no and yes.
your problem is you are looking at the stuff for kids.
So take it up a notch and listen to stuff older bands are making for their well established fans.
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
Note to self: Buy twister.
Originally Posted by Al Dvorin
....suggestion to @windchaser: set yourself up a free Pandora account. Program a few channels with the older
bands/artist names that you like from ancient times, and as the thing plays music to you it will choose other
music by people that you might like but who are more contemporary and with whom you may be unfamiliar.
There are a great many very talented musicians struggling to get heard, and it ain't gonna happen on the radio.
Originally Posted by Al Dvorin
it does happen on the radio, just no longer on a commercial station (for the most part). i'm sure there are a lot of small college based stations out there that play good stuff with limited ads, like rice radio, ktru. and many you can stream live.
pandora's a perfect suggestion though. you can even buy an account to avoid their loud ads.
and now for what was actually popular
yeah, clemson, those aren't great songs that stand the test of time (at least in my opinion). but you're not addressing the crux of the issue which is mainstream vs mature music. this used to be more closely aligned. twenty years ago, listeners could hear good modern rock on a couple places on the commercial fm dial and not feel lobotomized. this has changed.
take for example band of horses or my morning jacket, two great rock bands harkening back to the best guitar oriented classic rock. these bands don't get a sniff from commercial radio. and this is for good reason. they don't write the three minute song that easily sells used cars. twenty years ago, these bands would be treated like nirvana or pearl jam. thirty years ago, like the allman brothers or elo. but commercial radio has changed. commercial stuff has to all sound the same and the band name must have a numeral in it (apparently).
i'm not being nostalgic. i'm being observant. but this is not new. clear channel has been at work monopolizing radio stations for decades -- maybe the single biggest factor in destroying uniqueness in mainstream rock more than anything.
but it's not the end of the world. it just takes more effort, and you just have to know where to look.
I must be the only 'youngster' posting in this thread (seeing as to how I am 16), but I have to agree about 3/4 way. Yes, the mainstream stuff is 98% garbage, and yes, the old stuff (90's to 30's) is good, hell, I listen to Louis Armstrong, Sinatra, AC/DC, Elvis, Old School Rap (the goods, like Poizon and the bunch) more than I do anything mainstream, but I will admit there is still SOME good stuff surfacing these days. Most of this stuff is non-mainstream by the way, because like you guys said, mainstream is a taste that the largest population (usually the youth) like. I guess I am just a weird kid, but back in the day (before I was born), that down beat was just something you could not resist. And like some of you guys, I still spin records, my grandpa has a libraries worth (It happens when you are 101) and spinning records is way more fun than just hitting play on my computer.
Ya, I know, my taste in music is all over the place, but hey, I never said it wasn't.
fifyOriginally Posted by roadboy97
and I agree with your last sentence which is why it was included in my original post in this thread
^ yeah, i agree with all that. i'm arguing something different concerning the genre of mainstream rock. it sucks, plain and simple. even the bad songs atop the chart from yesteryear you posted are more artistic than the crap mtv and the vans warped tour sells to kids.
even though there's all this great music still out there and it's easy to find and download through pandora and the net, we've lost out on the collective consciousness of great mainstream rock. we all used to hum the same current song that came out that week. and it was good! we've kinda lost that.
There is some good stuff out there for sure, but I am really sick of all the club music on the radio.
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When I saw the title, I thought, finally, something about music I can agree with.
Then he said 80s metal...
Every once in a while someone does something I like, but it ain't often.
I grew up in the 60s, thought acts like Aretha, Dylan, BB King, Stones and the Beatles
were to be expected.
How wrong I was.
We are as gods, we might as well get good at it.
Bring back the Monkeys.
There don't seem to be the popular and decent mega-bands of yore, but there's still plenty of good music out there.
Metal? Softer stuff sounding like older Led Zep is not too hard to find: Black Crows, Black Keys, Wolfmother.
80s metal? First time I heard Mastodon, I could not believe how tight an 80s metal band they were. Also have the concept album thing down.
Thrash with humor? Austrian Death Machine, Oozing Wound.
Nice part about music today is that if you were into a band thirty years ago, there's probably half a dozen bands doing the same sound better. You just have to dig for them a bit.
Another good part about music today is online radio -- you can usually find a station or archived show with exactly what you are looking for, again as long as you are willing to do just a little bit of searching.
Your next favorite band is already out there making music...
+[whatever] on Pandora or Spotify to expand your musical interests.
I have XM radio in my car so I can listen to a lot of great channels with good modern music, as well as classic rock.
I was born in 1981. I grew up listening to "oldies" - motown, stuff from the 50's, 60's, etc. I eventually graduated to classic rock, and it remains the best music of all time. Sometimes I'm sad I was born when I was, and not in the late 50's, so I could be of age to enjoy the likes to Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Who, and especially Springsteen when they were in their touring and musical primes. Sure the 80's were pretty great for a lot of music, and the 90's were a mixed bag, but the uber-pop crap has really made a surge in the 2000s and "mainstream" stuff is just getting worse and worse. Let's not even get into the whole rap thing. Just, no.
The great thing about the 70's and 80's was that bands made albums. Albums you could listen to all the way through because they were almost all awesome songs. Nowadays it's all about the singles, and while singers still release "albums" there are rarely more than 1 or 2 hits from them.
Let's be honest. There is hardly anything in the past decades that holds a candle to the likes of 'Born to Run', or 'Dark Side of the Moon' as complete albums.
I'll always be a classic rock junkie. I've seen The Moody Blues, Neil Diamond, Tom Jones, Peter Frampton, Cheap Trick, Jackson Browne, Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, Dickey Betts/Great Southern, The Beach Boys (3x - once when John Stamos was drumming for them), and some others I probably can't remember all in concert. I've also seen Dave Matthews Band 24 times, and consider the Billy Joel/Elton John Face 2 Face show I went to the best I've seen so far in my life.
And yes, Wilco has been around for a while, but they've released a lot of amazing stuff since 2000. In fact most of it.
The majority of popular music has always been terrible. The best stuff is usually found on the fringes
"Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day."--Harry S. Truman
Simple test... can you whistle the tune or is there even a melody?
How many modern singers can really carry a tune? Or play an instrument... Oh sure there are some, but it seems to me that many are made up acts that require sound bending machines to make their "music."
Live acts... how many modern producers of sound do live shows?
Originally Posted by Al Dvorin