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Old 12-11-12, 08:59 AM   #1
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Are there any PC type computers made in the USA?

Apple is going to make some of their macs in US factories. So I was wondering if there are any PC type computers made in the US.

I have something of a wager going on with a friend... and my challenge to him is to find a PC made in the US. I don't think they exist... that ultimately some part of the PC will be made offshore.
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In reference to jsharr's link above, just last month I bought a ZT systems desktop from the Costco website. They are assembled in Secaucus, New Jersey. Given the globalizaton of electronics manufacturing, I doubt if you could find a PC laptop or desktop that was made entirely of components manufactured in the USA.
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I'd wager that you'll win your wager. Just remember, there's a difference between "made" and "assembled". Although it's easy to find computers "assembled" here, I don't think you'll ever find one that's 100% American made.

Oops... Millcreek beat me to it. What he said.
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I have a ZT computer... got it at Costco, and frankly I got it due to price. It has worked well over the years.

At the bottom of the website offered by jsharr, is this disclaimer:

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Keep in mind that no computer can be made of 100% American parts. Computers are made of a diverse amount of components made in countries all over the world. In fact no computer can be 100% made in any country. Computers made in China are made up of foreign and American parts too. Hard drives, processors, RAM, motherboards and many other components are made throughout the world. Some individual components are made in factories in several different countries. Because of the diversity of the supplier chain, no computer is made of parts from just one country. But when you are buying an American computer, you are supporting American assembly jobs, and also providing a cost advantage for domestic suppliers of computer components.
Which is why I am challenging my friend... you really won't find a complete made in the USA computer.
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I would say it is almost impossible to find a computer made from 100% American made components, I was just trying to point you in a direction for American assembled computers at least. At the very least, you could use the link I posted to support your argument about off shored components.
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I assembled mine in the USA. Does that count?
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I assembled mine in the USA. Does that count?
Well if we look at it that way... every computer I have owned was assembled in the USA. In the past I put together my own systems. The ZT computer was the first I ever bought in a box. And to be honest... while the computer has worked well, they used a bare bones power supply... which I have since replaced with one with more capacity. (less subject to power glitches).
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How far down are you going to go? To the board? The electronic component level?

I think it's impossible if you go that far, as it's not at all cost effective to make some of that stuff here. You can't really have a $79 tablet without stuff being made where there are no environmental regulations. Neither can you have clean water without paying more for stuff, but this is P&R material.

Now, I thought Dell still did some assembly in Texas. Sun, as of when I left in '05, still did some manufacturing of high-end systems in Pendleton, Oregon, and in the Bay Area (Newark) until '03 or so. Neither of these would exactly qualify as "PCs", however.
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I believe that there are some components that are not made in the USA at all. Hard drives, cpu's, ram, some of these may not be made here.
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Electronic? Doubtful. But organic on the other hand...
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And let's not forget the minerals required to build computers, most of which come from rebel controlled mines in war torn African countries.
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