Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Foo Off-Topic chit chat with no general subject.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-19-12, 04:50 AM   #1
RubenX 
Look! My Spine!
Thread Starter
 
RubenX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Bikes:
Posts: 619
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
What the heck is a drum cartridge?

My printer ran out of ink. It uses toner cartridges (TN-360) that last 2600 pages each. There's a "drum" cartridge (DR-360) for this printer that's supposed to last 12k pages. But... what the heck is this drum cartridge?

a) Is it toner on steroids that last a lot longer?
b) Is an additional part that works in conjunction with the toner cartridge?

Anybody has any experience on this?

Here's the toner cartridge: TN-360 2,600 pages, $48 bucks
Here's the drum cartridge: DR-360 12,000 pages, $68 bucks
__________________
"Hoy es un dia normal, pero yo voy a hacerlo intenso" ~ Juanes
RubenX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-12, 08:03 AM   #2
jsharr
You Know!? For Kids!
 
jsharr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Just NW of Richardson Bike Mart
Bikes: '05 Trek 1200 / '90 Trek 8000 / '? Falcon Europa
Posts: 6,157
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
http://www.brother-usa.com/accessori...x#.UDDyZqllQf4
__________________
Are you a registered member? Why not? Click here to register. It's free and only takes 27 seconds! Help out the forums, abide by our community guidelines.
Quote:
Originally Posted by colorider View Post
Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
jsharr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-12, 08:58 AM   #3
RubenX 
Look! My Spine!
Thread Starter
 
RubenX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Bikes:
Posts: 619
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I still don't get it. Does the printer needs a toner & a drum cartridge? Or can the drum cartridge be a replacement for the toner cartridge? I'm very confused.
__________________
"Hoy es un dia normal, pero yo voy a hacerlo intenso" ~ Juanes
RubenX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-12, 09:14 AM   #4
ModoVincere
Riding Heaven's Highways on the grand tour
 
ModoVincere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 1,675
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I was expecting a thread about your car's brakes.
__________________
1 bronze, 0 silver, 1 gold
ModoVincere is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-12, 10:10 AM   #5
Will G
Senior Member
 
Will G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Granbury, Texas
Bikes:
Posts: 710
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Maybe he is replacing his brake fluid with ink cartridge fluid, assuming he has drum brakes.
Will G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-12, 10:21 AM   #6
Tude 
Blasted Weeds
 
Tude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rochester, NY
Bikes: Trek 1200C, Specialized Rockhopper, Giant Yukon FX, Giant Acapulco
Posts: 1,182
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Yep - have a little copier/fax/scanner at work (purchased out of the company lists, therefore it is not supported) and it (Brother) wants a drum and toner cartridge.

From googling ...


What is a drum cartridge and what is the difference between a drum cartridge and a toner cartridge?



Best Answer
A Toner Cartridge holds toner and dispenses it as needed to make copies (in a copier) or to prints pages (in a printer).

Another element in xerographic copiers is the photoreceptor drum. This is the surface to which the toner adheres before being transfered to the paper. The photoreceptor has a long but finite useful lifetime and must be replaced occasionally. Some copiers/printers have drum cartridges which can be changed out by the user. The alternative would be to have a service person open the machine and replace the photoreceptor drum.

So, a drum cartridge alows the user to replace the photoreceptor drum and a toner cartridge allows the user to replenich toner supplies, both easier than before cartridges were developed for this purpose.
__________________
Tude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-12, 12:17 PM   #7
RubenX 
Look! My Spine!
Thread Starter
 
RubenX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Bikes:
Posts: 619
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Thanks Tude...

I have disassembled the whole thing. Comparing the disassembled parts to the pictures of the cartridges on sale it seems this printer has both a drum cartridge which is still good, and a toner cartridge which needs replacement. I must replace this ASAP so I can continue printing ferries for my little to color. Because when a female is not happy, the house is not happy. Even if it is the little female.
__________________
"Hoy es un dia normal, pero yo voy a hacerlo intenso" ~ Juanes
RubenX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-12, 12:46 PM   #8
Yo Spiff 
Carpe Velo
 
Yo Spiff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Bikes: 2000 Bianchi Veloce, '88 Trek 900, '88 Schwinn Prologue, '92 Schwinn Crosscut, '03 Diamondback Tandem, '94 Yokota Grizzly Peak
Posts: 2,514
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I work in the copier/printer business. The drum is the photoconducter that is used to create the image and is subject to wearing out over time. Some laser/LED printers have the drum and toner all enclosed in one unit, so when you replace the toner, you are also replacing the other wear and tear items like the drum. Other models, such as yours, have them separated, which can be more cost effective over time, as you just add toner when needed. The drum does have a life expectancy however and needs to be periodically replaced.

Some cartridge rechargers will clean out the image unit and put fresh toner in with the old drum. When the drum wears out, you will have problems with image quality. Better recharging companies will do an inspection of the drum condition and not reuse them more than once or twice. They will replace worn photoconducter drums. Others will just keep refilling them until they fail and then just do a warranty exchange.
__________________
2000 Bianchi Veloce, 199x Bianchi Volpe, 199x Bianchi Boardwalk, 2010 Bianchi Milano, '88 Schwinn Prologue, '88 Trek 900, 198x Benotto Triathlon. '88 Schwinn Crosscut
Yo Spiff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-12, 02:14 PM   #9
waynesworld
Papaya King
 
waynesworld's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Columbus, Ohio (Grandview area)
Bikes: 2009 Felt X City D, 1985 (?) Trek 400, 1995 (?) Specialized Rockhopper, 1995 Trek 850
Posts: 1,640
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
... I must replace this ASAP so I can continue printing ferries for my little to color. ...
Your kid colors boats? Cool!
waynesworld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-12, 08:08 PM   #10
waldowales
Old Fogy
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Murray, Utah
Bikes:
Posts: 1,224
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I wasn't sure which my Brother laser needed, so I ordered both. Tried replacing one, no joy, replaced the other, still no joy.
Ended up replacing both. Brother has the best product support in the business, give them a call and they will walk you through a diagnostic procedure and tell you which one you need.
waldowales is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-12, 11:19 PM   #11
Yo Spiff 
Carpe Velo
 
Yo Spiff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Bikes: 2000 Bianchi Veloce, '88 Trek 900, '88 Schwinn Prologue, '92 Schwinn Crosscut, '03 Diamondback Tandem, '94 Yokota Grizzly Peak
Posts: 2,514
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by waldowales View Post
Ended up replacing both. Brother has the best product support in the business, give them a call and they will walk you through a diagnostic procedure and tell you which one you need.
To those of us in the trade, Brother is the printer equivalent of the $99 Wal-Mart bicycle.
__________________
2000 Bianchi Veloce, 199x Bianchi Volpe, 199x Bianchi Boardwalk, 2010 Bianchi Milano, '88 Schwinn Prologue, '88 Trek 900, 198x Benotto Triathlon. '88 Schwinn Crosscut
Yo Spiff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-12, 11:24 PM   #12
bigbenaugust 
derailleurs are overrated
 
bigbenaugust's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: KIGX
Bikes: 2009 Fantom CX, 2012 Fantom Cross Uno, Bakfiets
Posts: 1,980
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yo Spiff View Post
To those of us in the trade, Brother is the printer equivalent of the $99 Wal-Mart bicycle.
Tell me about it. Our three-year old MFC will now forever print crooked because I pulled a jam out the wrong way a few weeks ago.
__________________
--Ben
Carrboro Bike Coalition - putting the "bike" in "CARrboro" :)
2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
Non-Bike hardware: openSUSE Leap - LinuxMint Debian Edition 2 - Mac OS 10.6 - Android 4.4 - CyanogenMod 13
bigbenaugust is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-12, 11:33 PM   #13
RubenX 
Look! My Spine!
Thread Starter
 
RubenX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Bikes:
Posts: 619
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I had a lexmark laser that lasted for years and years... and it was 2nd hand. When that one dies I got the brother... still going strong after ~ 5 years of abuse.
__________________
"Hoy es un dia normal, pero yo voy a hacerlo intenso" ~ Juanes
RubenX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-12, 09:19 AM   #14
monogodo
NFL Owner
 
monogodo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Irving Heritage District
Bikes: 7-Eleven Eddy Merckx, Vitus Futural, Catamount FRS, Colnago SL, SS MTB
Posts: 1,489
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
That reminds me, I need to order color drums for my DocuColor 242 & 240, I'm down to one.
monogodo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-12, 01:10 PM   #15
himespau 
Senior Member
 
himespau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
Bikes:
Posts: 9,476
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by waynesworld View Post
Your kid colors boats? Cool!
himespau is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:16 PM.