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Old 10-18-13, 04:41 PM   #26
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Go to KEH you can get an excellent dslr that's just a couple years old at a big discount.
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Go to KEH you can get an excellent dslr that's just a couple years old at a big discount.
I love KEH.
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In the era of posting video to the Internet directly from your smart phone, a DSLR is a significant downgrade in user friendliness, and you shouldn't get one unless you really have a calling to take high quality photographs for printing. If you just want to share photos online, forget it.
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mirrorless has been unable to meet my AF needs in the real world... which is why my last DSLR have been Canon1D series and Nikon D3's.
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I love KEH.
Me, too. Great customer service all over. Buy sell whatever.
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How do y'all feel about the micro four-thirds format cameras?
I got the Olympus OM-D. Much more compact than my old EOS. Get a bit more out of the long lenses (the 300mm is an effective 600m in the old 35mm frame). Still learning the ropes with the modes though. Takes very good video.
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In the era of posting video to the Internet directly from your smart phone, a DSLR is a significant downgrade in user friendliness, and you shouldn't get one unless you really have a calling to take high quality photographs for printing. If you just want to share photos online, forget it.
most people who are buying a high end DSLR are not instagramers. we're photographers. we don't care about clicking a shot and immediately uploading it to facebook.
we take our images in RAW, bring them home, put them through an image processor to edit, crop, tweak, and then the final product is shared or sold.
its not about it being not user friendly, it's about it being a tool for a photographer. someone who knows how to use the tool properly.
if you're going to buy an expensive DSLR just to point and shoot with it on Auto the whole time - you just wasted $1500.
sorry for the rant.
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I do shoot professionally and use Nikon gear, but both Nikon and Canon are excellent in that price range. Current shot with a D7000, which with the price reduction when the D7100 was introduced, may be in your pricerange without an additional lens. The D5200 definitely will be and has the same sensor as the D7000, in a slightly smaller body (and some deleted features.) Likewise, the D5300 was just introduced this week may also be in your price range, as I haven't checked to see if it took the D5200 price slot with a reduction in the D5200. I am about to go full frame (D800) and while the D7000 will become backup (like my D90 is now) seriously considering selling the whole lot for a mirrorless camera to serve as a backup, as adapters are made to accept Nikon lens. At any rate, do plan to get a mirrorless for my wife for Christmas, upgrading her P&S, and she demands a viewfinder.

Among the mirrorless with a viewfinder, the best one that looks like a small DSLR, Olympus OMD, is above your price target. (Actually, the DSLR's above are cheaper). Panasonic does make 2 SLR style models, and I got a great 2 lens kit for $500 from Costco (G?-5 model) but was too large for wife. That takes me to the rangefinder style camera. Most do not have an electronic viewfinder, but a few have an attachable viewfinder - Olympus E-PM2 and E-PL5, Sony NEX5 are examples. Just a couple have built in electronic viewfinders. Specifically, the Sony NEX6, which has the same sensor as my Nikon D7000 (Sony makes them for Nikon), and the just released Panasonic GX7 and on pre-order. Fuji makes an excellent line as well but, while their lens are excellent, they are expensive. Notably don't recommend the Nikon 1 V2 as it is grossly overpriced - and this coming from a Nikon guy.

Where to buy? Most prices are controlled by the manufacturer and are the same everywhere. If you see a significant reduction from a little known retailer, be careful. Probably a gray market and not covered by warranty, and by the time they offer their 3rd party warranty,cheaper to buy with factory warranty. Plus, NikonUSA in particular has been withholding critical parts from 3rd party repair outlets, so it may not be repairable as NikonUSA won't repair - even if you pay - gray market units.
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Old 10-19-13, 06:18 AM   #34
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I'm a fan of Sigma cameras and lenses. For me, the image quality topped all others. Good luck with your purchase.
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mirrorless has been unable to meet my AF needs in the real world... which is why my last DSLR have been Canon1D series and Nikon D3's.
If autofocus is your concern on any non dslr camera, you should seriously consider a Panasonic. They have one of the fastest auto focus set ups I have seen. Granted, it doesn't always focus on what I want, but my latest one has a touch screen and I can change focus via that. My Panasonic long zoom turned out some good images, as has my gx1.
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I'm partial to Canon's gear if you are set on a DSLR, but the new mirrorless setups are worth looking into and playing with some to see if that is a direction you'd want to go. My suggestion, try to find a very lightly used Canon T3i on Craigslist for a decent price, work with that for a while, if you decide to go a different direction in 6months then you should be able to resell it for close to what you'll have in it.
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The P&S Pentax (Optio 43 WR) I got, was a failing disappointment ..

would I be able to use the lenses from my 35mm MX cameras on their DSLR?
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Old 10-19-13, 02:46 PM   #38
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DSLM's have interchangeable lenses.
Oh, okay, I guess I was confused with another variety of camera. But now that I am clear, I may look at those too. thanks.
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The P&S Pentax (Optio 43 WR) I got, was a failing disappointment ..

would I be able to use the lenses from my 35mm MX cameras on their DSLR?
all pentax dSLRs accept all legacy pentax glass. you may need an adapter though for some.
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Mrs A. Has a Nikon D5000. It is too fussy and precious for me.

The problem with the D5000's electronic viewfinder is that it uses a different AF system than looking through the peephole. So you are almost guaranteed crappy pics with the electronic viewfinder.
May just be one of those preference things, but I can't see why someone would compose using the screen versus the standard window. You can't really get a good idea of what you're shooting if you don't have the camera close to your face, IMO.

I have a D5000 and love it, but there are lots of good cameras at that price point too. The main question is whether or not you want video capabilities built in. Personally, I didn't care about that, so the D5000 works great for me, but others like shooting video and stills with the same camera.
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Old 10-20-13, 07:47 AM   #41
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The screen is handy for macro (with image magnification to get the focus right) and when you need to take a shot over a high obstruction or have the camera low to the ground on a tripod, provided the sun isn't too bright. Otherwise the viewfinder is much better.
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The screen comes in handy when hooked up to the tripod, when you're shooting way down low or holding above your head for a different perspective (swing out swivel screens such as the Canon T#i series and 60/70D, etc.), and when you are shooting in near darkness. The screen can pump up the sensitivity so you can actually see the framing where you may not be able to through the view finder.
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Well I went to Best buy last night to browse what's available from them, they had squat for compact cameras. Maybe it was just that one store, but all they had was one canon mirror less, 6 dslr's and a bunch of point and shoots. So maybe best buy doesn't think mirror-less cameras are worth selling.
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Best Buy's on the ropes.

Amazon is eating their lunch and dinner.
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Here's a couple (O.K. three) of interesting websites for reviews:

http://digital-photography-school.com/

http://www.dpreview.com/

http://www.steves-digicams.com/
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you have to rememebr stores like Best Buy cater to the lowest common denominator. People who know anything about photography will not be buying a camera there. Also the people that will be helping you won't be able to tell you much beyond what the tag says. They aren't trained photographers. THey're teenage sales associates. You need to find a local camera shop. Even a ritz/wolf is better (but not by much) than Best Buy.
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Ritz/Wolf is beyond being on the ropes.
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Digital (and the internet) killed the local retail camera business.

The few survivors are worth looking into simply because they survived.
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First, avoid the Canon mirorless. That was their first model with significant issues. The have aggressively reduced the price pending the release of two new models which may or may not be marketed in the USA.

Yes, Best Buy's selection of mirrorless is the pits. No selection as they have slowly eliminated their Olympus line. Sony NEX is about the only one remaining. Panasonic? Wouldn't blame Best Buy as it may be a Panasonic issue - limiting their models above P&S to internet only (plus the B&M stores of the internet - such as B&H, and Adorama). Our local camera store has been trying to expand to carry the line but Panasonic won't cooperate. It doesn't seem to be part of their business model. About the only reason to purchase from BB is their rewards program, and potentially extended return period - with most models available through their marketplace online.

Best to go to a real camera store. Didn't see an in Venice, Sarasota or Naples - but I could be wrong. However, there appears to be one in Tampa, and another in Bradenton, plus 2 that I frequent in Orlando. Across the State, most major cities from Delray Beach south to Miami have at least one store.
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Well I'm not sure what I want to do yet, some of the thing I like to photograph are landscapes and wildlife. Sometimes my little Nikon point and shoot take really good pictures of those things, and sometimes the look like garbage. Here are a couple from yesterday at a local state park.

This what I consider a pretty good landscape:


This is a not too bad close up:


This seem to be the best landscape of the day:


Here is what I call a so so of a deer through some trees:


I just wish more of my pictures would come out a more like these. Perhaps I need a better camera and learn how to use it better. I always try to not use the auto setting on the point and shoot, Sometimes I have to guess at which mode to be in. And I try not to use the digital zoom, it tend to make the pictures look worse.
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