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Old 12-14-13, 12:02 PM   #1
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Washing Machines... talk to me. HE? Agitator? Top load. Or tried and true?

OK folks, our last machine died after some 12 years of use. My wife didn't give me time to troubleshoot it and fix it, which is what I had done to keep it alive for 12 years... primarily to fix the door sensor... which frankly was a cheap design. It required that I bend a tab every couple of years so that the switch would be depressed and the washer would go on with the spin cycle. However this time that was not the solution and I needed a full Saturday to find the real problem.

The wife however could not wait... and she and my sister in law went out on a shopping spree and bought an HE top loading machine.

Well it worked for about a month. Right now it is sitting in the garage going through some "magic sensing cycle" but not washing anything.

Frankly I am willing to dump it right away and go out and try to find a regular old fashion "timer based" machine that has "no sensors" and just dutifully runs through what ever cycle you tell it.

So what is your experience... do you have a fancy washing machine? Does it work? Do you have an HE machine.. does it stink?

Or do you use a local river and some handy rocks? (or perhaps a bucket and plunger...)
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Old 12-14-13, 12:20 PM   #2
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I have an HE machine that cost more than my first car. Being a cheap guy I was really reluctant to spend the money when the old machine died. But it has really proven itself worth the money. It does bigger loads and when they come put they don't spend as Mich time in the dryer. Mines a front loader and I've had no problems
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Eh, wear them until they rot off your body then buy some new ones.
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I left the $400 used pair of old Whirlpools in SC when I moved two years ago. Their agitator ruined too many pairs of jeans. I looked at the HE toploaders but that shallow agitator doesn't look like it'd do much for genuinely dirty clothes. So I bought a set of front loader Kenmores a year ago. They've been fine. They don't see heavy use...it's just my stuff...a few loads every couple weeks. I did notice an odor (kind of musty) after a few months of use. Yes I keep its door fully open when idle. I don't know if the odor (it's only in the washer, not the clothes) is more to do with the detergent or the design of the machine. You're supposed to wipe around the seal after use. I have read of this with the top load HEs too.
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We have a top loader that was highly recommended by Consumer Reports. No agitator, stainless drum, highly programmable. It senses load size and adjusts water level automatically. Quiet and it has this timer so you know how long until load is done. Maytag Bravos Quiet Series 300.

It still scores well but there top rated machine right now in top loading is this model by LG

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/a...w-99048181.htm
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The only problem I have with my HE front loader, is that it uses so little water that if you set it on Hot, you won't get any hot water. It cuts the water off before the hot water can even get to it. Keep in mind, my gas tankless water heater is on the other side of the wall, outside the house. Not on the other side of the house. Really uses very little water. On the other hand, it does a good job. The real drawback I still have is sometimes I get nasty at work, and a good soak is needed for my clothes. Kinda hard to do that in a water stingy front loader.

We also got a cheaper model from Home Depot. Can't remember the brand and am not at home to look.
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My current washer has the same issue that genec's had. I fixed it by removing the safety switch. A temporary fix that has lasted almost two years now.

We are a small family and I want to by this pair for about $1100 bucks. The wife is reluctant to spend the money.

http://www.lg.com/us/washers/lg-WT10...op-load-washer

http://www.lg.com/us/dryers/lg-DLE1001W-electric-dryer

I like the controls up front and prefer a top load. Front load washers are a pain, IMO. You really need a pedestal, there can be mold issues, etc.
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weird less then 1 hour ago i got my new machine delivered its a ge made in the usa was around 450.mine is the old style the other kind seemed to much money

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Old 12-14-13, 01:46 PM   #9
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I left the $400 used pair of old Whirlpools in SC when I moved two years ago. Their agitator ruined too many pairs of jeans. I looked at the HE toploaders but that shallow agitator doesn't look like it'd do much for genuinely dirty clothes. So I bought a set of front loader Kenmores a year ago. They've been fine. They don't see heavy use...it's just my stuff...a few loads every couple weeks. I did notice an odor (kind of musty) after a few months of use. Yes I keep its door fully open when idle. I don't know if the odor (it's only in the washer, not the clothes) is more to do with the detergent or the design of the machine. You're supposed to wipe around the seal after use. I have read of this with the top load HEs too.
Possibly the smell is cause by leftover water sitting in the bottom of the machine and going stagnant. In normal usage, i.e. twice or more a week, the water doesn't stagnant and smell.
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Look in some of the advertising 'rags' that come to your house (the Pennysaver, etc) and see if there's someone in your area that sells used washers and dryers. I bought a set off one of those businesses for about $150 and its been running with no problems for about 5 years (no electronic sensors, just mechanical switches). The top load washer came with a removable agitator thingy (big fins on it); I took it out to do some delicate stuff about four years ago, never put it back in, but it still cleans everything adequately. The buzzer that alerts you when a cycle ends has crapped out on both the washer and dryer, but that's nothing I worry about.
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The issue with most washers, certainly front loaders, is that the quality consistency is all over the map. My parents purchased the same model frigidaire HE front loader as us, both around 1999. Theirs lasted 5 years, ours is still chugging along. They bought a top-rated maytag front loader after that and it has treated them pretty well. Others are shocked to hear that, as this model of Maytag supposedly has problems. Everything comes with the risk of failure.
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Samsung or LG front loader. DO NOT BUY Fridgidaire of Kenmore anything (they are flaming P'sOS).
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Possibly the smell is cause by leftover water sitting in the bottom of the machine and going stagnant. In normal usage, i.e. twice or more a week, the water doesn't stagnant and smell.
There is no visible standing water. At least none that I can get to without dismantling stuff. It's a minimal odor really. It's more noticeable when I use perfume & dye-free detergent. I now use about half scented and half unscented and it's better.
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i like lin dryied cloths

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I have a front loading HE washer by LG and LOVE it! I love doing laundry and enjoy using a clothesline whenever possible (outdoors, if sunny/warm or similar to the ones that have been linked in this post (saves money on drying for sure). The front loaders use less water and less detergent= more savings there, too.

As for a previous poster's problem with odor, wiping it down with some bleach inside should help and also running an empty load on hot with bleach in the bleach dispenser, will help. (I don't have that issue since I'm constantly doing laundry with a family of 6).

Machka's post with the tabletop version, I've heard, is actually pretty good for people who have small loads and do infrequent laundry.
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After using a front loading washing machine I'm not going back to top loaders voluntarily. Better washing, less water. In Australia the best regarded brand for reliability is Bosch. I don't' know if this brand is available in the USA or not.

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Front loaders use less water and are gentler on clothes but there are a limited number of manufacturers and a good one will cost a good chunk of change and still require more regular servicing regardless of the maker... our well used 5-6 year old machine from Sears (Kenmore) is due for a rebuild and I have picked up the parts to replace the shocks and rear bearing assembly with a better than factory replacement as this is where they are not as well built as they should be.

The parts were not that expensive and I can do all the work... from what I hear the newer Kenmores are terrible and we got one of the last decent machines.

We use an indoor line and clothesline a good deal and this saves on electricity costs for running the dryer.

Ideally, one would have a quality top loader for heavier items and a front loader for delicates.
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If you want a no-frills top loader that is pure electro-mechanical, look at Speed Queen. We have one, and my wife loves it. It's like the washer I remember my mom using. You flip a couple levers or buttons, turn the big dial and then pull out on the big knob. It then gets to business doing exactly what you tell it to do, nothing more or nothing less. It makes no judgements or decisions on its own.

I think there are four models that are exactly the same except for options like number of cycles, extra rinse, etc. The stainless steel tub is huge and they are made in USA.
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Um, no.

LG has been making Sears Kenmore laundry for a while now.
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My HOA won't let us line dry outside. Stupid frigging facists.
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we had a front loader and i liked it a lot. it was huge and weighted as much as a battleship, but got the job done well. i say 'had' because we sold it and our dryer before moving states. when its time to get a new set, at least the washer will definitely be front loading. just sucks they are so unbelievably expensive.
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weird less then 1 hour ago i got my new machine delivered its a ge made in the usa was around 450.mine is the old style the other kind seemed to much money
Old style? What model is it... I tried looking for the old style and every search was swamped by all sorts of new style machines.
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If you want a no-frills top loader that is pure electro-mechanical, look at Speed Queen. We have one, and my wife loves it. It's like the washer I remember my mom using. You flip a couple levers or buttons, turn the big dial and then pull out on the big knob. It then gets to business doing exactly what you tell it to do, nothing more or nothing less. It makes no judgements or decisions on its own.

I think there are four models that are exactly the same except for options like number of cycles, extra rinse, etc. The stainless steel tub is huge and they are made in USA.
ahhhh just what I am looking for... plain and straight forward.
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