I'm wondering, I'm seeing a BMW 530i, just in my price range, with 97,xxx miles. I'm surprised I'm finding some of these. It's older though, 2001. Very tempted to check it out.

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    They're nice, but again, very expensive to maintain, and kind of a lot to go wrong. I had a friend with a '98 7 series and it made him get completely out of euro cars. He drives a boring civic now.

    I've heard the late 90's early 2000's bmw's have a propensity for electrical problems too... which would make sense seeing as in the mid to late 90's bmw and benz started shoving as much electronics as they possibly could into their cars. I like them enough though that I might buy one if it checked out with a thorough inspection at an independent german shop.

    You also have to keep in mind that I'm Dutch though, so spending money isn't exactly my favorite thing to do... so I may be a little tough on maintenance costs. I've been extremely lucky in the aspect that all of my cars have required virtually nothing but oil changes.

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    Infiniti of the years you've been looking in have done pretty well.

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    If I were to buy a German car again it would definitely only be a BMW. Yes they are expensive to fix, but they generally do not break down or wear out odd parts like a VW or Audi will. During my career I saw VW and Audi parts fail that I had never seen fail on any Toyota, Honda or BMW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snydermann View Post
    If I were to buy a German car again it would definitely only be a BMW. Yes they are expensive to fix, but they generally do not break down or wear out odd parts like a VW or Audi will. During my career I saw VW and Audi parts fail that I had never seen fail on any Toyota, Honda or BMW.
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    I LOVED my BMW. But I really would not consider a used one over 100K, unless you are very handy with DIY maintenance and repair; or you have a lot of money for service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenzFanatic View Post
    You also have to keep in mind that I'm Dutch though, so spending money isn't exactly my favorite thing to do... .
    You should avoid expensive status-symbol vehicles like BMW and Audi. Go find a nice used Subaru (if you want AWD), Toyota, or Honda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_R View Post
    You should avoid expensive status-symbol vehicles like BMW and Audi. Go find a nice used Subaru (if you want AWD), Toyota, or Honda.
    That is obvious if you're really cheap...I'm not the one looking for a car though... but being a benz owner, albeit a 28 year old one, I do resent those types of cars being called status symbols; because while they are that for many, maybe even most, anybody that truly appreciates the art that is automobiles can recognize that these types of cars are usually simply better than the rest. The value in those types of cars, for me, comes from the beauty, character, and individuality... not to mention superior build quality, at least in the era that I prefer.

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    I ended up getting a 2006 Saab 9-3 2.0T

    Only has 34,000 miles on it! Pretty happy with that. Hoping nothing much goes wrong with it. I do need to fix the radio though, the amp is blown, but was able to use that to help get the car for cheaper.

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    wouldn't own a German car, of any maker, without a warranty, period.

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