Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 32

Thread: iPad vs Mini

  1. #1
    Senior Member Will G's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Granbury, Texas
    Posts
    703
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    iPad vs Mini

    Going to buy an iPad or mini and androids aren't really an option due to limited aviation apps. Anyone out there have experience using both that could weigh in with an opinion? I'm leaning towards the mini due to the limited space in a Cessna but wondering if the screen size is big enough for other use.
    Flying a jet is no different than riding a bicycle. It's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

  2. #2
    Senior Member bikebuddha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Somewhere in time
    Posts
    1,109
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    It is but I would advise getting one of the new ones with the retina display. Much easier to read charts on,
    The few, the proud, the likely insane, Metro-Atlanta bicycle commuters.

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    670
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The retina's are very nice, but you can get a 16gig Mini WiFi only for $260 if you happen to be near a MicroCenter computer store. That's a hard to beat price and is close to the prices for decent Android units.

    That said and as an owner of a Mini, the display on the retina is worth the money.

    SB

  4. #4
    bill nyecycles the sci guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Houston TX
    Posts
    1,180
    Mentioned
    12 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Mini w/ Retina FTW.
    I don't have one, but when I do get one, that's the one I'll get. Small enough to use with one hand, but large enough to see things clearly.

    Right now we have a 1st generation iPad. Thing feels huge and heavy. When I pick up the Minis in the Apple store it's like I'm picking up a sheet of paper.
    Twitter@theSurlyBiker

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    8,434
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The iPad air is not that much bigger overall (or heavier) than the mini. Retina is going to be useful for maps. The larger screen lets you see stuff on the screen farther away.

    Create cardbord mock-ups of the two sizes to see how they work.

  6. #6
    Why not? EthanYQX's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Canada
    My Bikes
    Giant STP 2
    Posts
    845
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Go for the retina display and the big one, IMHO.

    For controllers in Canada, our training stuff is on iPad 2's now, and it's very difficult to read charts, frequencies, fixes, etc. without zooming way in.

    kind of related, what apps are you wanting to use?
    Last edited by EthanYQX; 12-10-13 at 07:25 PM.
    "It is not the critic who counts."

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Irving, TX
    My Bikes
    Schwinn Paramount
    Posts
    345
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    How old are you and how good are your eyes?
    How will you carry it?

    I have an Ipad2 (full size, non-retina display) I like it just fine and to me it is not too big. I carry it in my briefcase very easily, I even have a small shoulder camera bag that carries my DSLR and ipad at the same time. If I was trying to carry it in a purse it would be too big (but I don't carry purses). If I was a student trying to carry it in a backpack I'm not sure how that would work, maybe it would be ok or maybe I would prefer the mini.

    When I am actually using it, I don't think it is too big and I wouldn't mind if it was even a touch bigger. I think the mini would be harder for me to read.

    YMMV.

  8. #8
    Senior Member Will G's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Granbury, Texas
    Posts
    703
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Probably going to use Garmin Pilot or Foreflight in small General Aviation aircraft. I've flown commercially and privately with an iPad 2.
    Flying a jet is no different than riding a bicycle. It's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

  9. #9
    Why not? EthanYQX's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Canada
    My Bikes
    Giant STP 2
    Posts
    845
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Your eyes must be a lot better than mine, lol. I can't see a damn thing on my iPad 2.
    "It is not the critic who counts."

  10. #10
    AEO
    AEO is offline
    Senior Member AEO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    A Coffin Called Earth. or Toronto, ON
    My Bikes
    Bianchi, Miyata, Dahon, Rossin
    Posts
    12,245
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    mini with retina is best, unless you are farsighted. Then the bigger one makes sense.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
    http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm

  11. #11
    Senior Member Will G's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Granbury, Texas
    Posts
    703
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Near vision is still good, distant vision requires glasses. I do miss the days of 20/15 vision. Leaning towards the mini. Reviews on the apps recommend 32GB for chart storage and updates plus 3G for the internal GPS.
    Flying a jet is no different than riding a bicycle. It's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

  12. #12
    Senior Member jdon's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    4,157
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Will G View Post
    Going to buy an iPad or mini and androids aren't really an option due to limited aviation apps. Anyone out there have experience using both that could weigh in with an opinion? I'm leaning towards the mini due to the limited space in a Cessna but wondering if the screen size is big enough for other use.
    Yeah, I carry a mini with me in the front end. I had it tested for depressurization up to 50,000 ft so Transport Canada is happy with it as an EFB. Contains flight ops library and I have worldwide Jepps on it. Bought a suction mount so it can be attached to a window out of the way. It is just a back up to the aircraft file server driven EFB's on the MFD's but it is nice to have for reference.

    I find it big enough for everything else I use it for.

    With Garmin Pilot, you will be impressed with ADS-B.
    Quote Originally Posted by maddmaxx View Post
    How are you ever going to live in the real world if you can't get along with people who don't believe what your do?

  13. #13
    Senior Member Will G's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Granbury, Texas
    Posts
    703
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jdon View Post
    Yeah, I carry a mini with me in the front end. I had it tested for depressurization up to 50,000 ft so Transport Canada is happy with it as an EFB. Contains flight ops library and I have worldwide Jepps on it. Bought a suction mount so it can be attached to a window out of the way. It is just a back up to the aircraft file server driven EFB's on the MFD's but it is nice to have for reference.

    I find it big enough for everything else I use it for.
    What else do you use it for? Any of that difficult to do with the mini vs the full size iPad?
    Flying a jet is no different than riding a bicycle. It's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

  14. #14
    Senior Member jdon's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    4,157
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Will G View Post
    What else do you use it for? Any of that difficult to do with the mini vs the full size iPad?
    If I don't feel like carrying a laptop, I use it to get online, waste time on BF , Netflix and as a reader and music source. I don't find the size difficult. I have to wear reading glasses for everything so don't notice a difference with the mini. I have an iPad 2 but find it too big for the cockpit.
    Quote Originally Posted by maddmaxx View Post
    How are you ever going to live in the real world if you can't get along with people who don't believe what your do?

  15. #15
    on by skijor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Wisconsin
    My Bikes
    Waterford RS-33, Salsa Vaya, Vision R40, Bacchetta Giro 20 ATT
    Posts
    883
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Even after the recent Nexus 7 thread, I decided to go with the mini RD. Two big reasons, it will link with my imac, and more importantly, its OS is more stable. Granted, android isn't bad. But I have had some issues with my android phone. In nearly four years with my imac, I have had none. (Granted anything would be an improvement over MS...never again)
    After one week with the mini, I believe I made the right choice. I do wear cheaters for most reading, including with the mini. But I likely would if I had got a full size tablet too.
    I do like the mini's size even though, as has been mentioned, the ipad air is very nearly the same weight.

  16. #16
    Senior Member bikebuddha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Somewhere in time
    Posts
    1,109
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by skijor View Post
    Even after the recent Nexus 7 thread, I decided to go with the mini RD. Two big reasons, it will link with my imac, and more importantly, its OS is more stable. Granted, android isn't bad. But I have had some issues with my android phone. In nearly four years with my imac, I have had none. (Granted anything would be an improvement over MS...never again)
    After one week with the mini, I believe I made the right choice. I do wear cheaters for most reading, including with the mini. But I likely would if I had got a full size tablet too.
    I do like the mini's size even though, as has been mentioned, the ipad air is very nearly the same weight.
    What kind of android phone did you have, I've found problems with every custom android I've used and absolutely zero using pure android on a Nexus device.
    The few, the proud, the likely insane, Metro-Atlanta bicycle commuters.

  17. #17
    derailleurs are overrated bigbenaugust's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    KIGX
    My Bikes
    2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, 2012 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno SSCX
    Posts
    1,727
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    We have a mini at home and size is not an issue at all. We got it as a gift... actually, someone got it for our kids and it got commandeered. While I would love to get a PPL and fly with it, I have only used it in the back of a few Southwest and Delta flights so far for messing around with the kids. But even for general usage, the size is fine. In fact, it makes the regular iPad seem just excessively large whenever I see one.

    If it were my money (and I am not a pilot), I would have not bought an iPad, especially with the kids around. The thing is too precious.
    --Ben
    Carrboro Bike Coalition - putting the "bike" in "CARrboro" :)
    2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX
    Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014)
    Current Linux Usage (by machine): Arch: I openSUSE: III

  18. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    8,434
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The new iPad air is significantly lighter and smaller overall than the iPad 2 and 3.

  19. #19
    on by skijor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Wisconsin
    My Bikes
    Waterford RS-33, Salsa Vaya, Vision R40, Bacchetta Giro 20 ATT
    Posts
    883
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by bikebuddha View Post
    What kind of android phone did you have, I've found problems with every custom android I've used and absolutely zero using pure android on a Nexus device.
    HTC Evo 3D. Still have it. The problems have really not been that bad...nuisance type stuff. E.g. the default browser crashing repeatedly. I downloaded Opera, Chrome, and FF because of this problem. However, I've gone back to the default and now it's usually fine. I suppose something was fixed with an update. I would have been happy with the Nexus too, but would've wished for the extra real estate of the mini...26% bigger screen.

  20. #20
    Senior Member bikebuddha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Somewhere in time
    Posts
    1,109
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by EthanYQX View Post
    Your eyes must be a lot better than mine, lol. I can't see a damn thing on my iPad 2.
    +1 I'm selling my iPad 2 just because the screen resolution makes it really tough for me to use it as a tablet.
    The few, the proud, the likely insane, Metro-Atlanta bicycle commuters.

  21. #21
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    670
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by skijor View Post
    HTC Evo 3D. Still have it. The problems have really not been that bad...nuisance type stuff. .
    Yeah, I hate that nuisance stuff. Had enough of that on my HTC phone and Samsung tablet.

    Now I have a iPhone and iPad Mini and don't have to deal with the typical Android nuisance stuff.

  22. #22
    Senior Member bikebuddha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Somewhere in time
    Posts
    1,109
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
    Yeah, I hate that nuisance stuff. Had enough of that on my HTC phone and Samsung tablet.

    Now I have a iPhone and iPad Mini and don't have to deal with the typical Android nuisance stuff.

    Most of the nuisance stuff comes in the form of custom android's that the manufactures cook up. Switch to pure android devices Nexus 7 & 5, has been an eye opening experience.
    The few, the proud, the likely insane, Metro-Atlanta bicycle commuters.

  23. #23
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    670
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by bikebuddha View Post
    Most of the nuisance stuff comes in the form of custom android's that the manufactures cook up. Switch to pure android devices Nexus 7 & 5, has been an eye opening experience.
    If I hadn't been able to purchase a new-in-box Ipad Mini for $240, the Nexus 7 would have been my next choice. I think the competition in the Android world produces some really great products, the Nexus series an obvious example. I loved my Samsung Tab 7.0 Plus tablet, till Samsung pulled the plug on updates which left the device vulnerable to obsolescence due to software incompatibilities. There's less of that in the iOS world seemingly. As well the occasional wonderful Android devices (Samsung Galaxy S4 being a prime example) keeps Apple on it's toes with iOS 7 showing some features we might not have otherwise seen.

    I do like the Apple phones and tablets but would be about as happy in the Android world, IF they would learn to stabilize a bit and support long term. AS a result I will never buy a Samsung.

  24. #24
    Senior Member Bakerb24's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Mooresville, NC
    My Bikes
    Scott CR1 Team
    Posts
    115
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Well I've never been in the cockpit of a Cesna, but I do have a new iPad air. I basically use it for getting on this site, Facebook and email. My wife has an ipad mini, which is way too small in my opinion. Just for my personal preference, I would recommend the iPad air.

  25. #25
    Senior Member Will G's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Granbury, Texas
    Posts
    703
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Ordered the mini. Hey, for you folks with androids, there is a free app called Avare that supports VFR navigation. Kind of fun to play with.
    Flying a jet is no different than riding a bicycle. It's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •