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Old 04-03-13, 02:26 PM   #76
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These models were owned by me or my immediate family. I won't apologize for the Thunderboat; it was like cruising down the highway in a Lazyboy.

I only paid $50 for the Gremlin. It ran for a winter while adding only gasoline, and I sold it for $50.


The rest don't speak well for my bloodlines.


My great aunt owned a 62ish Valiant-yuk.
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Old 04-03-13, 02:27 PM   #77
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I used to own one of these - out on the open road it felt like an extension of my body. Too bad the interior was rubbish.
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Every time I see one of these, I cry a little inside. It's like taking a Victoria's Secret model and making her obese.

Like someone fed a Porsche 911 a whole buch of Big Mac meals.

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These models were owned by me or my immediate family. I won't apologize for the Thunderboat; it was like cruising down the highway in a Lazyboy.

I only paid $50 for the Gremlin. It ran for a winter while adding only gasoline, and I sold it for $50.


The rest don't speak well for my bloodlines.


My great aunt owned a 62ish Valiant-yuk.
I would love to have a '62 Valiant.
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I would love to have a '62 Valiant.
In high school, my girlfriend's parents had a 62 Valiant Wagon. It was ugly, but we went all over in it. It had 3 on the tree, and the seat didn't slide far enough back for me to be comfortable driving, I can still feel how heavy that clutch was and how clunky the shifter was. But lots of amazing times in that car.

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I'm fond of not-so-beautiful cars. They don't need meticulous care, and if you crash them...meh. Chances are about even that collision damage will be an improvement.

This thread should siphon off the unfortunate candidates that show up in the Beautiful Car thread which may have technical virtues and impressive reputation, but are lacking in visual appeal. Ideally.
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I'm fond of not-so-beautiful cars. They don't need meticulous care, and if you crash them...meh. Chances are about even that collision damage will be an improvement.

This thread should siphon off the unfortunate candidates that show up in the Beautiful Car thread which may have technical virtues and impressive reputation, but are lacking in visual appeal. Ideally.
Here you go... my 1993 Nissan Sentra is as basic as they come, is banged up here and there, has some rust, nearly 250,000 km on the odometer, and runs like it is still new.

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Can't argue with his attention to detail but.......

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I recall the price was in excess of $100,000...
Somebody came to us one day to have a tire changed on one of those, and he got pretty upset when I asked if it was a Monte Carlo under all the bodywork.
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Somebody came to us one day to have a tire changed on one of those, and he got pretty upset when I asked if it was a Monte Carlo under all the bodywork.
Volare owners are known to be touchy about that subject.
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Volare owners are known to be touchy about that subject.
Good thing I didn't ask if it had a rich Corinthian leather interior.
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In defense of the Aztek, it appears that it was a very well made vehicle, gets very high marks from it's owners, and was designed to be very utilitarian... I met a gorgeous young lady at the car wash today who was driving an Aztek and she said it has been one of the best vehicles she has owned.

In looking at so many of the new SUVs on the market it seems that they all have taken some of the same styling cues.

I'd probably hit it if the price was right.

The Pontiac that is.
It was just ahead of its time. At the time I thought it was ugly as sin, but now so many crossovers and small SUVs, including the one I own - a 2012 mitsubishi outlander, look a lot like it. That's not to say I'm proud of my car and the way it looks, but I guess I've gotten used to that style.
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When the '07 CR-V came out, I thought "what in the world is Honda thinking with that nose?"... not realizing that I would end up with a 2009 model in my driveway in 2012.
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When the '07 CR-V came out, I thought "what in the world is Honda thinking with that nose?"... not realizing that I would end up with a 2009 model in my driveway in 2012.
And what were you thinking of?
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And what were you thinking of?
... something to fit the double stroller in and both kids, and both adults?
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Somebody came to us one day to have a tire changed on one of those, and he got pretty upset when I asked if it was a Monte Carlo under all the bodywork.
I'm not surprised. They started life as Pontiacs.
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I have never met an Aztek owner who did not like their vehicle, from the inside... the design does not look as odd now as it did then
That's because Toyota stole it for the Prius...
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... something to fit the double stroller in and both kids, and both adults?
It's funny how "There's no way in hell I'll ever own something gas guzzling and as much a sign of the yuppie suburban death as an suv" becomes "hmm, all that room comes in handy when trying to fit in car seat(s) and kid stuff in the back" when kids are involved.
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It's funny how "There's no way in hell I'll ever own something gas guzzling and as much a sign of the yuppie suburban death as an suv" becomes "hmm, all that room comes in handy when trying to fit in car seat(s) and kid stuff in the back" when kids are involved.
I never objected to the idea of an SUV. My last car was a 2000 Tacoma PreRunner (which I sold in '07). Heck, that CR-V was at the top of my list for when we outgrew the Fit (ask Mrs. A-- I kept a spreadsheet), followed closely by the Subaru Outback and Forester. But Mrs. A is a big fan of the Hondas, so a CR-V it was.
It is our only car as was the Fit, and I still ride a bike everywhere.

That Fit was a great car for two. I did many things (home depot runs, compost hauling) with it I should not have. It was an okay car for three. It was... not 100% adequate for four. I'm surprised we kept it as long as we did (until kid #2 hit 2-3 months). We ordered a double stroller and did the math and realized that it would not physically fit in the Fit. So a-shopping we went. We're too pragmatic for hipster idealism in this house.

But back on-topic... that nose. This is pretty much our car, but with less chrome (ours is an oddball LX FWD with leather):



Let's just say it had several years to grow on me.
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The real world mileage on an Aztec is 19 mpg and with improvements in engine technology and the addition of turbo charging to a lot of current vehicles I can see where the mileage figures for small SUVs have become fairly incredible.

My old Sentra averages over 30 mpg with that driving being a fairly even split between highway and urban driving... straight highway mileage can exceed 40 mpg if I keep my foot off the gas pedal and will drop to the high 30's when I spend all day driving at 75mph.

I would seriously look at a small SUV as a vehicle I could use for camping trips and long road trips as I could sleep in the vehicle quite comfortably and avoid hotel charges.

Mind you, this gets better mileage, will carry 5 people, all their luggage, and still leave sleeping room... my friend consistently sees mileage numbers of 30 mpg on the highway and rarely drops below 25mpg in the city.

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And it is blue and ugly. Blue is faster and something ugly should be fast, so it is hard to hit.
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This monstrosity and its Pontiac cousin...
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This monstrosity and its Pontiac cousin...
I believe a certain administrator of this site had one of these for years. Or at least the previous generation of it.
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And it is blue and ugly. Blue is faster and something ugly should be fast, so it is hard to hit.
The wife and I have been considering buying one in the U.S. before she immigrates... besides serving as a vehicle that would move a lot of her stuff I can use it for work (can you say "write off") and it would serve double duty for camping and for a cross country camping trip we plan to make.

Portland was one of the centres for production... Freightliner produced the Mercedes designed van there for many years and as such, they are abundant and the prices are less than they are here.

They are very nice to drive.
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This thing. It's like they couldn't decide what the roofline should be so they jammed two together.

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