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windhchaser 12-29-13 07:08 PM

is music today mostly awful or am i old?
 
i mean bands like no direction and etc etc.am i right in thinking music today mostly sucks or am i just old.i say bring back 80s metal

quadophile 12-29-13 07:12 PM

The reason it sounds awful is because you cannot relate to it. Same goes for me, I am 55 and have difficulty appreciating the new music. Nothing wrong with that we all have likes and dislikes.

I generally listen to music from my era and am happy with it. Brings back fond memories.

cafzali 12-29-13 07:25 PM

The problem has to do mostly with access to music. It's not that it's not there, it's just harder to find if you rely on traditional radio stations because they're programming either for the youth audience or the classic rock audience. But avenues like Pandora are great at giving you not only what you know you like, but music that fits your taste from bands you may not be familiar.

JerrySTL 12-29-13 07:35 PM

I listen to classic rock stations and it sure seems that music was much better. However if you consider that they are picking and choosing from a couple of decades worth of music. Look up what was in the Top 10 songs back in your day and I bet you see a lot of crap. Can we say "disco" for the '70s?

Artkansas 12-29-13 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windhchaser (Post 16366634)
i mean bands like no direction and etc etc.am i right in thinking music today mostly sucks or am i just old.i say bring back 80s metal

Yep, you are no longer the target market. Music is just the first way that society tells you that. It gets worse.

In 20 years, today's teens will be whining about how music of the 30's just isn't as good as music of today was. No classic songs, like Wrecking Ball.

Darth Lefty 12-29-13 07:37 PM

Pop music is driven by novelty. Thanks to hair metal and gangster rap, what's novel today is niceness.

windhchaser 12-29-13 07:39 PM

i do like lady gaga she has a hect of a voice

RoadTire 12-29-13 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windhchaser (Post 16366634)
i mean bands like no direction and etc etc.am i right in thinking music today mostly sucks or am i just old.i say bring back 80s metal

Seems downright weird to read "old," and "80s metal" in the same sentence. But you are right, music is mostly awful. Bring back the mid 60's and pre-Disco Rock. Led Zeppelin. Grand Funk (Railroad) Eagles, Atlanta Rhythm Section, BTO - Taking Care of Business.

SmallFront 12-29-13 07:46 PM

Never liked mainstream music - not even when I was young. I avoided it like the plague. Now, that I'm older and a bit softer (yeah, I am), I'm having trouble finding anything good. But that is down to me not actively looking for it, and not knowing where to look for what I like.

To put it another way: I think the ratio between good and bad music is the exact same. It's just that we're older and the music of "the present" haven't yet been weeded out.

I try to make it a point (without being creepy) to ask people what they are listening to if I think what I hear is interesting (they often play music with their phone/mp3 player on speaker phone). The young people are usually nice about it, and quite a few have even written it down for me.

ahsposo 12-29-13 07:51 PM

There is an incredible amount of good new music.

If you like metal windy, try Biting Elbows.

NSFW or in the presence of small children but otherwise CRANK IT UP and buckle your seat belt.

http://bitingelbows.com/

eschlwc 12-29-13 08:16 PM

mainstream rock has gotten much, much worse. it's like pop punk where melody comes second to show, attitude, and fashion. often, there is very little melody at all, giving way to repetitive rhythms that merely support immature lyrics that move illiterate adolescents. to someone that grew up before the '90s, it sounds worse than noise.

but many of the indie and college radio acts today are exceptional at songwriting, playing and recording. you have to seek them out and listen to non-commercial radio like kexp in seattle.

gone are the days when one could listen to commercial radio and hear a new rock song and feel moved through its composition alone. it doesn't do that anymore. it is noise filler to sell cars and insurance to the mindless.

Artkansas 12-29-13 08:33 PM

A FB acquaintance recommended this one. I've never heard of them before. But they might be up your alley. Angry Leprechaun Music?


the sci guy 12-29-13 08:34 PM

yes and no.
there is so very, very much terrible, awful, god awful music out there.
but there are also a lot of really fantastic bands.

a few to give a listen to:

Arcade Fire
Sigur Ros
David Gray
Florence + the Machine
Phantogram
The Gaslight Anthem
The National
The Black Keys
The Lumineers

and possibly one of the best bands of the past decade: WILCO

ahsposo 12-29-13 08:45 PM

Personally I've been listening to these guys since a friend introduced me to them Christmas night...


This stuff is right out of my youth, but fresh.


SmallFront 12-29-13 08:47 PM

Keep them coming!

eschlwc 12-29-13 09:03 PM

sci guy, those fine bands you mention aren't played on commercial radio (for the most part). and when was wilco's debut? early '90s? tweedy's an old man now...

Michigander 12-29-13 09:23 PM

New main stream rock is 98% garbage, and it's not just you. Same with country. I think quite a lot of it has to do with the loss of prosperity and pride of so much of the working class. I actually know people ranging in age from 18-75 who agree that good rock came in with the late 60's and had almost completely fizzled out by the end of the 90's.

Other forms of music it seems to me are doing well.

spacemanz 12-29-13 09:42 PM

Now you know why I keep spinning my old vinyl records. ;) Plus the sound quality was much better, if played through much better gear. Now, it's all plastic, & sounds like it. ;)

spinnaker 12-29-13 09:47 PM

I have the feeling that the classic rock that you hear today will be the music you will be hearing for some time to come. While there might be some good bands out there, they just don't seem to have the staying quality like years gone by.

But there is lots of good music that you really no longer hear. I love motown for example. Then a bit earlier Glenn Miller, Tommy Dorsey. big band in general is awesome.

StanSeven 12-29-13 09:54 PM

When you're old like me, you hear the same thing said by every generation. The problem is if you don't listen and change with the times, you get stuck in a certain era whether its' music, bicycles, cars, furniture, clothes, or whatever. You become stuck there and what comes along afterwards isn't as good. There's nothing wrong with that though.

ahsposo 12-29-13 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StanSeven (Post 16366953)
When you're old like me, you hear the same thing said by every generation. The problem is if you don't listen and change with the times, you get stuck in a certain era whether its' music, bicycles, cars, furniture, clothes, or whatever. You become stuck there and what comes along afterwards isn't as good. There's nothing wrong with that though.

Yes there is. It's called being an old fogey.

Take it to the 50+ forum...

And get off my lawn!


spacemanz 12-29-13 10:14 PM

Good point, on clothes. For about the last 5 years or so, I've been complaining about not being able to find good old "normal" Levi's, and rightfully so, I feel. I mean they're still made, but you have to go to some trouble to find them, usually. But on the other side of that coin, I really like a lot of the newer clothes they're making. And I get nearly all my clothes out of thrift stores, so I don't spend much at all, LOL. I buy socks & underwear new, but anything else, a good washing makes it "like" new. ;) I've been learning to dress all over again, especially for bike-riding. Gore-Tex & polyester are where it's at now, & possibly wool socks. The stuff's so light & comfortable, you feel like you're runnin' around nekkid, LOL. ;)

3alarmer 12-29-13 10:21 PM


clemsongirl 12-29-13 10:27 PM

There’s always good new music if you’re willing to take the time to look for it and there is also new meaningless commercial fad music just as anytime before. What’s thought as great past music is not a random sampling of all the music available at that time or even that it was the most popular at the time.

Good new or old lyrics can always be meaningful especially if they mirror how you feel/felt or want to feel. There are also lots of talented musicians from around the earth right now who we have more and easier access to than ever before.

Sometimes I think the ‘music was better when’ statements aren’t well thought out, possibly just negative thinking about the days youth culture and usually just about ones own youth and what they perceived were good times whether in total they even were.

eschlwc 12-29-13 10:34 PM

leave it to ahsposo to refute the wide held opinion that today's mainstream rock sucks by posting some 10-year old techno.

but please don't mistake this for want here of a current mainstream rock video. if i were a 13-year old girl or the ceo of sony, i might feel differently.

and it's just not true that today's horror is just like yesterday's. pop music like mainstream rock is much worse today. think back to the '70s and '80s when you didn't need to 'seek out' the best singer songwriters or the best hard rock. it was played on commercial radio. now, commercial radio is crap. if you don't know this, you're either not 40 yet (with a view of the past), or you're just not paying attention.

that's not to say you could turn on any station and hear the pixies or joy division. we're talking mainstream here.

the whole medium has changed. and big business like clear channel has had a lot to do with it.


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