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Old 07-25-12, 01:51 PM   #1
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Ways to reduce power bill

Or should i saw ways to reduce the amount of power i use! I want to use less then 650 kws a month since the rate goes up after 650.So far i dont watch as much tv and i try to turn off pc when not in use this is a 8 core cpu so it uses a lot of power.I sometimes switch to my 4 core pc but i like the 8 core a lot more.So what ideas do you have to reduce power usage im on all cfls now.Ps how many killowatts do you use per month?
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I use about 215. I have the ceiling fans on, but if I need to get cooler for a while, I take a quick shower, don't towel off and become a human swamp cooler. Usually I'm running the laptop and maybe the TV.
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I will cut back on something else before I turn my air conditioning off to reduce my power bill.
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Yeppers i need the ac.I live in the south
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Yeppers i need the ac.I live in the south
Lots of us lived in the south before AC.

Last summer I used my AC one day, that was when it got to 114.
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I wonder how much power your new halogen oven pulls. Did you have a gas or electric before?
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here ya go....give something like this a try.
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Lots of us lived in the south before AC.

Last summer I used my AC one day, that was when it got to 114.
heat kicks my rear.IN winter im happy as a clam .I dont need heat then
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I wonder how much power your new halogen oven pulls. Did you have a gas or electric before?
Full size electric.My halogen pulls around 1300 watts
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here ya go....give something like this a try.
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Lots of us lived in the south before AC.

Last summer I used my AC one day, that was when it got to 114.
I don't think I experienced a/c in a residential setting until I was at least 11. Prior to that, I would make an 'air tent' to keep cool. A box fan, a sheet, some strong magnets, and whatever heavy objects I could find to hold down the sides and far end of the sheet.

Now the only way I could live without a/c is if I had a ceiling fan in a room devoid of furniture. You'd be surprised at how much things like sofas, chairs, and beds can affect air flow.
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it's interesting stuff....but you won't even be able to run your oven with it.....
Even a well trained athelete produces what? Maybe 300-400 watts for an hour? Then you have losses of maybe 30-50%...so you get maybe 150-200 watts of useable energy. With some batteries, you might can charge those and use them to run some LED lighting in the house.
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If you use the old-school bulb lightbulbs, get rid of them and buy the energy-efficient bulbs. That makes a HUGE difference. Another is to put insulation pads under every outlet and light switch in the house. That prevents air blowing in and out through what are essentially big holes all over your walls. Make sure you have good weather-proofing around all exterior doors. If you can see light under your doors, you have a problem. A thin strip of rubber all the way around your door frame will make a nice seal.
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Lots of us lived in the south before AC.

Last summer I used my AC one day, that was when it got to 114.
But why?
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Prevent light from entering during the day, via blinds, shades, drapes, combination of multiples. Ideally, you would prevent the direct sunlight from even reaching the glass (during summer), but that's not always feasible. Oh, and if you have venetian blinds, rotate them so light they incline away from your window. Otherwise, direct light just passes down between them and you get the heat gains. Plus, it just looks better.

Open the house at night when temperatures drop below those set on your thermostat. Close windows during the day.

Close doors to unused spaces within the house, especially those at the perimeter. The heat gains in those rooms are more than those at the core (likely where your thermostat is). Don't allow their heat to contribute to an elevated temperature at your thermostat.

Cross ventilation is your friend. Moving air creates a perceived cooling sensation making it possible to raise the baseline temperature on your thermostat.

Indirect light from outdoors is always a plus. Open blinds on sides of the house receiving no direct sunlight. Fewer lights on = better.

Unplug unused appliances until they're needed.

Remove any thermal masses from areas where they might receive heat from outside sources (ie solar gains), to prevent them from holding and radiating heat into a space. Put them back in the winter.
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But why?
Back then, houses were designed to help with the heat. Now, it's just whatever a builder can throw together cheaply. <18" overhangs on a south facing side make me want to smack someone.
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Old 07-25-12, 03:35 PM   #18
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Or should i saw ways to reduce the amount of power i use! I want to use less then 650 kws a month since the rate goes up after 650.So far i dont watch as much tv and i try to turn off pc when not in use this is a 8 core cpu so it uses a lot of power.I sometimes switch to my 4 core pc but i like the 8 core a lot more.So what ideas do you have to reduce power usage im on all cfls now.Ps how many killowatts do you use per month?
For us it depends on the time of year. We used 370 kWh in May. Our peak usage month in the last 12 months was July 2011 (670 kWh). In January 2012 we used 460 kWh. To put this in perspective, we live in a 1970's 1100 SF bungalow, with a full basement. We have a natural gas furnace, and central a/c.

Our biggest waste of energy is all the digital clocks that need a constant supply of electricity (microwave, stove, fridge, DVD players, etc, etc, etc). Not sure why we need so many clocks in our lives.
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My best tip for reducing your power bill ... plant large shade trees on the south side of your house. Bit of a long term investment ... but worth it.
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My wife and I, in our 850 sq ft home and a 8,000 BTU window A/C unit use at most 300kWh. Usually closer to 250.

I like what Michael Bluejay has to say about electricity: http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/

Buy a kill-a-watt and see what devices are using the most electricity and see if you can do anything to reduce their use. For example, we connected our refrigerator up to it for a couple days and had it count kWh. We learned that the ancient fridge of ours uses 90 kWh/mo. We just purchased a new energy star fridge that should theoretically run on no more than 40kWh/mo.

I also learned with the kill-a-watt, that while most devices run on only a few watts of energy when turned off, this old stereo I had used 30 watts when it was completely powered off. That's half a light bulb all the time. Didn't even use the stupid thing much.
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Old 07-25-12, 04:23 PM   #21
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Folks next door bill is 240 a month now
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Old 07-25-12, 05:04 PM   #22
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clever use of how the air and heat moves about in your house and rooms.
Use a more efficient fridge, or clean out the radiator.
Only keep rooms you are using at a livable temperature.
install solar panels.
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Back then, houses were designed to help with the heat. Now, it's just whatever a builder can throw together cheaply. <18" overhangs on a south facing side make me want to smack someone.
I have two 48x48 windows on the south side of my house with zero overhang, as it's the gable end. I'm going to buy some awnings.
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I have two 48x48 windows on the south side of my house with zero overhang, as it's the gable end. I'm going to buy some awnings.
In Vermont, that's not a bad thing in the winter. The overhang should be a length that shades you during peak hours during the summer but allows for solar gains in the winter.
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In Vermont, that's not a bad thing in the winter. The overhang should be a length that shades you during peak hours during the summer but allows for solar gains in the winter.
Way ahead of you.

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