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    My story of yesterday, a cool bicycle and scouting story

    As many of you know, I am a leader in a Cub Scout Pack. Today, I was leading our Bear den in a requirement called Bike Right. In preperation, Ryan and I went to Richardson Bike Mart to get inner tubes and a patch kit, as one of the requirements for this activity was to learn to change or patch an inner tube.

    We went in our Class A uniforms, as we were going straight to the meeting. Within a minute, two guys asked if they could help us. One struck up a conversation with Ryan and found out that Ryan loves gadgets. Before it was over, Ryan was the proud new owner of a Bontrager Rollbar Multi tool. The man that gave it to him is an Eagle Scout and Ryan had to promise to become an Eagle Scout in order to receive the tool

    As we were checking out, the counter guy told Ryan how when he was at IBM, he had to choose between two applicants. One had a degree from an Ivy League school. The other had a degree from a normal school but was an Eagle Scout. The Eagle got the job.

    It was cool to see Ryan learn that the time he spends Scouting is not wasted and it was great for me to see that the boys I invest so much time in grow into men of character who pay back to scouting.

    And the lesson went really well too. The boys got to learn about bike maintenace and they worked together to get a bike tire up to 90 psi, as none of them weighed over 60 lbs. Then we set up an obstacle course and practiced riding skills and hand signals.

    It was a good day.
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    I kind of wonder if we should get our boy into Scouting when the time comes (he's 3.5 now, so not too much longer).

    My parents wouldn't allow it when I was a kid, as according to them it was run by the Mormons. (Let's ignore the fact that my dad was probably using this to cover up for the fact that they wouldn't take me to such things, and perhaps they didn't have the money then.) We all know this isn't true, but you can't tell my dad much. This did not stop me from participating in a Pinewood Derby with the neighbor kids (who were Scouts and not Mormons) one year.
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    The LDS is very strong in scouting, but other religions also have strong ties to scouting.

    Search out a pack for Cub Scouts or a troop for Boy Scouts that you are comfortable with.

    http://www.scouting.org/About/FactSh...ting_orgs.aspx
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
    I kind of wonder if we should get our boy into Scouting when the time comes (he's 3.5 now, so not too much longer).

    My parents wouldn't allow it when I was a kid, as according to them it was run by the Mormons.
    Well, my first scoutmaster was rumored to be gay. He was also an incredible scoutmaster and serving his country in the Coast Guard.
    "He who serves all, best serves himself" Jack London

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    ...we don't do all that much work on kid's bikes at the co-op, probably because
    of our location in Midtown and maybe the strange hours.

    But on Saturday, I had the adventure of fixing a flat on a little Spiderman bike
    from one of the X-marts, and I gotta tell you it was one of the most time consuming
    flat repairs I've ever done. This one was definitely not designed with servicing in
    mind.........I doff my cap to you once again, sir.
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    Great story, Jeff.

    The Scouting experience was great for me and my dad. My son never really bought into the idea. The only thing he liked was the campfires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3alarmer View Post
    But on Saturday, I had the adventure of fixing a flat on a little Spiderman bike
    from one of the X-marts, and I gotta tell you it was one of the most time consuming
    flat repairs I've ever done. This one was definitely not designed with servicing in
    mind.........I doff my cap to you once again, sir.
    I occasionally volunteer at a place that takes in kids bicycles, fixes them up and then redistributes them. Some of those cheap kiddie bicycles are far harder to fix than you might imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
    I kind of wonder if we should get our boy into Scouting when the time comes (he's 3.5 now, so not too much longer).

    My parents wouldn't allow it when I was a kid, as according to them it was run by the Mormons. (Let's ignore the fact that my dad was probably using this to cover up for the fact that they wouldn't take me to such things, and perhaps they didn't have the money then.) We all know this isn't true, but you can't tell my dad much. This did not stop me from participating in a Pinewood Derby with the neighbor kids (who were Scouts and not Mormons) one year.
    Figure out what your kid likes/is interested in. If scouting firs go for it. BUT make sure it is what he wants, not you getting for your kid what you were denied as a kid.

    If you do go into scouting, or anything else for that matter, be involved. Especially early on. Then figure out when to let go.

    I was involved in the YMCA and because they were always short of camp leaders and professional staff moves to advance I ended up working for over a half dozen YMCAs. Each one was different. Some different enough to be different worlds. If the scouts have half the variation it means one pack could be great for your kid and another half way to hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith99 View Post
    Figure out what your kid likes/is interested in. If scouting firs go for it. BUT make sure it is what he wants, not you getting for your kid what you were denied as a kid.

    If you do go into scouting, or anything else for that matter, be involved. Especially early on. Then figure out when to let go.

    I was involved in the YMCA and because they were always short of camp leaders and professional staff moves to advance I ended up working for over a half dozen YMCAs. Each one was different. Some different enough to be different worlds. If the scouts have half the variation it means one pack could be great for your kid and another half way to hell.
    Lord Baden Powell said that scouting was "fun with a purpose". I think that young men and boys can learn life lessons anywhere from the classroom, to the sports arena and the campground, but they learn the most at home from mom and dad.

    Scouting, especially Cub Scouting is designed for the whole family. It is time that you get to spend with your son, doing things that he can carry with him through life. The Cub Scout motto is Do Your Best. This means that if you as a parent, or his leader, or Cub Master feels he has done his best, even though he may not have completed a task perfectly, he still receives the patch, or pin or beltloop for that activity. Boys learn about their community, and service and faith amongst other things. Some packs put less emphasis on faith, others more. Each year, the boys take part in an event called Scouting for Food. Our local scout district and council is the single largest one day contributor to the North Texas Community of Food banks. It is pretty cool to see truck upon truck filled with food that the boys collect and count and sort.

    I agree with Keith. Take some time while your son is in kindergarten to visit the cub scout packs in your area. Go to BeAScout.org to find them. Also, remember that Cub Scouts is designed to be parent led and parent driven due to the age of the boys in first to 5th grade. Boy Scouts is designed to be boy led and adult supervised, with very little parent involvement.

    Feel free to send me a PM if you have questions about scouting. I will do my best to answer them, but the way I run my pack my differ from the packs in your area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3alarmer View Post
    ...we don't do all that much work on kid's bikes at the co-op, probably because
    of our location in Midtown and maybe the strange hours.

    But on Saturday, I had the adventure of fixing a flat on a little Spiderman bike
    from one of the X-marts, and I gotta tell you it was one of the most time consuming
    flat repairs I've ever done. This one was definitely not designed with servicing in
    mind.........I doff my cap to you once again, sir.
    12 Inch rim? They can be the devil incarnate to get those tires on and off. There's very little extra to work with. I've seen one that needed 2 people to get the tire off. When we get one at my shop, and it needs a new tube, you can hear lots of rude words.

    My son is an Eagle Scout, it has paid him back. Scouting taught him many things that he couldn't learn at school, or at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith99 View Post
    If the scouts have half the variation it means one pack could be great for your kid and another half way to hell.
    That was similar to my experience of the scouts. My first troop had almost military-like discipline, meetings were started in formation at attention. The scoutmasters were in their 20s. We went camping at least once a month. The scoutmaster expected a lot. One match to start your fire or you did the walk of shame to him to explain why you couldn't make a fire properly. There was also a lot of field work during the camping trips on plant identification, pitching tents, axe and knife sharpening and use, long hikes and navigation. Weekly meetings focused more on generic skills like knot tying, signaling etc. It was out of a Methodist church.

    And my Mom moved. The second troop was out of a Presbyterian church. The scoutmasters were in their 50s and 60s. Mostly they did drills on stuff like semaphore and knots. I remember one 5 mile hike, a car wash, and passing out Goodwill bags and then a week later going back to collect them after they had been filled. I don't remember a single camping trip. I was on the verge of quitting when I got sent to prep school and had a valid reason to leave. But just having been in the scouts was why my grandfather saw enough potential in me that he paid for tuition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
    I kind of wonder if we should get our boy into Scouting when the time comes (he's 3.5 now, so not too much longer).

    My parents wouldn't allow it when I was a kid, as according to them it was run by the Mormons. (Let's ignore the fact that my dad was probably using this to cover up for the fact that they wouldn't take me to such things, and perhaps they didn't have the money then.) We all know this isn't true, but you can't tell my dad much. This did not stop me from participating in a Pinewood Derby with the neighbor kids (who were Scouts and not Mormons) one year.

    Could have been worse. It could have been run by morons.

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