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    Vespa 50cc vs. 150cc

    Dead set on a Vespa vs other companies. I only want it for city riding. Would the 50cc be ok or should I look into the 150cc....price is 1k more though

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    when i was a kid i had a 50 cc moped it did fine plus got like 100 mpg

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    hilly = 150cc

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    Here 50 cc's or less don't require a license or insurance, over requires both. Might be worthwhile to check your area.

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    The extra cc would give more of a fighting chance against aholes.

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    A Vespa is the creme de la creme of scooters, for sure.
    I dont own a Vespa, but I do have a 50cc two-stroke scooter. Its derestricted so I can get 40mph out it when necessary, but more importantly, it is soooooo much fun to ride! By utilizing momentum and riding smart, I totally own city traffic. The lack of engine size is no big deal. I think if the Vespa you want is the 2-stroke version, you could be very happy with it. But, as mentioned, you will be able to go more places safely with the 150. You cant really go wrong with either.
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    The 150 will take you more places and allow you to ride safely in higher speed zones...

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    Well you said you want it for city driving. What are the speed limits in your city or cities where you want to drive it? If you want to drive it in areas where the speed limit is over 35 I would opt for the 150cc. Around here the speed limit is 45 in a lot of areas and I see 50cc scooters trying to ride on those areas and because they can't even reach the 45 mph speed limit they are seriously putting themselves in danger.
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    I used to ride 100 to 125cc motorcycles. The performance of a 100cc MANUAL motorcycle is adequate without being particularly fast. A 50cc motorcycle doesn't pass the "adequate" test unless you are really riding in low speed intercity traffic. If its LOW SPEED inner city only then the 50cc bike should do the job but for anything more get the 150cc.

    EDIT: I used to get 60 mph out of the standard performance 100cc motorcycles I had. I had a high performance 125cc that could do 80mph flat out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyG View Post
    I used to ride 100 to 125cc motorcycles. The performance of a 100cc MANUAL motorcycle is adequate without being particularly fast. A 50cc motorcycle doesn't pass the "adequate" test unless you are really riding in low speed intercity traffic. If its LOW SPEED inner city only then the 50cc bike should do the job but for anything more get the 150cc.

    EDIT: I used to get 60 mph out of the standard performance 100cc motorcycles I had. I had a high performance 125cc that could do 80mph flat out.

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    The guy that lives across the street from me has a 150cc scooter, he told me it will cruise at 50 mph all day long.
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    How much will rider weight be a factor? what happens when you add a friend to the back? I'd say 150.

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    You could take road trips on a 150cc scooter... 50cc is pretty limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    You could take road trips on a 150cc scooter... 50cc is pretty limited.
    Yeah and it could be an inexpensive road trip, my neighbor told me he gets about 80 mpg on his. strap a tent, sleeping bag and mat to the back and do some scooter touring. I have read a few journals of people that have done it.
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    See how this sounds when you say it to yourself: "I wish I didn't have so much power."

    There is such a quantity but 150cc is below it unless you're delivering pizzas in the city center.

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    Personally if I was buying a scooter I'd buy one of these honda silverwings
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeguyinvenice View Post
    Personally if I was buying a scooter I'd buy one of these honda silverwings

    I have the Suziki counterpart to that, the Burgman, and they are great cruising machines but in an urban setting, a small scooter is much more fun/maneuverable.
    The big ones take up as much space as a small car for all intents and purposes and cant be tossed through traffic like a small one
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=(8)=- View Post
    I have the Suziki counterpart to that, the Burgman, and they are great cruising machines but in an urban setting, a small scooter is much more fun/maneuverable.
    The big ones take up as much space as a small car for all intents and purposes and cant be tossed through traffic like a small one
    Well I've never ridden a scooter at all, I had a moped when I was a kid, but it had bike wheels and tires unlike most scooters. It wouldn't do more than 45, but great for around town. I am not a scooter guy, if I was buying something for touring, I'd buy a v stom. For around town and short trips on the highway, I'll stick with my ninja 250 for now, it gets 60 mpg around town and can cruise on the highway at 80 mph all day long.
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    It depends, do you want to avoid ending up as roadkill? If so, skip the 50cc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no motor? View Post
    It depends, do you want to avoid ending up as roadkill? If so, skip the 50cc.
    Yeah, get a bicycle instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhchdh View Post
    Yeah, get a bicycle instead.
    Doubtful the op can ride a bicycle as fast as he could ride a 50 cc scooter. So a scooter might meet his motorized vehicle needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by overthehillmedi View Post
    Here 50 cc's or less don't require a license or insurance, over requires both. Might be worthwhile to check your area.
    It is the same here, which is why all of the students ride cheap Chinese knockoff scooters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
    It is the same here, which is why all of the students ride cheap Chinese knockoff scooters.
    The west coast of Florida is the cheap Chinese scooter knockoff capital of the world. I see so many of them it's really ridiculous. And the number of them have increased in the last few years, probably since the financial meltdown of 2008.
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    A 150 will allow you to go further quicker and still return phenonamal gas mileage but truth be told I've never had more fun than on a little ysr50 on a track.
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    Now that I know that that is the rule here, I secretly want to find something like a Honda Trail 110, but in the 50cc size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no motor? View Post
    It depends, do you want to avoid ending up as roadkill? If so, skip the 50cc.
    What rubbish! I've been riding a Honda Ruckus for three years now without any issue. Yes it's slower than some cars in some streets but nothing unmanageable. Only way you will end up road kill is if you ride on the Freeway. usually during rush hour the cars are going at your speed. When it's not rush hour as long as you stay in the right lane; the left lanes are always free for the cars to go around you.

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