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Old 09-04-13, 05:01 AM   #1
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Slightly OT: Is building models one of your hobbies? Check this out :)

Bike people aren't the only ones with delusions; witness:







Full auction; check out the write-up - and his other items:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-12-tamiya-...#ht_341wt_1037

Now, understand I realize there are lots of varying degrees to which people are talented, so I'm not really crying foul about the seller's performance as a model-builder per-se. But if one is trying to get $300-$500 for his work, the level of said work pretty much has to be top-notch, and this is nowhere near the level required for that kind of money. As for his color choices (and the fact many parts were left unpainted), I don't pretend to know what was going on there

I just saw this today and it hit me that this is the first time I've actually seen a "clueless" seller with regard to my other hobby. Sure, we see it all the time around here, but more often than not I find model builders are better than me - and I'm no slouch, I don't think. Appeals to my sense of detail, I suppose.

Anybody else play with plastic? Feel like sharing? I'll go first if you want...

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Btw, this is what this model looks like when built to a high standard (and even so, don't know if it would fetch 3-500 bucks):



Not mine.

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Yeah, D. Dude. Who ever heard of a "maroon" Ferrari?
I'm certainly not in that high end craftsmanship league either. Here's a 312T I built about 30 years ago. It has seen better days.
And is falling apart. Maybe some day I'll "restore" it.


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Dang - how does one fix the title in one's own thread?

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I don't know. Hmmmm, you modeling, one of my hobbies? I think not.
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Yeah, D. Dude. Who ever heard of a "maroon" Ferrari?
I'm certainly not in that high end craftsmanship league either. Here's a 312T I built about 30 years ago. It has seen better days.
And is falling apart. Maybe some day I'll "restore" it.


THIS is what I mean by workmanship to aspire to

Colors are correct, paint (particularly the bodywork) looks flawless and the attention to detail is superb. How'd you make those tiny zip-ties?

Thanks for sharing!

Here's what I'm currently working on: 1/20 1979 Lotus 79, to be converted to 1978 John Player Special spec:







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I can't remember what I used for those off-white zip ties! Maybe some waxed nylon thread? Jeeze, that was a while ago.
Thanks D. Dude. I did my best but, when I look at a really fine model, I marvel at the level of craftsmanship and professionalism.
It blows my mind. Mostly because I know how hard it is to accomplish. Like this, for example. Some of these Czech guys are GOOD.
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Use the report feature icon asking a moderator to fix your title for you. Nice car, BTW the fork is bent.

Never mind I sent a request to the staff for you.

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My modeling days are long over since college. Frankly, I just did not have the patience and talent to build them to a standard I wanted to (painting/finishing), so many towards the end were left half built in their boxes towards the end of my modeling hobby.....
But then, I discovered 1:18 diecast models in the 90's!
The diecast models leaves the effort of building them to the model manufacturers, and fortunately, China was able to supply the talent and quality control to build them so well that all production of high quality diecast models shifted from Europe to China, plus the lower cost of building them in China made high quality models affordable to many that couldn't afford the "artisan" model prices that Europe was charging for them..
Here's my diecast model Ferrari display with one of may favorites at center stage:

The 312T4 and T2 GP racers were built by Exoto. What is interesting is, many collectors think that Exoto used Tamiya's 1:12 plastic model as a basis to build these diecast models in the 90's
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Chombi: thanks for the "big pic" - everytime I've seen your avatar I've wished to see the rest of the collection

I've been buying a few nostalgic toys on Ebay recently (now that all the bike-related buying has settled down after my latest build was completed), and in the process have been coming across some of these 1/18th scale cars. I'm familiar with the Ferraris from Exoto (big money these days), but not the 442 or the Matra 670 derivatives until the last couple of days. Autoart seems to have put out some great stuff; I've been thinking of pulling the trigger on that #14 Matra, but was wondering: is that curbside or does it have engine detail, too?

I note you have the 1980 RE20, too - I wonder if Tamiya's version was used to execute that one, too?

Super collection you have there!

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Use the report feature icon asking a moderator to fix your title for you. Nice car, BTW the fork is bent.

Never mind I sent a request to the staff for you.

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What's Foo?

I'm not dense (really!), just not up on the lingo, I guess

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Chombi: thanks for the "big pic" - everytime I've seen your avatar I've wished to see the rest of the collection

I've been buying a few nostalgic toys on Ebay recently (now that all the bike-related buying has settled down after my latest build was completed), and in the process have been coming across some of these 1/18th scale cars. I'm familiar with the Ferraris from Exoto (big money these days), but not the 442 or the Matra 670 derivatives until the last couple of days. Autoart seems to have put out some great stuff; I've been thinking of pulling the trigger on that #14 Matra, but was wondering: is that curbside or does it have engine detail, too?

I note you have the 1980 RE20, too - I wonder if Tamiya's version was used to execute that one, too?


Super collection you have there!

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The Matras by Spark are both curbside models, but very good ones. Many in the hobby did not go for them at first but then realized how well made the model is, if you get a good example as sometimes the decal work can be misaligned at the factory. Best thing about them is they cost about half of what full opening/dtailed diecast models of the same scale costs. And if you get models that do not really have to have opening features to see most of the details, like these open cockpit Matras, you wouldn't really miss the engine details that you cannot see on the curbside models. The interiors are good as they put in enough details to cover what is visible.
Spark curbside models are now just as popular as diecast models in the 1:18 collector community and I think you should at least give them a try.
Regarding the Exoto RE20 Renault Turbo V6 GP car model, yes, most suspect that Exoto used the 1:12 Tamiya model as a starting point to design their diecast model. People are sure of this as Exoto seems to have carried over some few slight "deviations" from the 1:1 car that Tamiya made on their model. At least that is the story circulated in the collector community. They must be so slight that I never really noticed what they are....

BTW, the collectors do not like to have their models regarded as "toys". The are "Precision scale replicas, built with noble materials", "Caution!, small parts choking hazard! 18+ years old and geezers only!"
Welcome to the hobby!

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This is Foo! Awesome thread ya'll! Incredible work. I have attempted modeling in both wood and plastic and usually end up curled in the fetal position, whimpering, with bits of my body that should never touch super glued together.
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Oh, I getcha - believe me, I do. My reference to "toys" was regarding the things I've recently plumped for on Ebay. These, I think, more accurately can be described as toys:

1972 1/43 Solido MS 670:



1978 1/14 Bburago Brabham BT48:



Late-60s Corgi Simon Snorkel:



At some point in my life, I played with all of these - so toys they are. Now your collection, of course, is another story entirely...

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I have attempted modeling in both wood and plastic and usually end up curled in the fetal position, whimpering, with bits of my body that should never touch super glued together.
You and Kate Moss.... I guess she can afford more expensive media than wood and plastic.

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What a coincidence!, I actuallly have that same Solido Matra #14 "pontoon" longtail model. I think its 1:43 scale.
That's why I eventually got the 1:18 version from Spark as I waited since the 80's to find a larger model of it. Back then I thought it was just a crazy fantasy that I would eventually find a larger scale model of the car, so it was such a joy when Spark announced they were making it in 1:18 scale a couple of years ago. That's why the motto I share with my collector acquaintances is "If you wait,....they will build it!...".
Still have the small Solido, but I never got to install the decals on it....yet.
That's a very nice Brabham there. I suspect that's a model from the 80's They built lots of models in different scales back then, but I have not run across a 1:14 yet till you shared your pic with us. I only have one Brabham/BMW GP car in my collection. a 1:18 built by Minichamps. Hoping that they would eventually make the one driven by Fittipaldi with the vaccum system that provided downforce.
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Model rockets are the only modeling I ever got into....I don't have any pics, nor surviving models to show off.
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I do not think that changes the thread title. It did not when I was a mod. Changing a thread title, even your own thread title, required the assistance of a moderator, and I believe still does.
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Seems this is correct - thanks, Mods, for correcting it for me

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Used to make the plastic models when I was a kid (elementary school age). Haven't done it since, although I bought some for my son to see if he had an interest to no avail.
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What a coincidence!, I actuallly have that same Solido Matra #14 "pontoon" longtail model. I think its 1:43 scale.
That's why I eventually got the 1:18 version from Spark as I waited since the 80's to find a larger model of it. Back then I thought it was just a crazy fantasy that I would eventually find a larger scale model of the car, so it was such a joy when Spark announced they were making it in 1:18 scale a couple of years ago. That's why the motto I share with my collector acquaintances is "If you wait,....they will build it!...".
Still have the small Solido, but I never got to install the decals on it....yet.
That's a very nice Brabham there. I suspect that's a model from the 80's They built lots of models in different scales back then, but I have not run across a 1:14 yet till you shared your pic with us. I only have one Brabham/BMW GP car in my collection. a 1:18 built by Minichamps. Hoping that they would eventually make the one driven by Fittipaldi with the vaccum system that provided downforce.
Yup, the Solido 670 is a 1/43. I saw another that was mint with loose decals, too (if shipping hadn't cost more than the model...). I think I'm going to pony up for the 1/18 scale Spark #14 . To me, it's an iconic car - love the longtail pontoon section, just as I loved the Le Mans test version of the 1972 Ferrari 312PB (never raced). The longtailed cars were all cool-looking, though none ever won back in the day.

The Bburago 1/14 series were more toy-like; their detail left a lot to be desired when it came to high-end collector stuff, but they were large and fairly accurately represented. And they're nostalgic to me; I have a boxed 1976 312 T2 and 1978 Lotus 79 by Bburago, too, in the same scale. They also did the Tyrrel P34 six-wheeler and the 1980 Ferrari 312 T5.

As for the BT46 "Fan Car", I was lucky enough to find a Fujimi kit in 1/20 scale while in Japan on layover heading home for leave. Models of this car are rare, and I had to add that to my collection, being a big Niki Lauda fan

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