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Old 10-08-12, 12:43 PM   #1
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Abuse of authority?

Had a bizzaro incident happen to me on the way to work this morning...

I decided to drive this morning, and as I was getting ready to get onto the interstate I passed a Caddi SUV. This person was in the right lane not signalling, and driving slow on the interstate approach. So I hit my directional, and passed him in the lane on the left. Which there was, and I was in complete right to do so.

Well, this must have pissed off this guy because he began driving not more that 12" from my bumper..we were traveling at about 50 mph. I looked back at him in my rear-view mirror raising hell and telling this joker to get off my bumper. In doing this, I veered off the road and onto the shoulder. I suppose it *may* have kicked rocks up but I don't know if it did or not. I went back onto the road, and then the blue lights come on in the grill and he pulls me over.

He approaches my window, clearly angry and identifies himself as a federal officer, and I had just damaged federal property. He ordered me out of my vehicle to come see what I had allegedly done to his windshield. There was a very small ding in it. (I don't know If I did that or not..) I asked him if he had any kind of proof that I had done this and he became even more upset.

I asked him for a badge, and for a badge number. When I did he flashed it quickly in my face and then covered it to where I couldn't see the jurisdiction etc. I told him that we were going to stop right there and I called 911.

The cops showed up and I explained the situation to them, and they heard his side of the story.

Turns out he was from another jurisdiction. Not a federal officer. So I asked the police officer if that's the way it worked now, that a cop from another jurisdiction can intimidate and pull over citizens of our county....and the officer politely covered for him and told me I was free to go.

I'm not paying for his darn windshield. I called my ins company, and notified them of this incident.

I never got HIS name or HIS badge number. The officer who came to the scene said he would not write up a report for what he thought to be a road hazard.

I have full respect for the police and the job they do. But guys like this should never be allowed to have authority like this.

That's okay though. He rips through the neighborhood driving 70 in a 40 all the time. Guess I need to catch him doing it on my camera for safe-keeping.
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Old 10-08-12, 12:47 PM   #2
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Yes it's an abuse of authority.
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Old 10-08-12, 12:50 PM   #3
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I don't. The two good cops in this state keep messing it up for all the bad apples.
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Old 10-08-12, 12:51 PM   #4
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Blue light, unmarked, non-uniformed. I wouldn't have pulled over and I sure as hell wouldn't have gotten out of my vehicle.
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Old 10-08-12, 12:55 PM   #5
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Blue spinner is EMT as well, though. If a civilian/EMT turns their light on, official vehicle or not, you're supposed to treat them like a emergency vehicle and get out of the way, iirc.
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My gut tells me what he did to you is very very very illegal.. I have no idea if it really is or not, but I think he's lucky the cop didn't want to do any paperwork.
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Blue spinner is EMT as well, though. If a civilian/EMT turns their light on, official vehicle or not, you're supposed to treat them like a emergency vehicle and get out of the way, iirc.
Actually, that is just a courtesy, at least in Indiana, by law you don't have to. And they people with the blue lights are still required to obey all traffic laws. I got hit by an EMT driver with their blue light on once, she T-Boned me when she ran a stop sign, and I was planning on getting out of her way, but was driving a vehicle with out power brakes, so I couldn't stop before the intersection. Long story short, completely her fault, and was told by another EMT friend, if they get into an accident with their light on, they are instantly out of a job.
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My gut tells me what he did to you is very very very illegal.. I have no idea if it really is or not, but I think he's lucky the cop didn't want to do any paperwork.
Actually, as territorial as those guys tend to be, he probably handled things off the record and didn't want him around for the conversation that followed.
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Yes it's an abuse of authority.
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Sounds like it's impersonating a federal officer. I'm sure there's a penalty for that. The other cop was doing him a big favor.
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Complete abuse. I'm surprised the other cop let you go without anything, usually they stick up for each other.

Speaking of abuse of authority....I was pulled over once late at night when I was younger (which it was stupid of me to have pulled over, even though they were cops). Two guy police officers are riding beside me in their official vechicle, I look over and they signal for me to pull over. I do. One of the cops gets out and walks to my window, I'm freaking out here, mind you they didn't turn on their lights or anything, and asks me out. I was in shock. He gave me his phone number and then went back to his car.

Really gave me the creeps, especially since they had my license plate # and could get my address. Point is, there's bad apples in every profession. Sorry you had to go through that.
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Sounds like it's impersonating a federal officer. I'm sure there's a penalty for that. The other cop was doing him a big favor.
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Complete abuse. I'm surprised the other cop let you go without anything, usually they stick up for each other.

Speaking of abuse of authority....I was pulled over once late at night when I was younger (which it was stupid of me to have pulled over, even though they were cops). Two guy police officers are riding beside me in their official vechicle, I look over and they signal for me to pull over. I do. One of the cops gets out and walks to my window, I'm freaking out here, mind you they didn't turn on their lights or anything, and asks me out. I was in shock. He gave me his phone number and then went back to his car.

Really gave me the creeps, especially since they had my license plate # and could get my address. Point is, there's bad apples in every profession. Sorry you had to go through that.
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Had a bizzaro incident happen to me on the way to work this morning...
A couple weeks ago an undercover federal cop was sitting in a parking lot watching for a panga landing. One of the locals wanted the space so he approached the fed and told him to move. The fed flashed his badge. The local said that he was an undercover parking officer; the fed was illegally parked and then slid a copy of a parking citation under the windshield wiper. So the (real) cop moved his car and let the local park there.

The fed calls the city cops who come over and speak to the local. He (the local) refuses to move his car. The city cops leave and the federal cop gets second choice among spaces in the lot.
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A couple weeks ago an undercover federal cop was sitting in a parking lot watching for a panga landing. One of the locals wanted the space so he approached the fed and told him to move. The fed flashed his badge. The local said that he was an undercover parking officer; the fed was illegally parked and then slid a copy of a parking citation under the windshield wiper. So the (real) cop moved his car and let the local park there.

The fed calls the city cops who come over and speak to the local. He (the local) refuses to move his car. The city cops leave and the federal cop gets second choice among spaces in the lot.
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Yeah, I didn't really think at first...I didn't really have to do $**T. I only played along because the guy got me at first. But his intimidation soon became moot as soon as I called the local police.

Looking back at it retrospectively, I see some things I should have done, and maybe some I should not have. I know now he didn't want me to see his badge because he had told me he was a federal officer.

What the hell is that anyway? I've heard of federal agents or authorities. But a federal officer...BS

I did get pretty animated when he started with the badge BS. That was when I had figured out this guy was full of $**T. The local guy was actually more on my side I think. He said he wasn't interested in taking a report on what he saw as a road hazard.

I hope this jackbag tries to come after my insurance. My agent of (30yrs) told me that all I had to do was contest the claim. Then the adjuster would have to get reports from both parties, and the burden of proof would be on him to prove that my truck actually did throw the rock that chipped his windshield.

The way I see it, improperly identifying himself as a "federal officer" and unlawfully detaining me for allegedly putting a chip in his darn windshield. Really???

Nice bust Dick F*****G Tracy.
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Did he smell bad? If so, I bet MangoPumpkin knows him.
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I would have karate chopped the dude in his adam's apple.

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HAHAHAHA!! Yeah, Hell ya he smelled bad...if I'm not mistaken...I think it was an overdose of AXE! Funny that you mention that
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I would have karate chopped the dude in his adam's apple.

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He was still a cop... Had I done that, it would have given him the upper hand.
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HAHAHAHA!! Yeah, Hell ya he smelled bad...if I'm not mistaken...I think it was an overdose of AXE! Funny that you mention that
Definitely not my security guard then.
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Looking back at it retrospectively, I see some things I should have done, and maybe some I should not have. I know now he didn't want me to see his badge because he had told me he was a federal officer.
Just goes to show why you should strap your running Go-Pro to your head, so it can be useful no matter what mode of travel, eh?
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