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Old 09-05-12, 09:06 PM   #1
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You wanna know what really pisses me off about car drivers?

... The attitude that every city and business and landlord and homeowner must provide parking.

"Excuse me - I recently paid $40,000 for a large steel box - it's imported from Germany - and I have brought it with me to your restaurant. Do you happen have a fenced in area where I can leave my steel box?... No?!!? Well, I am afraid I cannot patronize your restaurant!"
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Hect one day i saw this ass park his car on the area thats right in front of the store like the part u walk on i have no idea how he got his car there
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Parking, like most things is a commodity. When I negotiate an office lease, I negotiate parking spaces. If you want to operate a successful business, you must cater to the masses in most cases. And in most cases, the masses drive cars.
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None of you have been to Taiwan, or Amsterdam, or even here in Switzerland where there are parking lines on the footpath... have you?

And road rage in those places? None that we have seen.

Road rage appears to be a very special product of the US and countries that aspire to be like it.
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... The attitude that every city and business and landlord and homeowner must provide parking.

"Excuse me - I recently paid $40,000 for a large steel box - it's imported from Germany - and I have brought it with me to your restaurant. Do you happen have a fenced in area where I can leave my steel box?... No?!!? Well, I am afraid I cannot patronize your restaurant!"
What gets me is that when you can comfortably park four bicycles in the space it would take for one car you still find no bike parking near these places.
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None of you have been to Taiwan, or Amsterdam, or even here in Switzerland where there are parking lines on the footpath... have you?

And road rage in those places? None that we have seen.

Road rage appears to be a very special product of the US and countries that aspire to be like it.
Only been to England and Mexico. I am a myopic American and answereed according to my knowledge base. We are a self entitled country, hence the road rage.
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As counterpoint, some cities - NYC being one, has less stringent laws as to whether or not a place of business must provide parking for cars. Thus you can get many street front businesses where the only place to park is on-street, with no or infrequent public lots to put a car. Thus folks double park.

Chaos then reigns. One of the problems created is once folks learn they can double park with relative impunity, they do it all the time, thus they have what I call an attitude of "why park when I can double park", as folks simply stop their vehicle in the middle of the lane, in front of the store they need to visit, rather then actually pulling into an parking space 20 feet away. Too much effort. In NYC I suspect the beat cops are not equipped with the automated portable ticket writing machines that the parking enforcement folks use, thus the beat cops ignore the problem, as it's too much effort to hand write a ticket.

There's one business I pass every morning on the drive to work. A tire store that mostly specializes in fixing flats. They are a storefront only, with no garage to pull a car into, no adjacent parking lot, nothing. They stick a cone in the traffic lane and fix the car while using the travel lane. How and why the city issued them a business permit is beyond me.

So chaos reigns and I'd be glad to see some of these businesses razed to see parking lots installed.
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I don't need no parking place.
I park where I want.
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This thread bothers me just reading it.
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Odd choice in adjectives here. Please describe a fredly (sic) bite.
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... The attitude that every city and business and landlord and homeowner must provide parking.

"Excuse me - I recently paid $40,000 for a large steel box - it's imported from Germany - and I have brought it with me to your restaurant. Do you happen have a fenced in area where I can leave my steel box?... No?!!? Well, I am afraid I cannot patronize your restaurant!"
Makes sense to me.
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You wanna know what really pisses me off?

Whiney cyclists.
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Building code requires parking spaces for new construction, homeslice. The only people getting away with not providing it (or access to) are those with existing construction.
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Whiney cyclists.
Dude...that made laugh.

Thanks for saying what I was thinking!
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... The attitude that every city and business and landlord and homeowner must provide parking.

"Excuse me - I recently paid $40,000 for a large steel box - it's imported from Germany - and I have brought it with me to your restaurant. Do you happen have a fenced in area where I can leave my steel box?... No?!!? Well, I am afraid I cannot patronize your restaurant!"
It's called choice. Except for lunch I don't frequent any businesses in the city because of the parking. I will go to a restaurant if I take a bicycle ride into town.
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Dude...that made laugh.

Thanks for saying what I was thinking!

You know what really grinds my gears?

Sycophants.
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Yeah, a crazy elephant can wreck a lot of junk with it's trunk.
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You know what really puts my knickers in a twist?

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You know what really snap, crackles and pops by morning cereal?

People who use onomatopoeia!
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Eschew obfuscating inept excess verbiage.
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As counterpoint, some cities - NYC being one, has less stringent laws as to whether or not a place of business must provide parking for cars. Thus you can get many street front businesses where the only place to park is on-street, with no or infrequent public lots to put a car. Thus folks double park.

Chaos then reigns. One of the problems created is once folks learn they can double park with relative impunity, they do it all the time, thus they have what I call an attitude of "why park when I can double park", as folks simply stop their vehicle in the middle of the lane, in front of the store they need to visit, rather then actually pulling into an parking space 20 feet away. Too much effort. In NYC I suspect the beat cops are not equipped with the automated portable ticket writing machines that the parking enforcement folks use, thus the beat cops ignore the problem, as it's too much effort to hand write a ticket.

There's one business I pass every morning on the drive to work. A tire store that mostly specializes in fixing flats. They are a storefront only, with no garage to pull a car into, no adjacent parking lot, nothing. They stick a cone in the traffic lane and fix the car while using the travel lane. How and why the city issued them a business permit is beyond me.

So chaos reigns and I'd be glad to see some of these businesses razed to see parking lots installed.
Yeah, I can remember driving out of NYC and we saw a car which was double parked outside a workshop of some sort and they were actually doing major work on the engine! They parts all over the road like it was a part of their workshop!
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One autumn while I was working in a store, the road outside of the store was reduced to one land each way while the city rebuilt the roadway. To accommodate traffic and all of the construction vehicles and the workers, the on street parking was eliminated for about a week and caused endless panic for people who wanted to shop at any of the stores along that stretch of road. My favourite part? At least twice a day someone actually parked a car in the east bound land and were utterly shocked when the car was towed moments latter. Worst part? Someone asked me who was responsible for her parking and I said it was herself and she reported me to the manager for being rude. Well, it wasn't so bad. I did a delightfully insulting imitation and the manager laughed and didn't do any of the paperwork (I'm guessing an order to have me drawn and quartered).

In conclusion, people are stupid regardless of their modes of transportation.
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One autumn while I was working in a store, the road outside of the store was reduced to one land each way while the city rebuilt the roadway. To accommodate traffic and all of the construction vehicles and the workers, the on street parking was eliminated for about a week and caused endless panic for people who wanted to shop at any of the stores along that stretch of road. My favourite part? At least twice a day someone actually parked a car in the east bound land and were utterly shocked when the car was towed moments latter. Worst part? Someone asked me who was responsible for her parking and I said it was herself and she reported me to the manager for being rude. Well, it wasn't so bad. I did a delightfully insulting imitation and the manager laughed and didn't do any of the paperwork (I'm guessing an order to have me drawn and quartered).

In conclusion, people are stupid regardless of their modes of transportation.
That is the type of sense of entitlement I was talking about - people who leave their cars where it inconveniences others and get all up in a huff when anyone mentions it or their car gets towed.

I used to work in a downtown retail establishment that had a small parking lot with about five parking spots for customers. There were big "NO PARKING" signs on every wall surrounding the lot, and I would rush out whenever I saw someone parking and heading away from the store and yell "you can't leave your car here - it will be towed" (note clever use of the passive voice to hide the fact that I was the one who was calling the tow truck if they didn't move the car ) Usually they would thank me and come back and move the car... often to somewhere they would have to *gasp* pay for parking. Anyhoo, one day a car load of young, probably university age' women pulls into the lot and they all pile out and start walking toward the restaurant. I run out and say "you car will probably be towed if you leave it here."
"We are just going to bank machine by the corner"
Ok, fine. Five minutes goes by, then ten... fifteen... I call the tow truck because usually it takes at least an hour and if they were just having a hard time with the ATM or whatever they will still be back well before the tow. Forty-five minutes later the tow truck and the city parking enforcement guy have shown up and still no sign of the girls. So the car gets hooked up and off it goes.
Fifteen minutes later the girls are done their lunch at the neighboring restaurant and they come back... "Did you see a black Camry that was parked in the lot?"
"Oh, that was towed away. You have to call that number on the sign"
"oh... can I use your phone?"

Earlier in the day the bosses wife had come in to drop something off and she gave us hell over the state of the washroom... it had been a couple weeks since anyone cleaned it, it was pretty disgusting (all male staff at that time) and we hadn't drawn straws yet to see who was going to clean it this time. Also, the last time I was in there, I noticed there was no toilet paper left... no TP, no tissue, no paper towels.. nothing. I forgot to mention it to anyone.

So the one young lady is on the phone, and I see another one that had slipped in to use the bathroom has just come out with a not-too-pleased look on her face, and growls under her breath to one of the others "Its time time to go now."
Eventually they called a cab to take them to the impound lot... I don't know if they realized it was about a 40 minute drive from downtown, but I wish I had seen their reaction to that surprise as well.

The only time I regretted having someone towed away was when it was the bosses friend who left his Lexus parked in the lot while he had lunch with the boss... we had pretty strict instructions from the boss to keep non-customers out of the lot, so I didn't get in any trouble, but I had to explain to the guy and then drive him to go pick it up.
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