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Old 12-06-12, 08:05 AM   #1
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my son got a promotion!

My youngest son decided, in June 2010, to NOT go to college. He took a job in the oil & gas fields. Well, he called last night, and he's just been promoted to driller! Not quite 21, he'll be making $80K+. OMG!
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Is this in ND where suddenly the cost of living there makes $80k seem like minimum wage? (I have relatives that work in the ND fields and they said their money sounds awesome, but it doesn't get them much after rent and driving home for their weeks' breaks.)

Congrats to him, though!
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Well done to him and guess who wont have any college debts to steal away some of his 80K
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Is this in ND where suddenly the cost of living there makes $80k seem like minimum wage? (I have relatives that work in the ND fields and they said their money sounds awesome, but it doesn't get them much after rent and driving home for their weeks' breaks.)

Congrats to him, though!
Not ND - he lives in WV, but his company is out of Indiana, PA - these past few months they've been working on the PA/NY border, but most of thier work has been near Washington PA. His company puts them up & gives them a per diem for food & gas... and he bought a 100+ acre farm a few miles from us. Farm, cows, got married... WHY does this child want to be an adult so badly?!?
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Awesome! I've been reading about the drilling out there.

Ever watch the show Black Gold? Pretty interesting. Lotta hard work those fellows do.
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That's great news!! Congrats to him!
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Mango - that Black Gold show is a bunch of TX rednecks having a soap opera at work. In the real world, those guys would get fired for an assortment of safety violations, probably would NOT pass thier drug/alcohal tests, and for goofing off in general! The WV/PA guys have a saying "This Is Not F***ing TEXAS" - abbreviated on thier helmets as TINFTx!

In the real world, some companies work 3 crews on 8 hour shifts, some work 2 crews on 12 hour shifts. Safety regulations call for long sleeve fire retardant shirts & heavy fire retardant jeans to be worn. The oil, grease, yuck & muck collected on this clothing can make a freshly laundered shirt that's been in use for a month or two weigh almost 10 pounds - that stuff just doesn't come out in the wash! Running around a rig in a t-shirt is a firing offense.
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I think in the near future there will be a swing of NOT going to college. When you do the calculations, a hard working kid who starts a career right out of HS (I mean a career, not waiting tables) can make more money four years later than a kid right out of college starting his first job. And with unemployment at about 50% for college grads and tuition increasing every semester, sometimes it makes sense to skip it. 80K for a 21 year old is tremendous no matter where you work.
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My youngest son decided, in June 2010, to NOT go to college. He took a job in the oil & gas fields. Well, he called last night, and he's just been promoted to driller! Not quite 21, he'll be making $80K+. OMG!
Congrats to your son, I think he's doing great for a wipper snapper! LOL! and his judgment seems very sound.
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his company is out of Indiana, PA - these past few months they've been working on the PA/NY border, but most of thier work has been near Washington PA.
Not downing you son in any way shape or form =0) as I mentioned I feel he's making very good (financial) decisions in his life for such a young man, but the company he works for is wrecking everything they touch up in those beautiful mountains. Its a shame but no one seems to be doing much to stop them. I don't blame the workers at all, they're just trying to survive.
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My youngest son decided, in June 2010, to NOT go to college. He took a job in the oil & gas fields. Well, he called last night, and he's just been promoted to driller! Not quite 21, he'll be making $80K+. OMG!
Jeeze... took a 4 year college degree and some 10 years experience before I was able to touch that pay rate. Hope he enjoys it and stays healthy. No doubt a big new truck is in his sights. (I often wonder how young folks can afford big new trucks and things like off road toys and jet skis... no doubt this is how).
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Is this in ND where suddenly the cost of living there makes $80k seem like minimum wage? (I have relatives that work in the ND fields and they said their money sounds awesome, but it doesn't get them much after rent and driving home for their weeks' breaks.)

Congrats to him, though!
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This is in West-By-God where they drill into an existing BP oil line.
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Mango - that Black Gold show is a bunch of TX rednecks having a soap opera at work. In the real world, those guys would get fired for an assortment of safety violations, probably would NOT pass thier drug/alcohal tests, and for goofing off in general! The WV/PA guys have a saying "This Is Not F***ing TEXAS" - abbreviated on thier helmets as TINFTx!

In the real world, some companies work 3 crews on 8 hour shifts, some work 2 crews on 12 hour shifts. Safety regulations call for long sleeve fire retardant shirts & heavy fire retardant jeans to be worn. The oil, grease, yuck & muck collected on this clothing can make a freshly laundered shirt that's been in use for a month or two weigh almost 10 pounds - that stuff just doesn't come out in the wash! Running around a rig in a t-shirt is a firing offense.
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Not downing you son in any way shape or form =0) as I mentioned I feel he's making very good (financial) decisions in his life for such a young man, but the company he works for is wrecking everything they touch up in those beautiful mountains. Its a shame but no one seems to be doing much to stop them. I don't blame the workers at all, they're just trying to survive.
I get your point... but his company adheres to all the EXISTING PA enviro rules & regs... and what more can you ask a company to do? Seems to me - and I live in NG land - that the O&G folks make a much smaller mess than the coal folks, but that's neither here nor there!
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I get your point... but his company adheres to all the EXISTING PA enviro rules & regs... and what more can you ask a company to do? Seems to me - and I live in NG land - that the O&G folks make a much smaller mess than the coal folks, but that's neither here nor there!
We really need to keep West-By-God prestine so I can go down and shoot deer+turkey in the face(during season of course).God bless Mountain state muzzle loading products.
If not for the coal mines we would not have all those country songs right?

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Congratulations on your son's promotion. It sounds like he's started off in the right direction.
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so, spry... where've ya been? I STILL have deer rampaging through my yard, and there were at least 2 dozen of those turkeys playing tag with my yard-bunnies this morning!
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$80k, eh? My niece graduated from TU with a bio-chem degree and only managed to get $65k for her first job down in Texas. They are still paying off her student loans.

And since he got bumped up, that means they need a body to replace him? I'm sure I could make there by Valentine's Day...
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Congratulations to him! My first real job, after 5 years at university plus 2 extra years studying Chinese, got me about $25k a year. Fortunately, my costs of living were low and the only loans I had to pay off were to my dad. I can't even imagine being able to start saving from an $80k salary at the age of 21.
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so, spry... where've ya been? I STILL have deer rampaging through my yard, and there were at least 2 dozen of those turkeys playing tag with my yard-bunnies this morning!
Now with the kids out of college I have time and a little money to"mosey"on down there to hunt or across the river in Vinton county.
Not a more attractive place in America during the winter,West-By-God or southeast Ohio.
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I used to work on oil drilling rigs in Oklahoma, Texas and Louisiana installing electronic equipment. (Visulogger for anybody familiar) Drillers were the bosses of the rig and had to have a lot on-the-ball for tht job. There are soooo many factors that are constantly changing that he has to pay attention to. The device I was installing had a computer screen and keypad to enter data. One time, one of the roughnecks watching us asked if they could watch cartoons on the screen (this was way before the internet). I replied that it actually got PBS but no one ever bothered to turn it on.
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Mango - that Black Gold show is a bunch of TX rednecks having a soap opera at work. In the real world, those guys would get fired for an assortment of safety violations, probably would NOT pass thier drug/alcohal tests, and for goofing off in general! The WV/PA guys have a saying "This Is Not F***ing TEXAS" - abbreviated on thier helmets as TINFTx!

In the real world, some companies work 3 crews on 8 hour shifts, some work 2 crews on 12 hour shifts. Safety regulations call for long sleeve fire retardant shirts & heavy fire retardant jeans to be worn. The oil, grease, yuck & muck collected on this clothing can make a freshly laundered shirt that's been in use for a month or two weigh almost 10 pounds - that stuff just doesn't come out in the wash! Running around a rig in a t-shirt is a firing offense.
I don't think that's Texas either. It's just cable TV. Just like all those other shows like Orange County Choppers. You know if people acted like that on the job they'd be out of business or fired. It's pretty infuriating to me when they put stuff like that on TV as a "reality" show.

Congrats to your son, apclassic9. I'd be thrilled if my oldest got hired at a $30k/year pharmacy tech job (he's working an unpaid internship right now; hoping they hire him on).
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