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Old 04-22-13, 02:09 PM   #1
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American Pit Bulls

My daughter and I have been visiting the local animal shelter looking for a dog to adopt. There is an overwhelming number of Chihuahuas (damn you Paris Hilton and Taco Bell). There is also a large number of Pit Bulls that need to be adopted.

Have any of you here had any personal experience sharing a home with a Pit bull? I know they have a horrible reputation, but once upon a time these dogs were prized as loyal family guardians and loyal pets.

Please let me know the good, the bad and the ugly about Pit bulls.

thank you in advance.

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My former in-laws had a pit bull mix and he was a very sweet dog, but they had raised him from puppyhood. I don't know how a shelter dog with an uncertain background would behave.
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My former in-laws had a pit bull mix and he was a very sweet dog, but they had raised him from puppyhood. I don't know how a shelter dog with an uncertain background would behave.
That is what I worry about. We have an akita that we had since he was a puppy. We have socialized that dog to be around people and to mind his Ps and Qs. Not so sure about a dog who may not have been properly socialized.
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OUCH, that looks painful...sorry you had to deal with that. May I ask the circumstances of the bite?
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Personally I probably wouldn't get one except as a puppy. Almost every time some little kid gets mauled or whatever, the parents say, "It was the sweetest dog, we never saw this coming." Which makes me think they are very unpredictable. I've dealt with ones that were very friendly, but if you did something they didn't like, they weren't afraid to let you know, and they could be pretty vicious. That being said, I'm a lifelong dog lover and owner, so if one came along that seemed particularly sweet and gentle, I would be very tempted. You really just have to gauge your interaction with the dog... And if there's any edginess, it's a no go.

Good on you for adopting from a shelter. Your chances of getting a messed up dog are almost equal when dealing with a breeder or store.
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OUCH, that looks painful...sorry you had to deal with that. May I ask the circumstances of the bite?
I was walking down the street after doing a little shopping. The dog was apparently in the house and pushed thru the screen door, ran out into the street and clamped onto my calf. The owner apologized profusely,sheesh!
It's a beautiful day here but I won't be riding for a bit.
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A dogs temperament is pretty transparent if you have any experience with them. Before adopting any dog spend some time with it and not just 5 minutes. See how it reacts to being touched and played with.

I've had two pits when I was younger and they were great dogs except for Bulls habit of eating anything that fell on the floor. Guess what happens when a dog eats a 64 pack of crayons.
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A dogs temperament is pretty transparent if you have any experience with them. Before adopting any dog spend some time with it and not just 5 minutes. See how it reacts to being touched and played with.

I've had two pits when I was younger and they were great dogs except for Bulls habit of eating anything that fell on the floor. Guess what happens when a dog eats a 64 pack of crayons.
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My cousins had several pit bulls while I was growing up. Great dogs...never had an issue with them.
Sadly, the last one went a little coockoo and attacked a tire....on a moving car. Broke her neck (and popped the tire).
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That is what I worry about. We have an akita that we had since he was a puppy. We have socialized that dog to be around people and to mind his Ps and Qs. Not so sure about a dog who may not have been properly socialized.
Akitas have a rather mixed reputation. A definite danger if you have kids. Not to your kid, to your kid's friends if they ever play rough.

Found that out when trying to figure out the breed of our second dog. Early guesses included being an Akita mix. Turned out he was a Presa Canario. A breed with a bad reputation. An unfair reputation it seems. He was a sweet dog. Never met other Presas, but have had contact with 2 Carne Corsas, which are very similar. Bot also sweet dogs, but powerful. All 3 powerful. Enough to scare some people.

Most Pits I have met are fine, at least around people. Problem to you is IF anything goes wrong then then the presumption will be against you. There was a reason that after we found out Joey was a Presa we still listed him as 'Mixed Breed'.

Side note the person who identified Joey's breed had a friend who was rehabilitating Pits who had been involved in fighting.
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Most Pits I have met are fine, at least around people. Problem to you is IF anything goes wrong then then the presumption will be against you. There was a reason that after we found out Joey was a Presa we still listed him as 'Mixed Breed'.
That's a good point about the presumption, make sure to check your home insurance to see if it has an exclusion for "dangerous" dog breeds.
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I know a couple people involved in the pit bull rescue scene. They both think rescue pit bulls are fine dogs... but neither has kids... I do know that entering one of their houses as a stranger is risky if the owner is not there, but the foster dogs she has are extremely obedient and obey when she tells them not to kill me...
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A dogs temperament is pretty transparent if you have any experience with them. Before adopting any dog spend some time with it and not just 5 minutes. See how it reacts to being touched and played with.

I've had two pits when I was younger and they were great dogs except for Bulls habit of eating anything that fell on the floor. Guess what happens when a dog eats a 64 pack of crayons.
Include feeding also.

Only issues I've had with dogs was food aggression. Sweet the rest of the time, but aggressive if their food is threatened.

A shock compared to our first dog who had none of that. Unreal how he would allow his cat to steal the good treats from his bowl.

And yes I said his cat, he raised it from a kitten. God help you if you hurt his cat.

I really miss our first 2 dogs. They often would play rough enough to scare the **** out of people at the dog park, and I'd just calmly walk right in the middle of it and pet them to calm them down a bit.
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I know a couple people involved in the pit bull rescue scene. They both think rescue pit bulls are fine dogs... but neither has kids... I do know that entering one of their houses as a stranger is risky if the owner is not there, but the foster dogs she has are extremely obedient and obey when she tells them not to kill me...
Thinking more about our first 2. Again sweet dogs. Zero problems with half outsiders like the cleaning lady. She had no problems and no incidents allowing her grandchild ot play with the dogs.

We know a landscape contractor, no problems for him. But some of the guys who worked for him were afraid of dogs. And that can build. The dogs sense it and react, making the person more afraid. Something to think about with large or feared breeds.
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Note that many terriers, APBT's especially, have high prey drive. Meaning they will often chase anything that moves. Ours did.
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Thank you for your posts. Your answers reflect what I had already sensed. It is sad to see a whole breed branded as dangerous because dirtbags decided to use Pits as a status symbol. It is also sad to see so many Chihuahuas in need of adoption because they were once deemed a fashion statement. That idiot Paris Hilton ....

I called my insurance agent and he is going to have the underwriters check into it.

Our Akita is our second Akita. both have been extremely nice dogs, loyal and protective, but also friendly. We raised them from puppyhood, so that may have something to do with it. We also had a Chow chow, another dog with a bad rep, but in China they used Chow Chows to guard the children of the royal family so go figure.

Best dog we ever had, however, was an Aussie. Sweet, loving, intelligent. Her only problem is that she thought our children were cattle for her to herd. It was funny watching her in the backyard, keeping the kids and their friends in line. Sometimes the kids would get the best of her and she would look up to me, exhausted, as if to say "hey buster, these are YOUR kids, you keep them in line!"

Those were good times.
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I was walking down the street after doing a little shopping. The dog was apparently in the house and pushed thru the screen door, ran out into the street and clamped onto my calf. The owner apologized profusely,sheesh!
It's a beautiful day here but I won't be riding for a bit.

I am sorry that you are missing out on riding--good riding days in Ohio are precious (my son goes to school in Ohio). I would be bummed out. I would be mortified if any of my dogs ever bit a cyclist (or a child).

I hope that you heal quickly.
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My parents have an Aussie. Watching it herd the other two dogs from their backyard is hilarious. She used to do it on command if I'd tell her to go get the other dogs, but I haven't seen that in awhile.
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Akita's have a tendency to be dog aggressive so keep an eye on things bringing a new dog home. APB's can be great as companion dogs pending breed lines. An awful lot of breeding has been done to maximize agression. They have been banned here in Ontario.
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Well dogs are pack animals obviously. In a pack situation a Pit Bull will be subservient to its master but the problem is that a Pit Bull may not accept being subservient to anyone else including the children and will use overwhelming force to stake its claim.

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My cousin had two in a row. Very good loyal dogs.
Great with people. Even kids and strangers.

Not so much with other animals. He would kill any animal that came in his yard.
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Akita's have a tendency to be dog aggressive so keep an eye on things bringing a new dog home. APB's can be great as companion dogs pending breed lines. An awful lot of breeding has been done to maximize agression. They have been banned here in Ontario.
We are bringing the Akita to the shelter for a meet and greet.
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I've had one. She was a very sweet dog.
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The difference between my wife and a pit bull?

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A dog's temperament is pretty transparent if you have any experience with them. Before adopting any dog spend some time with it and not just 5 minutes. See how it reacts to being touched and played with.
But you have to get all situations. I had a Jack who was okay in almost all situations. That situation was being around strange dogs who were standing up. He'd be quiet, then too quiet, then release a savage attack. So we kept him on a leash when he was out. Toss a tennis ball and he became a ball-fetching monomaniac.
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