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    Kleptomania

    Here on the other side of the planet were I am from there is this preconceived notion that people in the USA is sued at the drop of a hat.
    If this is indeed the case... how do you handle the problem of kleptomania within a office setup?
    Or is this question not "correct" within the social lexicon?

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    If it's serious, the person should be caught in the act and disciplined. People need to feel safe in their work. If you are just talking about the occasional pen or pencil, I wouldn't sweat it.

    And don't worry about lawsuits as long as everything is done by the book. My ex gave a subordinate an "average" performance review. The subordinate slapped her and the university they worked for with a $1,000,000 law suit. You can't predict people. The final result of the lawsuit was that all charges were dropped and then the university went after the subordinate for the $250,000 in legal fees from the lawsuits, wiping out the subordinate's savings and taking their house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperventilate View Post
    Here on the other side of the planet were I am from there is this preconceived notion that people in the USA is sued at the drop of a hat.
    If this is indeed the case... how do you handle the problem of kleptomania within a office setup?
    Or is this question not "correct" within the social lexicon?
    You can sue anyone for anything. It doesn't mean you'll win.

    In practice, it doesn't happen as often as people think, and when it does, it tends to be in cases where there is an actual need ( fraud, etc. ). The problem of course is that the cases that make the news are reported on solely because they're unusual ( and even then, they're often misunderstood, like the ever-popular "Mcdonald's hot coffee" case which is widely scoffed at by people who don't seem to realize that the victim ended up with severe injuries ).

    As for kleptomania in an office - are you talking about something like a sandwich occasionally disappearing from a break-room refrigerator, or repeated high-value thefts?
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    Excuse me? Somebody steal my lunch and we have a BIG problem!

    They can have the copier, the fax machine and all the pens and pencils they can carry.

    Eat my bologna sandwich and somebody's gonna get sued!

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    Sadly, lawsuits are way to common in the US of A. No one wants to take personal responsibility for their own actions or poor choices, or just the capricious nature of life. Something just happen. There is not always going to be someone else to blame and foot the bill.

    I believe that we should have some sort of governance in place where if a judge or some sort of impartial board can examine a lawsuit and see if it has merit or it is just baseless money chasing. If if is the former, it goes on as written. If it is found to be baseless, it can still go on, but the loser must pay the winner, regardless of who wins. You sue me for a large sum of money, baselessly, and lose, I get a million from you. Would greatly ease the case I load I bet.
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    Here I am not referring to general pilfering of office supplies, lunch or general lay around items. I am talking about about a person that acts like a chipmunk with 10 nuts in its cheeks and still trying to fit in more!

    Maybe I should rephrase my original question: How do one accommodate a person with kleptomania within a office environment?

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    Maybe my question is unfair and I should not press in on you. Maybe I should, just lock her our out one evening and let the lions eat her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperventilate View Post
    Here I am not referring to general pilfering of office supplies, lunch or general lay around items. I am talking about about a person that acts like a chipmunk with 10 nuts in its cheeks and still trying to fit in more!

    Maybe I should rephrase my original question: How do one accommodate a person with kleptomania within a office environment?
    A person who did that wouldn't be accomodated, IMO. They would be summarily fired at the first instance they get caught and escorted out by security if the risk was high enough.
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    Have you spoken to someone in management? If her activities are such that it hurts your or your groups productivity they would be interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperventilate View Post
    Maybe I should rephrase my original question: How do one accommodate a person with kleptomania within a office environment?
    As I said before and mikeybikes also said, you don't accomodate a person with kleptomania.

    You get that person out of your office by layoff, firing or arrest. Just make sure that you have the proper evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mulveyr View Post
    You can sue anyone for anything. It doesn't mean you'll win.

    In practice, it doesn't happen as often as people think, and when it does, it tends to be in cases where there is an actual need ( fraud, etc. ). The problem of course is that the cases that make the news are reported on solely because they're unusual ( and even then, they're often misunderstood, like the ever-popular "Mcdonald's hot coffee" case which is widely scoffed at by people who don't seem to realize that the victim ended up with severe injuries ).

    As for kleptomania in an office - are you talking about something like a sandwich occasionally disappearing from a break-room refrigerator, or repeated high-value thefts?
    Yeah, but there is a certain amount of common sense involved about where one puts a hot cup of coffee...

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    Quote Originally Posted by genec View Post
    Yeah, but there is a certain amount of common sense involved about where one puts a hot cup of coffee...
    Assuming that the coffee is within the heat levels of a normal cup of coffee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genec View Post
    Yeah, but there is a certain amount of common sense involved about where one puts a hot cup of coffee...
    There's also a certain amount of common sense in not handing people liquids in flimsy cups kept at temperatures that will cause immediate severe burns when someone inevitably spills one - especially in a drive-through, with the attendant fumbling that goes along with transferring the item. And definitely when far safer alternatives exist.
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