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ahsposo 04-26-14 08:52 PM

The more I listen to Daft Punk the more I think they have music:


ahsposo 04-26-14 09:03 PM


ahsposo 04-26-14 10:11 PM

Daft Punk made me think about this guy; he could end up eating the Beatles, Stevie Wonder and M. Jackson before he's done.

Killer.


Zinger 04-26-14 11:02 PM

I've always searched out music from before I was born as well as what was contemporary when I grew up. But yeah, I tapered off in my appreciation for all contemporary genres after middle age or so. I think you tend to appreciate what you grew up with more because your impressionable mind was influenced by it and you'll probably remember the best of your era to justify that prejudice no matter your age.

Now if you're picking on the younger ladies though it probably pays to keep current in your tastes......as I've observed the playas do :)

krobinson103 04-27-14 01:00 AM

Try living in Korea. K pop fits in just above noise in my book. No creativity, all driven by videos of half naked women to cover the terrible music...

ilikebikes 04-29-14 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by windhchaser (Post 16366634)
i mean bands like no direction and etc etc.am i right in thinking music today mostly sucks or am i just old.i say bring back 80s metal

Nah, your right, music today mostly sucks...and you are old. :p

Deal4Fuji 04-30-14 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by quadophile (Post 16366640)
The reason it sounds awful is because you cannot relate to it. Same goes for me, I am 55 and have difficulty appreciating the new music. Nothing wrong with that we all have likes and dislikes.

I generally listen to music from my era and am happy with it. Brings back fond memories.

A lot of "Verns" on this thread - "The kids haven't changed Vern, you have" from the Breakfast Club.

I'm your age & I don't think we could have been born at a better time, the height of the Baby Boom generation we partied in high school to the great heavy metal guitar bands, but we were close enough to the late 50"s & 60's to appreciate the beginnings of R&R and the great variety of music from the 60's. While we were still young & having a good time we saw the start up of punk & new wave that brought us out of that hard-rock stagnation...we outgrew it just as all this great new music was starting up.

I do agree that for a long while it was hard to find the good music, and what was accessible to most people was not the best music being made, but just in the last couple of years I see it getting better with more stations operating under the "Alternative" & "Modern Rock" formats and they are playing some great new music. There are so many genres of music now that it's more competitive to make it as a artist, the internet has helped a lot for unique bands to find their audience.

The industry has changed and for artists, making money off record & itune sales is much harder, so that forces more live performances as a major source of their revenue, which is great for music fans. It's still a fantastic day...be happy :)


CbadRider 04-30-14 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by genec (Post 16367929)
How many modern singers can really carry a tune? Or play an instrument... Oh sure there are some, but it seems to me that many are made up acts that require sound bending machines to make their "music."

Live acts... how many modern producers of sound do live shows?

+1000

Auto-tune should be illegal. If you can't sing on key, you shouldn't record music.

Britney Spears can't sing anymore but people keep buying her manufactured music and paying to see her "live" shows where she lip-syncs to a prerecorded track. She wears skimpy outfits and writhes around onstage and in her videos, so I guess that's what people are paying for.

mconlonx 04-30-14 11:09 AM

NSFW


noisebeam 04-30-14 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by krobinson103 (Post 16705422)
Try living in Korea. K pop fits in just above noise in my book. No creativity, all driven by videos of half naked women to cover the terrible music...

Cultural Technology and the Making of K-Pop : The New Yorker

Quote:

Occasionally, the concert seemed like a giant pep rally. But at its best it elicited primal pop emotions that only a few of the greatest pop artists—the Beach Boys, the early Beatles, Phil Spector’s girl groups—can evoke: the feeling of pure love. When the Girls came out again, Jacobson watched them closely. “O.K., it’s all about humility,” he said. “Look how they bow to their fans. That’s a big part of it.” He started ticking off the Girls’ qualities on his fingers. “First, beauty. Second, graciousness and humility. Third, dancing. And fourth, vocal. Also, brevity. Nothing lasts more than three and a half minutes. Let’s time it.”

noisebeam 04-30-14 04:01 PM

These are also good to read if somewhat curious about hit makers:

http://www.booknoise.net/johnseabroo...%20FINAL-2.pdf

Stargate and Ester Dean, Making Music Hits : The New Yorker

ricebowl 04-30-14 04:44 PM

When aren't old people complaining about new stuff? I'm old too...:p. Just because something doesn't match my taste doesn't make it bad.

trsidn 05-01-14 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mconlonx (Post 16715769)

yikes.

and get off my lawn

roadandmountain 05-01-14 08:50 AM

It's very very easy to think of and list excellent films from the 90's until the present.

It's very difficult to think of great albums released in the past 10-15 years however.

A very large part of the additions to my audio collection are now books, but that aside, most of what I'm buying are compilations and albums from the 80's and 90's.

You can find great acts and albums but you really have to scour the net and rely very heavily on happenstance or just sheer luck to find truly great artists.

Two of them, for me, include maxwell and diane birch. I didn't discover maxwell until 2008, and I believe his landmark debut album was released all the way back in 96 if I am correct. Diane Birch released her debut in 2009 and I only discovered her a few months ago.

I know teens and 20somethings are more less plugged into their music all the time, and probably do have sizeable collections, so there must be something today that they find appealing. Unfortunately I don't care at all what these acts might be.

FrankHudson 05-01-14 11:11 AM

There is more music available in more genres than ever before. Sturgeon's Law applies then as now. I suspect what many geezers like myself miss (and attribute to the music itself) is the social experience around the music. For example, these records are the same as they ever were: Kind Of Blue, Blonde on Blonde, Live At the Fillmore East, Marquee Moon. Today, I can only recall what it was like to hear them for the first time and cannot have that exact experience with a new record I hear now, even if it has similar qualities. Thought that recollection isn't the same thing as hearing them new for the first time back then, we can sometimes find that memory recalled as we listen to older music more attractive than the actual experience of hearing something new for the first time in the present time.

MileHighMark 05-01-14 11:24 AM

Many of the bands/artists that I listen to have either broken up or are deceased. Great records age well, though, and manage to remain relevant and exciting. Now that I'm older (52), I have the luxury of going back and listening to music that I may have previously missed.

mconlonx 05-01-14 11:28 AM

Nowadays, I'm finding new music (and newer music I missed in the past couple of decades) through Pandora, LastFM and the like.

But two new favorites I was turned onto the old fashioned way: live shows.

We played with these guys in a barn in Worcester MA, and I'd never have heard them any other way.


mconlonx 05-01-14 11:30 AM

Babymetal.


eja_ bottecchia 05-01-14 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windhchaser (Post 16366634)
i mean bands like no direction and etc etc.am i right in thinking music today mostly sucks or am i just old.i say bring back 80s metal

Never ask a compound question.

My answer is YES.

Now it is up to you to figure out what I was answering YES to.

Cyclosaurus 05-01-14 12:01 PM

Most of the music released ever is terrible. The difference between the past and now is that the terrible music of the past has been forgotten, while we're still being subjected to what's current and bad. It creates the false sense of "they don't make 'em like they used to" because virtually 100% of what you remember from the past is good. In 20 years people will look back on now and the small percentage of music from today that is still being played will make people feel the same way.

I used to listen to an oldies channel 20 years ago. They had a recurring "Forgotten Oldies" gimmick where they played some song that was popular at the time but doesn't get played anymore. It was invariably awful. My response to this was, there was a good reason it was forgotten.

I noticed the same phenomenon happen with regard to Saturday Night Live. In the mid/late 80s, I used to watch the "Best of..." with Chevy Chase, Dan Ackroyd, John Belushi, Eddie Murphy, etc.. I would also watch SNL when it was aired at that time and only about 1/3 of the show was funny. It left the same impression in me that people always have said about SNL, that "it used to be funny, but the cast sucks now". Recently we watched whole episodes from the original cast. Only about 1/3 were funny. SNL is been consistently the same level of good always (which is to say only so-so). But since no one remembers or talks about those dull, unfunny skits from 40 years ago, collectively we only remember the good ones. This skews the perspective identically.

You'll find this pattern everywhere is popular culture and art. Who remembers the work of below-average artists that worked as contemporaries of Lenoardo Da Vinci, Michelangelo, or Botticelli in Florence during the early Renaissance?

trsidn 05-01-14 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by windhchaser (Post 16366634)
i say bring back 80s metal

ummmm.. no.

skijor 05-01-14 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by trsidn (Post 16718898)
ummmm.. no.

I never heard of them. Was that jsharr's all-bass college band?

trsidn 05-01-14 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skijor (Post 16718968)
I never heard of them. Was that jsharr's all-bass college band?

I'm pretty sure they were 80's plastic....

DBA 05-01-14 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mconlonx (Post 16718733)
Babymetal.


bubblegum metal?
Kill it! Kill it now!

ahsposo 05-01-14 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DBA (Post 16719183)
bubblegum metal?
Kill it! Kill it now!

They don't remind you of the fabulous Spice Girls?

Now there's group with a timeless appeal!


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