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    I want to get a dslr

    I've taken darkroom photography for 3 years in high school and haven't done much with it since.

    I've only used the canon rebel from like 2002. I never got to experiment with it, just take random photos.
    I don't know where to start this is just about as bad as looking for a laptop. lol
    a lot of people tell me to get the canon d60. shooting video sounds like fun too!

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    I want one to .Me id go with sony Since sony been so good to me.I love photography i just wish i was beter at it

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    Nothing wrong with a Canikon. I have Pentax largely due to legacy lenses. But at the time I bought my entry-level dslr, neither Canon's nor Nikon's offerings could compete on low-light performance.

    The pic below is not post-processed and is ISO 64k


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    I skipped the entry level cameras and went to a used Canon 30D. I still have it and it works great. I also have a Canon 50D. I would say if you are serious get the most you can afford Canon or Nikon and then get a better lens than the kit lens. I bought the body only and then bought a Canon 50mm f/1.8 lens. Nikon has an equivalent lens that is a reasonable price.

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    If you don't mind an older one, I have a Canon 20d with three lenses I'm thinking about selling. It's a great, robust camera, I just never use it since I got my Fuji X10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidlyBrave View Post
    Nothing wrong with a Canikon. I have Pentax largely due to legacy lenses. But at the time I bought my entry-level dslr, neither Canon's nor Nikon's offerings could compete on low-light performance.

    The pic below is not post-processed and is ISO 64k

    THats amazeing that iso and no noise.how much would that cost me?

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    I've been wanting to try a dSLR for a long time too. For you alphabet girl, that sounds much safer than joining the military.
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    I'd also suggest looking at some of the higher-end, but non-DSLR cameras. With film cameras the SLR feature was practically essential for anyone who wanted to take pictures through a range of different lenses since the single lens reflex design was the only way to have the viewfinder show exactly what you were photographing.

    But the SLR design also has substantial drawbacks - it's mechanically complex (therefore expensive and may suffer more failures), the lens needs to be designed to produce an image far behind the back of the lens which eliminates some lens designs that could be sharper and faster, and the camera ends up being a little bigger and heavier than it would need to be without the SLR mirror mechanism.

    With digital photography there's the LCD screen that lets you see exactly what will appear in the photograph without the need for the SLR design, so I see some significant benefits in the mid-range cameras that provide for interchangeable lenses but without the reflex design. More camera makers are coming out with models for this market that have relatively large sensor sizes, high sensitivity (useful ISO range), and a range of available lenses, incl. high quality zoom lenses that let you do most of your shooting without changing lenses.

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    Think seriously about whether you will carry and use a DSLR before you get one. Last year I was debating getting a nice Canon DSLR body - already had some nice prime lenses (180 2.8, 85 1.8, 24 2.0). I ended up deciding to sell the lenses and 35mm bodies on Ebay. Got great prices for the lenses (almost as much as my purchase price 8 or more years ago) and almost nothing for the 35 mm bodies of course.

    My reason? I just knew I would not carry the gear. I carried it for a few years as a pro (Nikon F3 bodies, heavy ass manual focus lenses) and I know it's not easy. Today, I carry a decent long zoom P&S, and a small HD video camera (Kodak) -- there are times I wish I had more camera with me, but having a camera I'll actually carry skiing or kayaking or hiking or whatever is better than having no camera at all because it was too big/heavy/inconvenient.
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    It's funny, I can't comment much on still shots (that is my wifes territory). However, after upgrading her 30D to a 60D I have had a BLAST using it for my Youtube videos. They take AMAZING video.

    Turn on HD and go full screen.

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    ^^The inconvenience of lugging a large body and several lenses around is the main reason I almost never use my DSLR these days. 90% of the time I'd rather take out my X10, probably 5% of the time I'll use my Canonet (also small and convenient, but film), and the rest of the time I'll use one of my other cameras.

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    You may have to work in order to pay for a DSLR.
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    ^There is a bit of grain there. At that resolution, it's difficult to see. I think I paid about $700 for a two-lens kit (K-x; 18-55mm and 55-300mm). The shot above was hand-held and taken with the 55-300mm at F5.6 and a shutter speed of 1/125. All of the current entry-level dslrs from Pentax, Nikon and Canon are superior to mine.

    But make no mistake about it - a faster lens will yield superior results than pushing ISO on a kit lens. But they cost much more...Most of my indoor low-light pictures lately have been with my 25year old 135mm manual focus prime. At f2.8 it's wide open and a bit soft. But if I can nail the focus, I get the shutter speed I need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidlyBrave View Post
    ^There is a bit of grain there. At that resolution, it's difficult to see. I think I paid about $700 for a two-lens kit (K-x; 18-55mm and 55-300mm). The shot above was hand-held and taken with the 55-300mm at F5.6 and a shutter speed of 1/125. All of the current entry-level dslrs from Pentax, Nikon and Canon are superior to mine.

    But make no mistake about it - a faster lens will yield superior results than pushing ISO on a kit lens. But they cost much more...Most of my indoor low-light pictures lately have been with my 25year old 135mm manual focus prime. At f2.8 it's wide open and a bit soft. But if I can nail the focus, I get the shutter speed I need.
    Thats a amazing shot.My sony hx97 does ok for what it is i love it but it just dont have the huge image sensor a dslr has.Plus dslr you can change lens.After seeing ya pic i want 1 even more

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    It all depends on what you want to get out of the hobby. I started with film and then went to the first digital point and shoots. Then on to high end mega zoom point and shoots. It wasn't until I got my DSLR and a nice lens that I was happy.

    OK, here's the low down as I see it. High end point and shoot or dslr with kit lens will not get you these pics.









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    When I was deciding what to do 5 or so years ago, I decided to go with a higher end point and shoot with a 18X zoom (panasonic lumix something or other) because it was cheaper than a dSLR and I wouldn't need to carry lenses around. I sometimes regret that as, while I can take decent pictures in good light, it's got the kind of jack of all trades, master of non thing going on. Not great at distance or with motion, or macros or wide angle or low light (lots of noise and only usuable at ISO800 or less), but it can do any of those things in a pinch. Sometimes I think I used to get better pictures from my old film point and shoot with no zoom but ISO 1600 or whatever it was film (maybe 3200? some crazy large number for cheap fuji film).
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    Photograph is by far one of my fav pastimes .as said before in just not to good at it.Reason i love my sony is amazing battery life and amazing video some say it has better video then camcorders.plus its 16x zoom and fits in my jeans pockets

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    Do you still have the "Canon Rebel from 2002"? It should have an "EF" lens that MAY work with current Canon bodies. I say 'may' because I am Nikon oriented and don't know the speciifics and potential limitations of older lens. I do know that the older "FD" lens will not work as that is what pushed me to Nikon as Canon effectively cut me loose. I had to buy new lens anyway so the field was wide open, otherwise I would have stuck with Canon.

    The 60D is a very nice camera, and I think the lowest level you can buy body only, use your older lens initially and upgrade the glass over time as you become aware of what you really want/need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris..... View Post
    It all depends on what you want to get out of the hobby. I started with film and then went to the first digital point and shoots. Then on to high end mega zoom point and shoots. It wasn't until I got my DSLR and a nice lens that I was happy.

    OK, here's the low down as I see it. High end point and shoot or dslr with kit lens will not get you these pics.








    Wow id love to hang with u for a day..Just to learn from you the art of photography.I get lost in many things like apature and iso

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    Quote Originally Posted by windhchaser View Post
    Wow id love to hang with u for a day..Just to learn from you the art of photography.I get lost in many things like apature and iso
    You need to familiarise yourself with the ins and outs of aperture, shutter speed and ISO. The settings of each one affect the other.
    It's pretty much second nature to me for some strange reason. I don't even have to think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tizeye View Post
    Do you still have the "Canon Rebel from 2002"? It should have an "EF" lens that MAY work with current Canon bodies. I say 'may' because I am Nikon oriented and don't know the speciifics and potential limitations of older lens. I do know that the older "FD" lens will not work as that is what pushed me to Nikon as Canon effectively cut me loose. I had to buy new lens anyway so the field was wide open, otherwise I would have stuck with Canon.

    The 60D is a very nice camera, and I think the lowest level you can buy body only, use your older lens initially and upgrade the glass over time as you become aware of what you really want/need.
    Correct. All EF lenses are compatible with all Canon DSLR bodies.

    OP, just look for craiglist for a rebel xti level camera. They should be cheap enough that is not a burden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris..... View Post
    It all depends on what you want to get out of the hobby. I started with film and then went to the first digital point and shoots. Then on to high end mega zoom point and shoots. It wasn't until I got my DSLR and a nice lens that I was happy.

    OK, here's the low down as I see it. High end point and shoot or dslr with kit lens will not get you these pics.








    My son will agree with you 100%.

    He is taking college classes right now on art and multimedia design and has been doing professional photography (and video) for a couple of years now... as he puts it...

    "it's all about the glass."

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    I bought this Canon 300 f/4 lens 2 years ago. It was made in 1991 and works perfectly.


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    I still say in 10 years the lens will be eliminated .Tehy will just use the image sensor and there will be software that will put the image together .I realy belive that the senosr sees all the light of the image or rather it gathers the light.And with a great senosr and software it could put the image together

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    I picked one expensive hobby and it was cycling. My wife, on the other hand, has a Nikon D3000. Not that great at video, but the stills are excellent.
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