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Old 10-11-12, 09:12 PM   #1
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I love and hate Craigslist all at the same time.......

Listing a 1998 BMW 328i. Apparently brings all the idiots to the yard. I've wasted several days meeting people, showing car, taking to garages to get looked at and I think I'm done trying to sell it. Todays final straw was 3 white trash Eastern European junior gangsters with soccer club jerseys and too much cologne. They instantly started talking crap in both English and whatever language they normally speak. Talking about how dirty the car is, hard steering, etc. etc. etc. Mind you, this is a car that has every power option available, all leather, never been in an accident, has all original parts and a clean car fax and print out from local garage showing no computers codes, etc. Car still get's over 30 mpg! It got so bad I just told them they obviously don't want the car and just got in it and left them standing there wondering why I wouldn't take their offer of less than $2000 below what I was asking. One greaseball even said he had the same car and it was so much better than mine.
These chuckleheads were just the topper to cake that has people wanting to make me payments, trade for crotch rockets and 2 guys who took to the same garage to get looked at and the owner talked them out of it because I wouln't spend $1500 in his shop to get something fixed there I got done for $700 elsewhere.
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It stinks because it will likely turn away some prospective buyers, but you really have to convey being a kind of a jerk through CL ads, particularly for cars, especially a beemer, otherwise you're going to get a lot of idiots coming to kick the tires. Also make sure to talk with them extensively on the phone before you let them come see it. Make sure they're at least not going to BS you and lowball the price. I thought I was going to have to sell my old benz a few months back, and I absolutely dreaded the prospect of idiots coming, driving the hell out of it, and making up BS to try to get a better price. The guy that sold it to me said he had probably 20 people come see it before me, and I was the only person he actually felt comfortable selling it to, and this was after I bought it so In know it wasn't butt kissing BS.
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Craigslist is worth every penny the ads cost you. Your Eurotrash friends are just starting the bargaining process. You have the right to boot their smelly selves off the premise. It all works out. Shut the jerks down early or have a sense of the absurd.
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I went with a friend when he was trying to sell his 91 jaguar vanderplas. Perfect condition, 78k original miles. The guy was like I had the same exact car before in white. I love the car but I hate this color, white is so much better. Thanks ahole for wasting our time. The ad had pics and it clearly wasn't white.
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Any person who tries to get me to "lowest" on the phone is an automatic turn away, regardless of what I am selling. I explicitly state no trades in my ads, so anyone who offers one is also turned away forthwith. Reading comprehension is the simplest determiner to intelligence when making a deal. If you can't read, I won't deal with you.
I make it a POINT to talk to someone and get a feel before having them over, or going to look at an item. I NEVER talk money on the phone, but have talked about payment for clarity. It is simple courtesy to look at something before you start trying to undermine price.

I have found that printouts of KBB (etc) are quite helpful to prospective buyers who start lowballing. Show them the (3) price rundown on the printout and let them know WHY it's priced where it is backed with facts.

Best of luck....and I love that comment about getting what you paid for the ad, lol...priceless.
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Any person who tries to get me to "lowest" on the phone is an automatic turn away, regardless of what I am selling.
Or in person for that matter. More than once I've had someone say, "So, what's the least you'll take?" Seriously? You think I want to cut my own throat just because you asked? What's the most you'd pay, bucko? Sheesh, some people's kids.
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Or in person for that matter. More than once I've had someone say, "So, what's the least you'll take?" Seriously? You think I want to cut my own throat just because you asked? What's the most you'd pay, bucko? Sheesh, some people's kids.
I tack on $20 to the price just to take it off if someone asks when I sell bikes. I usually make my prices divisible by 20 to make it easy from buyers to pull money from the ATM.

Had a guy offer $20 on a $80 beach cruiser. My reply stated clearly that as soon as I can go to the grocery store and get 75% off just for asking, I'd accept his offer. Plenty of buyers, just takes patience.
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Old 10-12-12, 05:10 PM   #8
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Listing a 1998 BMW 328i. Apparently brings all the idiots to the yard. I've wasted several days meeting people, showing car, taking to garages to get looked at and I think I'm done trying to sell it. Todays final straw was 3 white trash Eastern European junior gangsters with soccer club jerseys and too much cologne. They instantly started talking crap in both English and whatever language they normally speak. Talking about how dirty the car is, hard steering, etc. etc. etc. Mind you, this is a car that has every power option available, all leather, never been in an accident, has all original parts and a clean car fax and print out from local garage showing no computers codes, etc. Car still get's over 30 mpg! It got so bad I just told them they obviously don't want the car and just got in it and left them standing there wondering why I wouldn't take their offer of less than $2000 below what I was asking. One greaseball even said he had the same car and it was so much better than mine.
These chuckleheads were just the topper to cake that has people wanting to make me payments, trade for crotch rockets and 2 guys who took to the same garage to get looked at and the owner talked them out of it because I wouln't spend $1500 in his shop to get something fixed there I got done for $700 elsewhere.
Craigslist, why do you hate me so!?
Like i said last week and even mentioned cars,the world of used anything whether buying or selling is utter heck.The used anything culture has very seedy people in it .Of course, there are exceptions.Take it to a dealership and do a trade in.I know you will lose about 30% on the deal but think about all the time it has cost you already.Not to mention the freak shows you have interact with.Yes, you will lose a bit of cash but not enough to effect your your life.Your post reenforces my post from a couple of weeks ago.Best of luck to you.
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Old 10-12-12, 05:26 PM   #9
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we are currently in the middle of a inter-company war on craigslist and several other websites that stems from old drama.
people are aggravating
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Old 10-12-12, 06:28 PM   #10
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I have only had a couple of Craigslist encounters and they were all positive. I was going to say that you were simply seeing the kinds of people that want to be BMW owners, but I'm afraid that there are a lot of people like you experienced in the general population, and you could have had much worse people visit you. There have been stories on our TV news about people answering Craigslist ads and robbing the owners.
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Old 10-12-12, 06:36 PM   #11
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So far I have never had any threateningly wierd CL showings in the years of selling/buying stuff. I did have one try to ask 50 on a 275 tractor after test running it for 5 mins. I took the keys and told him to leave, raised it to 300 and sold it the next day to a happy person. It's a slower sell rate now than it was a couple years ago, but it still holds to being about 5 dud showings to 1 buyer average.
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Old 10-13-12, 12:20 AM   #12
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You just have wait it out. If the car is that nice, eventually the right buyer will find you. Also, it's not just Craigs List. It's used car sales everywhere, even at a dealership.

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Listing a 1998 BMW 328i. Apparently brings all the idiots to the yard. I've wasted several days meeting people, showing car, taking to garages to get looked at and I think I'm done trying to sell it. Todays final straw was 3 white trash Eastern European junior gangsters with soccer club jerseys and too much cologne. They instantly started talking crap in both English and whatever language they normally speak. Talking about how dirty the car is, hard steering, etc. etc. etc. Mind you, this is a car that has every power option available, all leather, never been in an accident, has all original parts and a clean car fax and print out from local garage showing no computers codes, etc. Car still get's over 30 mpg! It got so bad I just told them they obviously don't want the car and just got in it and left them standing there wondering why I wouldn't take their offer of less than $2000 below what I was asking. One greaseball even said he had the same car and it was so much better than mine.
These chuckleheads were just the topper to cake that has people wanting to make me payments, trade for crotch rockets and 2 guys who took to the same garage to get looked at and the owner talked them out of it because I wouln't spend $1500 in his shop to get something fixed there I got done for $700 elsewhere.
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Old 10-13-12, 10:19 AM   #13
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I've had good luck so far buying and selling stuff on CL. I'm going to be selling my 99 BMW M3 convertible in a month or so...I'm already preparing for every 19-24 year old "Fast and Furious" wanna-be wearing a flat-bill hat and saggy jeans to want to come test drive it. My plan is to be as honest as possible in the ad...good, bad and ugly. It drives perfectly, but needs a little cosmetic TLC. I will list a firm price that is actually fair (I'm not jacking the price up so that someone can talk me down and make them feel good).
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Yea anything I've listed on CL I've done a firm price... Pawn stars has made everyone think they're an expert negotiator. It really messes with used car prices too, because like you said, people jack up the prices thinking someone is just going to talk them down, and then new sellers think that the asking price is what they can get for their car...
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I've sold a lot of things using Craigslist (mostly bike stuff), and it's frequently frustrating. However, none of it compares to the two times I've sold cars using Craigslist. People asking if I could sell the car to them for 1/3 what I was asking, demanding I trade with them for firearms, motorcycles, lowered minitrucks, etc. Despite the fact that my ad specifically stated that I wasn't accepting trades. One guy came to look at one car, insisted that I had told him on the phone that I'd take $400 off the asking price for no reason, then got mad when I told him he had completely misunderstood what I said. Selling anything on Craigslist is an exercise in patience, but selling a car is maddening.

For what it's worth, most of the buyers I've dealt with involving bike related items were very nice and reasonable.

Another thing I've learned, you can list some piece of junk for $1 and no one will email you, but list the same item for free and you'll have 30+ emails within a couple of hours.
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Once I had a person offer $20 less and I said whatever. They then asked if I had change for $100. No sorry.
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Yea anything I've listed on CL I've done a firm price... Pawn stars has made everyone think they're an expert negotiator. It really messes with used car prices too, because like you said, people jack up the prices thinking someone is just going to talk them down, and then new sellers think that the asking price is what they can get for their car...
It's called horse-trading.
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