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Old 09-26-13, 10:42 AM   #1
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Disposable electronics... or The battery is more expensive than the device...

I bought a kitchen timer from Target a couple of years ago... cost me 5.99... it is a Taylor product. Well the battery just died, so out I go to get a new one... Finally found it only at Radio Shack (you'd think Target would carry it, but nooooo...). The Shack wants 6.49 for a single LR1130 battery.

I can buy a new kitchen timer, with the included battery for the same price, with tax.

I guess Taylor "gives away" the timer to sell batteries?


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OK the "joke" is Radio Shack... and their 6.49 for one of these batteries... I just noticed Walmart sells Lenmar LR1130 for 2.95. (oddly, they show a picture of a quality Maxell battery....)

Screw "the Shack."
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Can you go somewhere cheaper than Rat Shack?
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You are in San Diego. There is a Fry's. Why in the name of all that is good and holy are you going to Radio Shack?
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You are in San Diego. There is a Fry's. Why in the name of all that is good and holy are you going to Radio Shack?
Much closer than Fry's... I can walk to Rat Shack, Fry's involves a traffic situation.

But none the less, wally world sells cheap button batteries... and they too are closer than Fry's.

Fry's is an odd thing for me... I love going in there and walking up and down the aisles of parts and tools... I hate the lighting, noise and warehouse feel of the place. I really really hate their lighting...
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here is 10 battterys for less then 2 bucks ya may even find em cheaper i ordered 100 battery's for my flashlights cost me 11 bucks for 100 batts.could of got em for 7.50 if i wanted to wait longer http://www.amazon.com/Maxell-Battery...eywords=LR1130
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Much closer than Fry's... I can walk to Rat Shack, Fry's involves a traffic situation.

But none the less, wally world sells cheap button batteries... and they too are closer than Fry's.

Fry's is an odd thing for me... I love going in there and walking up and down the aisles of parts and tools... I hate the lighting, noise and warehouse feel of the place. I really really hate their lighting...
I miss Fry's... *sniff*
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Same with inkjet printers... a new set of inks costs more than the printer did. For a good reason too, the factory supplied ink cartridges are low capacity. I suspect the same is true here: the factory installed battery may be an old, no-brand cheap excuse. Not comparable to what you'd buy yourself.
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Welcome to modern economics. Every once in a while I have to relearn the lesson. Most recently it was with a LED flashlight at work. Some kind of fancy camera like battery. We shopped around found the best price for new batteries. Needed 2, had to buy 3. Total cost ~4 bucks. Probably cost us 3 hours labor total to process this as well.

Next week I'm in Harbor Freights and they are giving away cheap LED flashlights with any purchase. Or you can buy 2 for $1.99.
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Yep, King Gillette was a pioneer at this, sell the razors cheap (or even free) and make the bucks on the blades. Modern economics are just wonderful!
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My first thought on reading the title of the thread was "Must be a Sony."
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I was making sun jars with those solar-powered stake-lights you might push into the ground along a walkway. $2.99 at WalHell. Inside each of those is a rechargeable battery... like you might buy for way more money off the battery stand in the same store, less the weatherproof plastic housing and solar charger...
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Much closer than Fry's... I can walk to Rat Shack, Fry's involves a traffic situation.

But none the less, wally world sells cheap button batteries... and they too are closer than Fry's.

Fry's is an odd thing for me... I love going in there and walking up and down the aisles of parts and tools... I hate the lighting, noise and warehouse feel of the place. I really really hate their lighting...

No need for Fried or rat shack, if you want a battery for your kitchen timer just DIY one out of mud
http://www.instructables.com/id/An-E...ial-Fuel-Cell/
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No need for Fried or rat shack, if you want a battery for your kitchen timer just DIY one out of mud
http://www.instructables.com/id/An-E...ial-Fuel-Cell/

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I was making sun jars with those solar-powered stake-lights you might push into the ground along a walkway. $2.99 at WalHell. Inside each of those is a rechargeable battery... like you might buy for way more money off the battery stand in the same store, less the weatherproof plastic housing and solar charger...
What's a sun jar... I have a bunch of those solar power lights in various degrees of degradation. I keep thinking I want to combine a few of them into some sort of project...

Shoot I bought 8 at Costco the other day and only 6 worked, but it was too much trouble to pack them back into the box to return them.
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What's a sun jar... I have a bunch of those solar power lights in various degrees of degradation. I keep thinking I want to combine a few of them into some sort of project...

Shoot I bought 8 at Costco the other day and only 6 worked, but it was too much trouble to pack them back into the box to return them.

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Made a couple of these. Fun, wicked simple project.
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[h=2]Disposable printers... or The cartridge is more expensive than the device...[/h]ftfy
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Sometimes in stores you have to check the electronic and jewelry departments. Is the LR1130 also used in hearing aides or something? I see them sold in bulk on Amazon. A 10 pack of Maxell brand is $0.63. Eveready was $3.00 with free shipping.
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I think fixing things or designing products to be fixed is becoming a lost concept. I broke the switch on my Shop Vac. Called Shop Vac and was told we can sell you a new top for $70. I took the thing apart and pulled out the switch and Googled the number on the switch. I emailed the company that made them and they said the minimum order was 1000 switches. Hhmm.....don't need quite that many and they said these switches were commonly used in RVs and to check with an RV dealer. Drove a couple miles down the road to an RV dealer and asked about the switch. He looked sort of apologetic when he told me the minimum buy was 3 switches. I asked how much and he said 75 cents. Plugged in a new switch and was back in business.
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My shopvac also has a broken switch, it won't turn off. So I'm using a 12v wireless power switch that came with a surge supressor. Works a treat.
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I think fixing things or designing products to be fixed is becoming a lost concept. I broke the switch on my Shop Vac. Called Shop Vac and was told we can sell you a new top for $70. I took the thing apart and pulled out the switch and Googled the number on the switch. I emailed the company that made them and they said the minimum order was 1000 switches. Hhmm.....don't need quite that many and they said these switches were commonly used in RVs and to check with an RV dealer. Drove a couple miles down the road to an RV dealer and asked about the switch. He looked sort of apologetic when he told me the minimum buy was 3 switches. I asked how much and he said 75 cents. Plugged in a new switch and was back in business.
I still fix things, I love making things better or repairing something... I donno, some sort of odd technician gene in me... I have been this way since I was a kid.

I just fixed the house vacuum cleaner with a 3.99 switch, which frankly I think is vastly under rated for the task. I would put in a huge toggle switch that could handle 16 amps or more, vice the "cute" switch they use. The irony of the "cute" switch is that it is hidden, and you actually actuate the switch with a long rod that runs down the handle and flicks the "cute" switch. Only thing, they designed the rod poorly... so within about a year the rod wouldn't actually switch the switch... so I had to make a change to the rod about 4-5 years ago.

The belts break on this thing on a regular basis... again a design weakness. This is a Hoover vac... should be somewhat well made... with all their experience. However, it is a poor plastic design, destined for obsolescence. I think that is what manufactures have learned over time... make it just good enough to last the warranty, and maybe 30 days longer.

I know that frankly when I am working on a design and see some way to engineer it better in my daily work, those ideas are often shot down as "we don't need to do that..." So we as a company suffer the RMAs and no doubt in the long run, most consumers just don't care (and have the attitude of my wife--"just buy a new one.")

Frankly I want to go back to the days when products were made to last, were made of metal and were made to be fixed... and you could actually get parts... However, we seem to be on a roll with the fashion industry... "look, here is next season's new thing..." Funny how Levis 501s just STAY in fashion, eh?

Regarding the 1000 minimum parts order thing... yeah, no doubt that sucks... I know of several distributors of parts that I have used over the years, and I often order what I need from them. Of course the irony there is that often the shipping costs more than the part itself. I fixed a coffee grinder back about 5 years ago that need a .70 part, but it cost 3.60 to ship. I order 3 of the parts, just in case it failed again.
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ha i just ordered 100 coin cell batterys payed only 5.99 for em all so like a tad over 5 cents a piece
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I think fixing things or designing products to be fixed is becoming a lost concept. I broke the switch on my Shop Vac. Called Shop Vac and was told we can sell you a new top for $70. I took the thing apart and pulled out the switch and Googled the number on the switch. I emailed the company that made them and they said the minimum order was 1000 switches. Hhmm.....don't need quite that many and they said these switches were commonly used in RVs and to check with an RV dealer. Drove a couple miles down the road to an RV dealer and asked about the switch. He looked sort of apologetic when he told me the minimum buy was 3 switches. I asked how much and he said 75 cents. Plugged in a new switch and was back in business.
Similarly, I repaired my Mom's Fellowes brand paper shredder. It had a plastic gear that was shot. I was informed by Fellowes that they do not stock replacement parts for products over 5 years old...about the time most of their customers would need them. I cut out the damaged section and expoxy'd a replacement gear (I made out of scrap metal at work) into where the damaged section was. It lasted another 4 years.
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I noticed a similar thing with Norelco electric shavers. Replacement blades are just $5 than a new shaver.
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