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Old 06-18-12, 09:58 PM   #1
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I love when some one is smoking by the bike rack

Its is so nice to get there and a bit out of breath and i get to breath in some cig smoke.
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Old 06-18-12, 10:31 PM   #2
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There is a certain Safeway on my way to work where this ALWAYS ALWAYS someone puffing away at the picnic table next to the bike rack when I get there... which is why I shop somewhere else most of the time.
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you guys must lead pretty boring lives to remember people you dont even know that smoked a cigarette lol
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My mom died of lung cancer. I hate cigarettes .
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you guys must lead pretty boring lives to remember people you dont even know that smoked a cigarette lol
It's the Stinky Safeway on my way to work. There is always some random disgruntled employee out there by the bike rack smoking. It's never the same person.

... and yeah, I do lead a pretty boring life.
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You breath more smoke when you ride behind a big SUV. Now HTFU.
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You breath more smoke when you ride behind a big SUV. Now HTFU.
Good call Ruben. I quit on the 1st of July. But in the meantime, if I can piss off some bikers, I'm gonna do it.
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Same as going for a hike and finding cigarettes all over the path....reallllllllllllllll nice.
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Same as going for a hike and finding cigarettes all over the path....reallllllllllllllll nice.
So people who smoke can't exercise and enjoy the outdoors?
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So people who smoke can't exercise and enjoy the outdoors?
The litterbugs should just stay home.
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So people who smoke can't exercise and enjoy the outdoors?
I don't care if they do, but why smoke while doing it? Smoke before or after.
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I don't care if they do, but why smoke while doing it? Smoke before or after.
Okay, so you would rather them be at the trail head smoking around your vehicle. I can do that too, if it makes you happy.
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Okay, so you would rather them be at the trail head smoking around your vehicle. I can do that too, if it makes you happy.
As a former smoker, I can say for sure that there is almost no point to smoking AND exercising. Would you smoke while jogging?

And for littering, that's the main problem. Bic sells portable ashtrays, I don't get why people don't use them. Cigarettes aren't biodegradable, they won't go away.

I understand why people used to smoke (ignorance of the consequences) and why people smoke when they are young (invincibility complex) but I am baffled, constantly, by educated adults who smoke. Especially athletes.

Maybe you can shed some light on this, since you seem to educated, an adult and a smoker.
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As a former smoker, I can say for sure that there is almost no point to smoking AND exercising. Would you smoke while jogging?

And for littering, that's the main problem. Bic sells portable ashtrays, I don't get why people don't use them. Cigarettes aren't biodegradable, they won't go away.

I understand why people used to smoke (ignorance of the consequences) and why people smoke when they are young (invincibility complex) but I am baffled, constantly, by educated adults who smoke. Especially athletes.

Maybe you can shed some light on this, since you seem to educated, an adult and a smoker.
I smoke while bike riding. Why do people smoke, because it is F'ing addictive as hell and hard to quit. I started after blowing out my knee, overcoming an addiction to pain killers and deep depression that had me headed toward being an alcoholic that would've ruined my college and future.

There are lots of things people do that aren't good for them, but it is their choice and it is not illegal, so f'ing deal with it. I got so sick of people hollier than thou attitude with regard to smoking, yet most of them drink and do lots of other things that aren't good for them.
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I don't care if they do, but why smoke while doing it? Smoke before or after.
Hence, the bikerack
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Littering, in most cases I can think of,is illegal. And it's never cool.
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Littering, in most cases I can think of,is illegal. And it's never cool.
I see far more energy bar wrappers and even disgarded water bottles on the trails than anything else, maybe we should ban bikers from them.
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I smoke while bike riding. Why do people smoke, because it is F'ing addictive as hell and hard to quit. I started after blowing out my knee, overcoming an addiction to pain killers and deep depression that had me headed toward being an alcoholic that would've ruined my college and future.

There are lots of things people do that aren't good for them, but it is their choice and it is not illegal, so f'ing deal with it. I got so sick of people hollier than thou attitude with regard to smoking, yet most of them drink and do lots of other things that aren't good for them.
That is fair enough. A person's decision to knowingly participate in activities that are chronically bad and will lead to death is a personal decision, and frankly its all well and good if that is your choice. As you do not appreciate the holier than thou sentiment, martyrdom is overrated. A person's choice to drink, or do drugs or participate in any other harmful activity is a personal decision, as I said before, but it stands out to me that smoking cigarettes is the only activity of such that exposes unwilling individuals to your personal decision and its consequences. The people parking their bikes didn't ask to participate in smoking, the people following you on the trail didn't ask to be caught in a headwind of arsenic and tar. Their personal choice was to be in open air.

Just because it is the lesser evil doesn't make it not evil.
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When I smoked (real cigarettes), I never had a problem dropping non-smokers on a daily basis. I could had been faster if I haven't been smoking. But they could have been faster if they haven't been eating french fries. Besides, when you ride 30 or 40 miles daily (as I used to to back then), there's isn't much out there that can beat you.

There's a lot of misconceptions about smoking and nicotine in general. Trust me, I'm the nicotine freaking alchemist.

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I see far more energy bar wrappers and even disgarded water bottles on the trails than anything else, maybe we should ban bikers from them.
Maybe because the objects are bigger and more highly visible than a cig but....I highly doubt if you went around and picked up all the cig buts vs. wrappers & bottles...you'd have more trash.

I never said that it was okay to litter regardless of the object, the OP was about cigarettes.
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I see far more energy bar wrappers and even disgarded water bottles on the trails than anything else, maybe we should ban bikers from them.
Post #10, this thread. You'd think someone who smokes, would avoid a strawman.
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I can smell the patchouli and hybrid cars in this thread. The anti smoking crowd always gets pretty pretentious pretty fast.
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A guy once told me... "smoking and biking is counter productive". He had a fried chicken thigh on one hand, and a diet Pepsi on the other. I LOL'ed and ligther another one.
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When I smoked (real cigarettes), I never had a problem dropping non-smokers on a daily basis. I could had been faster if I haven't been smoking. But they could have been faster if they haven't been eating french fries. Besides, when you ride 30 or 40 miles daily (as I used to to back then), there's isn't much out there that can beat you.

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That is fair enough. A person's decision to knowingly participate in activities that are chronically bad and will lead to death is a personal decision, and frankly its all well and good if that is your choice. As you do not appreciate the holier than thou sentiment, martyrdom is overrated. A person's choice to drink, or do drugs or participate in any other harmful activity is a personal decision, as I said before, but it stands out to me that smoking cigarettes is the only activity of such that exposes unwilling individuals to your personal decision and its consequences. The people parking their bikes didn't ask to participate in smoking, the people following you on the trail didn't ask to be caught in a headwind of arsenic and tar. Their personal choice was to be in open air.

Just because it is the lesser evil doesn't make it not evil.
People do drugs or drink and then get behind a wheel of a vehicle all the time.

And if you are outside, and are only in it for a short time, probably the risk is pretty low. But since you are so worried about safety, you probably shouldn't leave the house as the odds of you getting hit are better than what little you inhale in such a short period of time causing any actual harm.

Now I will say, I generally avoid smoking around other people as I do try to be courteous about it. The problem is, there are a lot of spaces left and I know at least around here, bike racks are normally also away from everything and out of the way, so for someone trying to be courteous, it is often coincides with a good spot to light up.

I am getting ready to try and quit for the zillionth freaking time, but I will always uphold peoples right to do something legal regardless of how dumb it is. I hate the nanny state attitude and people's attitude that their thoughts and beliefs and far important than others.
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