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    Amazon Prime Air: How cool is this?!?!

    Drone package delivery service, coming in '15 (fingers crossed!).

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    Fox News just had a segment on that story, interesting, but there seems to be a lot of issues that need to be addressed.
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    I thought Skynet was supposed to be an Airforce experiment gone awry, not a commercial enterprise.

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    How long before the FAA steps in and shuts this idea down? It is cool, but I want deliveries beamed to the entry hall table. Someone get working on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdon View Post
    How long before the FAA steps in and shuts this idea down? It is cool, but I want deliveries beamed to the entry hall table. Someone get working on that.
    Well the FAA does have the right to stop the idea if it can prove that the technology isn't ready yet. But I do believe that someday probably not that far into the future the idea will work. I can see dozens of drones spreading out from a central hub dropping packages across the city then returning to pick up another package with new coordinates to drop the new package at. Pretty cool idea really. But like I said there are issues that will have to be worked out. Right now any yahoo can buy a remote control drone and fly it around the neighborhood taking video of whatever happens to be in range. I find that more disturbing than Amazon operating a fleet of package dropping drones.
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    I wonder what happens when someone decides they look like clay pigeons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    I wonder what happens when someone decides they look like clay pigeons?
    That was one thing I was wondering as well. And what happens it it suffers a mechanical failure and falls from a couple hundred feet and lands on someones head?
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    What do you do with the plastic shipping box? I'm guessing it would be recycled back to Amazon somehow.

    How does the thing know where to land on your property? Google maps never has my address correct; it shows me as living in a house down the street. I'd hope Amazon would use something a bit more accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CbadRider View Post
    How does the thing know where to land on your property?
    They're bringing in retired paperboys to control the drones. That plastic box will end up under your car, in the bushes or through your front window.

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    I bet that Amazon will gladly sell you an Amazon PrimeAir Helipad that you position in a secure location of your choosing and the drone homes in on it. Of course, all data from the drones will be shared with the NSA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    I thought Skynet was supposed to be an Airforce experiment gone awry, not a commercial enterprise.
    I keep extrapolating the drone thing with negative results.....I am neither paranoid or a conspiracy nut

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    I bet that Amazon will gladly sell you an Amazon PrimeAir Helipad that you position in a secure location of your choosing and the drone homes in on it. Of course, all data from the drones will be shared with the NSA.
    I would have to throw my neighbours on his roof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    I thought Skynet was supposed to be an Airforce experiment gone awry, not a crackerjab enterprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdon View Post
    How long before the FAA steps in and shuts this idea down? It is cool, but I want deliveries beamed to the entry hall table. Someone get working on that.
    I thought this was a joke when I saw it, but evidently it's not. I'd want my stuff delivered where the cats couldn't get it, they better beam mine into the oven.

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    Conspiracy theory time : Someone acquires a Amazon delivery box, from a prior order, fills it with chemical agent or virus or IED. Gets hold of a remote controlled drone. Delivers the said chemical agent to a Government facility. Minimum wage employee takes Amazon delivery box and brings it into the building, where he opens the box and contaminatres the entire building, or activates the IED killing some employees. This is just a possible scenerio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiBikeGuy View Post
    Conspiracy theory time : Someone acquires a Amazon delivery box, from a prior order, fills it with chemical agent or virus or IED. Gets hold of a remote controlled drone. Delivers the said chemical agent to a Government facility. Minimum wage employee takes Amazon delivery box and brings it into the building, where he opens the box and contaminatres the entire building, or activates the IED killing some employees. This is just a possible scenerio.
    Too elaborate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiBikeGuy View Post
    Conspiracy theory time : Someone acquires a Amazon delivery box, from a prior order, fills it with chemical agent or virus or IED. Gets hold of a remote controlled drone. Delivers the said chemical agent to a Government facility. Minimum wage employee takes Amazon delivery box and brings it into the building, where he opens the box and contaminatres the entire building, or activates the IED killing some employees. This is just a possible scenerio.
    There are way easier ways to contaminate a building or kill some people with an IED. Heck just use the regular U.S. postal service they did it with anthrax.
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    If I pull out the goose shotgun and get five of these things, do I achieve ace status? And do I get to keep what I shoot down under salvage rights?
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    In due time, will a personal fighting drone replace the *******?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will G View Post
    If I pull out the goose shotgun and get five of these things, do I achieve ace status? And do I get to keep what I shoot down under salvage rights?
    No you don't get to keep the stuff and you don't get ace status, but you might get a letter from amazons army of lawyers after they use the gps transmitter that would be on board to track down the drones last location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeguyinvenice View Post
    Well the FAA does have the right to stop the idea if it can prove that the technology isn't ready yet. But I do believe that someday probably not that far into the future the idea will work. I can see dozens of drones spreading out from a central hub dropping packages across the city then returning to pick up another package with new coordinates to drop the new package at. Pretty cool idea really. But like I said there are issues that will have to be worked out. Right now any yahoo can buy a remote control drone and fly it around the neighborhood taking video of whatever happens to be in range. I find that more disturbing than Amazon operating a fleet of package dropping drones.
    And all this comes as the FAA is being forced by Congress to write rules for commercial applications after an outright ban, permitting only hobbyist use. Essentially, the FAA controls all airspace, irrespective of altitude. As a hobbyist I can mount a GoPro on a helicopter, but I can't take the footage and use it in a real estate video, which would be of huge interest to me both as a Realtor and my separate business as a photographer where I shoot houses for other realtors. Complicating it are not only long range pilotless like Amazon, but short range (and low altitude) RC with ongoing reports like the guy that beheaded himself, the drone stuck on a building and wanting the city to retrieve off the courthouse dome, and of course multiple YouTube videos like the drone flying into the wedding party.

    Some of the rumors of regulations as somewhat problematic, like having a full helicopter license to operate. Also little talk of insurance which responsible businesses would have (unlike the dude filming the courthouse) and only increases the cost of doing business. To gain a competitive edge many will ignore training/certification and insurance. How many "photographers" that hold themselves out for hire have a business license and liability insurance, as many that I compete with don't have training, just some guy with a camera. Then States will get into the regulatory act as well. Arguably, California started the banning after pressure from the movie industry to protect jobs, not only helicopter pilots on actions sequences, but the ground based crane operators. New Hampshire had the most draconian banning video and photography that "invaded other's privacy" and eventually had to repeal or amend it. While I typically raise my camera up on my 18' pole for an ariel/birdeye view of a home, it would be banned in New Hampshire because it shows the neighbor's property as well.
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    glad someone already beat me to skynet jokes.
    the plots of terminator are pretty much coming together.
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    An interviewee on NPR suggested a GPS landing pad at your home to assist the drones: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...could-go-wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeybikes View Post
    An interviewee on NPR suggested a GPS landing pad at your home to assist the drones: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...could-go-wrong
    So if you want your package delivered by an autonomous amazon drone you need to pay for a gps marked landing pad? No thanks, I will just wait for UPS to deliver my package.
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