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    For the biking community

    My name is Kendall and I have something that's fairly sensitive to discuss, but if you read my entire post you will see that I, being a frequent forum user myself, fully understand forum etiquette and am fully respecting it.*

    I own a tech company which I will not identify here, and so that my intentions are clear, my company's identity can only be seen by the moderators and owner who can see it by the extension on my email address to verify that my statements are legitimate. The benefit of the few users I could try to siphon with this single thread is very minimal to my company. Our intention is to create a long term relationship that we believe will be mutually beneficial for both this forum's owner, the community and ourselves. The only way our platform will be revealed is if the forum owner decides to allow the arrangement.

    Now with that said, my company is a completely new kind of social platform that, while not replacing the hobby forum, does dramatically innovate certain aspects of it and therefore appeals to the same audience. Forums are for groups to speak together as a whole. Our platform is for people to create more engaging one-on-one relationships based upon similar activities, passions and interests. Unlike any other company making innovations in social networking, our platform was conceived one-hundred percent with diehard hobbyist in mind and will change the way hobbyists interact online. At the bottom of this post is a link to an anonymous Flickr image of our landing page, with blocked out names, to help explain our platform and so that you can see that this is something new and highly unique.

    Over the next year my company will be visiting various conferences and expos for biking as well as other hobbies. We will also be advertising on many forums such as this one. The only problem is, our platform is designed for all hobbies, and we currently can only focus our budget towards*the most receptive hobby*communities. So it first needs to be established if the biking community is one of those communities. If it is, we intend to advertise on this site and if that is all we end up doing, that is fine.*My strongest reason for approaching this forum, though, involves the forum owner and a potential partnership beyond a simple sponsorship of which we are confident will be well received. So if the forum owner will contact me we can discuss the matter further.

    Eventually, one way or the other, many people in the biking community will discover our company. But in the social space, the tone is often set by the earliest adopters, and we know that the forum community is the most upstanding and most knowledgeable kind of user to set the best tone within our own b community.*

    I hope that this isn't seen as a typical attempt to spam and won't be automatically dismissed as something that should be kicked. I'm requesting that decision to be left to the forum owner after they have heard what we are proposing.*We want to be completely above board in our actions here, and once everything is revealed you will see that we are not a typical company in how radically and controversially pro-user and pro-fairness we are in our policies and practices.*

    Ask me any questions other than my company's identity and I will answer as transparently as possible.

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    can we get a tl/dr?
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    Meh.
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    I don't care if you are on a unicycle, as long as you're not using a motor to get places you get props from me. We're here to support each other. Share ideas, and motivate one another to actually keep doing it.

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    Sorry, I wanted to explain it in full so that there wouldn't be any confusion. I have also found that moderators are the type that don't mind reading too terribly much even if everyone else does. This is further proof that I am not trying to be sneaky. Why would I write something that common users wouldn't even care to read.

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    I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but there are already very well-established online communities related to cycling. If we wish to video chat, or communicate outside of these ... let's call them forums ... we are all already free to do so, and by such means as have been available for a long time already and at least mostly free (IRC, Skype, Google+, Facebook, easily so many more). A quick online search will reveal online communities dedicated to local areas, such as one I peruse for my local greater municipality to keep up with news.

    I read your entire post and viewed the not-linked or posted image. It reads almost as spam, I'm sorry to say. I expected an attempted obfuscated paypal address at the end of it. Also, as I said above, what you're trying to do has been thoroughly covered by many sources already.

    And as I've heard from friends and read on so many forums, the last thing a lot of people want right now is a new account on yet another social networking site.

    I wish you all success. But since you were unable to find the much easier means to contact forum administration, I have to doubt the efficacy of your business, whatever it may be, as its administration is unable to take direct routes to affect its accomplishments. Your post, therefore, also seems an ill attempt at being viral.

    Nice try, though. And again, good luck. I'll be the one sitting back and watching from afar ... from very, very far.
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    Concerning our communication directly with the forum owner, we have found that with the small forums that more often than not that the "contact us" methods are often a dead end. This on the other hand works very effectively.

    Concerning established communities. I will simply say that by your own post you had to lay out a chain of separate systems to explain the existing process. Innovation happens when things are made far easier and direct. Myspace and Friendster seemed to do everything that Facebook came in with but small innovations made everyone abandon those sites over night simply because ease equals participation.

    With that said though, we our platform does creates a social atmosphere that has never existed before even remotely. That it introduces you to people you would like to meet because you have things in common is "what" it does. But "how" it does it is what is such an upgrade to existing methods to connect and discover others by whom you would like to know.

    But I appreciate your feedback more than you know.

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    Oh and we are certainly not attempting anything sneaky. No one can find out anything about our platform from anything I provided, not even through an exhaustive google search. I wanted to make sure of that, so when I said I was not trying to get some cheap gain, it would be believed. We are after an initial impression from the biking community to the offer of the forum experience that is richer and more user friendly. We also have things to discuss with the owners of this forum that we are fairly certain they will be interested in hearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kendallc81 View Post
    Oh and we are certainly not attempting anything sneaky. No one can find out anything about our platform from anything I provided, not even through an exhaustive google search. I wanted to make sure of that, so when I said I was not trying to get some cheap gain, it would be believed. We are after an initial impression from the biking community to the offer of the forum experience that is richer and more user friendly. We also have things to discuss with the owners of this forum that we are fairly certain they will be interested in hearing.
    Never did I say you're trying to be sneaky. I said there are better, more direct ways to contact forum administration, and the methods you're using are either poorly thought-out, or are an attempt at gaining interest in your business without actually contacting the forum administration. Assuming the former, I imagine that everyone involved has a lot to learn about what they're doing. If the latter, it may not be sneaky but it does seem a little underhanded.

    The mods and administrators are but a few clicks away. I suggest that route first and foremost with any desire to advertise on any board in such an out-right manner. It's immensely more professional.

    Because of the impressions of possible natures of your business, I cannot imagine myself being a part of the experience you offer.
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    If the idea is actually true, why's it under Foo?

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    I apologize that our actions have at least offended you enough to not respect our approach. But, as they say, this is not our first rodeo. If what you are supposing we are attempting were our goal, I assure you we would be far slicker in our approach. After all, who other than moderators would read such a lengthly letter? You don't get buz and traffic from back page of a novel.

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    Foo is your most "off-topic" channel. I didn't want to post in a channel where it would not apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kendallc81 View Post
    I apologize that our actions have at least offended you enough to not respect our approach. But, as they say, this is not our first rodeo. If what you are supposing we are attempting were our goal, I assure you we would be far slicker in our approach. After all, who other than moderators would read such a lengthly letter? You don't get buz and traffic from back page of a novel.
    Your methods have not offended me; I just find them repulsive and annoying.


    All you're doing with this thread is spinning your tires. You claim to not be doing anything sneaky, yet you use ambiguity just enough to hide the actual name of your business from your posts, and later suggest people search for you online. That in itself is low-brow viral marketing 101. Trust me. I've been involved with stopping spam posts for about a decade; I know most of the tricks, and you're not doing anything new. Not that it's spam, but you are being underhanded.


    Who other than moderators would read your entire posts? There are loads of active users on this forum. Of the people who have replied, so far it seems to be at LEAST 25% confirmed to have read your entire post most certainly, though "meh" cannot say that it wasn't read, nor does the tl;dr post, or the question about why this is in Foo. You severely underestimate where you are posting. This is one of the few forums with a Politics and Religion section, which manages to remain civil. Had you taken the time to get to know the community, you would have found a better way to introduce your business to an active and mostly very intelligent community.


    All you can tell us is that you're doing something with social networking for activities. And you wish to advertise. I have nothing whatsoever against either. However, your presentation is severely lacking. You take your offer to the off-topic section of a very busy forum, call it small, toss sideways insults at users, and continue to just be mildly viral. None of this conveys legitimacy to the people here who can so easily get in touch with the folks who dedicate their time to running this board.


    I can pull apart another of your posts and go a bit further than I already have.


    Quote Originally Posted by kendallc81 View Post
    Concerning our communication directly with the forum owner, we have found that with the small forums that more often than not that the "contact us" methods are often a dead end. This on the other hand works very effectively.
    There are better and more direct ways than a "Contact Us" link. Again this reflects your lack of knowledge of this board. Bike Forums is, in itself, a very interesting community. And we are by no means small. Perhaps we're no Facebook (in terms of size and in most cases exposure of our personal information), but your generalizations are quite insulting. Again I say: The administration are but a few short clicks away.


    Concerning established communities. I will simply say that by your own post you had to lay out a chain of separate systems to explain the existing process. Innovation happens when things are made far easier and direct. Myspace and Friendster seemed to do everything that Facebook came in with but small innovations made everyone abandon those sites over night simply because ease equals participation.
    So I'll render a more direct guess to the nature of your business. Either you are making just another social networking site, revolving around physically active people, and you require people to fill out their information and you only use that based loosely on how these other services work ...
    Or you're going to scrape information about people off those other social media sources, hope to accurately link the information all to the same person (say if there are two Bob Smiths in Cleveland who like water polo you'd hope to keep their information straight), and suggest those folks as contacts, and ultimately you've created more of a spider than an actual social networking platform.
    The former would be more legitimate, and the latter is again underhanded. I have to deal with the latter type of business calling my place of work on a regular basis, trying to glean that one bit of information so their search engine searchable through Google will come up higher in the rankings. All they do is list already publicly available information about the business.
    Their behavior is also distinctively similar to yours.


    With that said though, we our platform does creates a social atmosphere that has never existed before even remotely. That it introduces you to people you would like to meet because you have things in common is "what" it does. But "how" it does it is what is such an upgrade to existing methods to connect and discover others by whom you would like to know.


    But I appreciate your feedback more than you know.
    Not once has any of this said anything I can't already do, and quite directly. You almost make it sound like a sort of dating site (in sense of operation) except with a very narrow scope: "OK: Person1 enjoys spelunking. So does person2! They're in metropolitan areas within 50 miles, according to their profiles. Let's suggest them to each other." Hopefully your algorithms are a bit better than that!


    So yeah ...


    As they say on some adventuring boards: "Good luck with that."

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    Continuing discussion in this thread will not achieve much. I'm closing the thread. kendallc81, please check your Private Messages.

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