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    Looking for some feedback for my resume. Any employers or HR people? Engineers?

    So it's time for the job search to begin since quitting in October and I've updated my resume. It will be for an engineering position (mechanical or manufacturing). Would you mind giving me some feedback, either with grammar, format, content, or any combination of them? I certainly appreciate it. Sample Resume.JPG
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    wish mine was so clean and simple
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    Me too.

    Since my career got derailed in 2005 I'm a mess.

    Currently I'm doing pretty well but I'd have a hard time putting what I do coherently on a resume.

    I teach some fairly informal classes, I take assignments from various work platforms on the internet, I work for a government agency on a highly irregular schedule and will take photo assignments if they are unusual and pay well.

    One of the last photo jobs I took (recording a guy's inventory of high end steel I-beams and the HEAT numbers on them) asked me what I did besides weird ass photo jobs. I told him and he thought for a second and said, "So, you're a hustler."

    I thought about that and said, "Yeah, I guess I am."

    I'm thinking I'll put that on my 1040 forms this year under usual occupation.

    So OP, I think your resume looks pretty good.

    I'll ask the first question you'll get in an interview. "Why did you leave your last employer?"
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    You have enough experience now that you might want to consider moving your education to the bottom.

    Is there any way you can put numbers to the amount of improvement you did? Percentages, speed improvements, cost reductions?

    Looks good.
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    Yeah, numbers are good even if you have to best estimate.
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    ahsposo,
    Can't say I can relate to your resume simplicity issue, but can understand it. The last time I did this I just custom made my bullet points to correspond with the specific company I was applying for. So I had like 5 different resumes, depending on the specifics of the job. Not sure if you're just spitballing, but you may consider the same and just use the applicable jobs/attributes to help the most.
    As for why leaving my previous position, I plan to mention the unplanned company restructuring, putting me in an unfavorable position with no interesting avenues for growth.

    Artkansas,
    I've gone back and forth on the education location. Have you read anything or know what the rule of thumb is here?
    For the numbers, I am hoping to wait for the interview. I'm afraid I can't keep it one page and put numbers into the document. Give 'em a sniff of what I've done and quantify in person (my plan, at least). Further thought?

    I'm also wondering about punctuation and run-on. Since resumes aren't comp papers, it's generally understood that complete, well thought out sentences are sacrificed for relevant information, but I'm wanting reassurance with the last 5 bullet points, specifically.

    Thanks for having a look...
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    Nice and concise. That is what people prefer. I would lose the GPA and Passes FE in 2009. Not required. Keep the Deans list.

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    You want the most relevant information at the top for the job your submitting the resume for. That can be either education or past work experience. I’d suggest education for you as your work experience is just the four years since graduating and that would be explained first. Personally I’d drop the GPA and let the Honor rolls speaks to that. I’d keep the date of passing the FE exam. Besides that, the resume looks good to me and you’re right about it being best to keep it to one page. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikernator View Post
    ahsposo,
    Can't say I can relate to your resume simplicity issue, but can understand it.

    Artkansas,
    I've gone back and forth on the education location. Have you read anything or know what the rule of thumb is here?
    For the numbers, I am hoping to wait for the interview. I'm afraid I can't keep it one page and put numbers into the document. Give 'em a sniff of what I've done and quantify in person (my plan, at least). Further thought?

    I'm also wondering about punctuation and run-on. Since resumes aren't comp papers, it's generally understood that complete, well thought out sentences are sacrificed for relevant information, but I'm wanting reassurance with the last 5 bullet points, specifically.

    Thanks for having a look...
    The rule of thumb is that your resume is a sales document intended to sell them into interviewing you. Take your best shot first.

    If it's your education, then lead with that. If it's your experience, then that goes first. Grab their attention with the first sentence.

    Resumes are odd in that you are supposed to remove the word "I" from all the sentences, but other than that, make them perfectly punctuated, and short sentences are better than long ones. Keep them tight. Details help sell you, so include them when possible so you stick out from those who write generic resumes. Well thought out sentences are essential. You can't present relevant information without them. It may be some of the hardest writing you ever do. You are a copywriter with a product.

    Here's what I saw in your bullet points. My opinions only.

    • What did you implement and how did this save/make the employer money?
    • What problems did you overcome in getting buy in? What did you do to overcome hurdles?
    • How did the company benefit from these? How were the designs improved? How did they save money, How did they make it easier to build. You don't have to answer all of these questions, but get specific

    • How did you improve it? How did that affect final testing?
    • What did you do specifically? What improvements did you make?
    • We would hope you understand basic engineering. How did you improve lubrication, how did you improve cooling, what changes to the software did you make and how did it improve the situation?

    • This is so dense I can't critique it. What results did you achieve? How was this better than what Joe Engineeer would do?
    • Again, this is so dense, while I understand what is being said, there is no picture being drawn in my mind. Tell a short story.
    • What did you communicate and how did it improve the situation?

    Have you watched Shark Tank? Imagine you are trying to sell yourself to Kevin O'Leary, "Mr Wonderful". He doesn't know the engineering at all, but his eyes light up when you tell him how you are going to make him rich and you can back up that assertion with facts. So look at it from that perspective. Tell stories. Don't worry about waiting until the interview to give out facts. If you hold back, you won't get to the interview. I'm sure you have done many more great things than you can tell in a resume. You can tell them at the interview.

    The best interview I ever did was with an animator. I never found out where he worked or what school he went to. The entire interview was about problems I was having and him telling me how to solve them. Of course he got the job. The best job interview I ever had was the job I got without an interview, just a resume and cover letter.

    And as far as complexity, I'm not sure you understand. I had a job with 1 cubicle, two titles and 3 companies that fluctuated back and forth and began in Iceland and ended in Indonesia. There was no way to describe what was happening and the job technically ended 2 times before the final layoff. After talking it over with my former supervisor, it ended up being collapsed in the resume into a single company.

    One thing I have done is I have a 9 page long master resume that has everything I ever did. It has every bullet point I can think of. It also has a list of all the software I've used. And an activities section for all the miscellaneous stuff like awards, public service, etc. This helps make sure that I don't forget something. I use that as a basis for every other resume I write and I write a new resume for each job I apply for, highlighting the experiences that I think the employer will be the most interested in seeing. Usually they are two pages. A full two pages covering the last 10 years of my career.
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    The above comments are good, especially Artkansas' about fleshing out some more details on the how you did things.

    Don't be afraid to go to 2 pages (or even a little over). I would add things like software and hardware experience, although you might need a couple of different tailored resumes depending on whether you're applying for a manufacturing or engineering position.

    If you are currently willing to relocate, the company I work for (S. OR area) is hiring a few engineering and shop/hangar/manufacturing positions.

    And I agree with this:
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    Nice and concise. That is what people prefer. I would lose the GPA and Passes FE in 2009. Not required. Keep the Deans list.

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    Lots of good advice... just want to add... 2 pages are OK but (I am a project manager in med-tech responsible for hiring engineers and medical professionals) I rather see a clean, concise, bullet point resume. Too wordy and I think what's this guy trying to do; puff himself up? If this is a job that requires experience/expertise, I would par down the education component - I could care less about your GPA; what you did in school. Really doesn't matter in the real world. List your college, list your degree(s) and designations. If I want to know more, I will ask. You are limiting yourself saying 3.2 GPA. I get alot of candidates in whose GPA is 4.0+. Doesn't mean they can do the job better than you but regardless its not information an employer needs to know (or I believe has the right to ask). All the educational stuff is important if there is nothing else to mention but if you have job experience, then emphasize that instead. If there is too much in this category, I know the prospective employee has no related job experience.

    What I want to know is where have you worked, when were you working and what did you do. List dates, employer and bullet point job duties. Again, if you are called in for an interview, the employer will further ask you questions about your job experience.

    The first thing an employer sees about you is your resume. Its a real gift being able to put everything on one page that will catch the eye of the employer. That's the guy I want working for me - efficient and to the point; able to gather thoughts and convey them without too much effort.

    Anyway good luck. Remember to do some research about the company you want to interview with so if asked "how do you plan to fit in here(ie what can you bring to the table)..." you have a response...
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    I'm an engineer, and if I were interviewing you here's what I would look for.

    - List work experience before school. Unless you have just graduated from college, I don't care where you went to school and I don't care what your GPA was. I want to know what work experience you have and what you can do.

    - What engineering software tools have you used (CAD, Visio, etc.)?
    - What database tools have you used (SAP, Oracle, etc.)?
    - Have you had any specific QA/QC training?
    - Have you had any official training in process improvement (Six Sigma, etc.)?

    One of the interview questions I have commonly been asked is "What would you say is your biggest strength and your biggest weakness?" Try to come up with a weakness that's not detrimental. My strength is that I can manage multiple projects without problems and get them all done. My weakness is that I don't like to manage people; I don't want to be someone's supervisor and have to babysit them to make sure they get their job done.
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    You are limiting yourself saying 3.2 GPA.
    +1. GPA is very important in certain cultures, even after years of work experience.

    I agree with Artkansas... you did a good job explaining what improvements you made but not what the impact was (saved $X for company, projects were completed ahead of schedule, quality or efficiency metrics were improved by XYZ, etc.).

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    Keep it at one page, or have a good summary on page one.

    It might surprise you how many never get past that first page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdon View Post
    Nice and concise. That is what people prefer. I would lose the GPA and Passes FE in 2009. Not required. Keep the Deans list.
    I would lose the GPA and scholarship. I might keep the FE certification, maybe a separate section for licenses and certifications(on mine the PE certs are at the bottom). Ambivalent about the deans list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    Keep it at one page, or have a good summary on page one.

    It might surprise you how many never get past that first page.
    +1 on that. 3 sentences that hook the reader. 3 reasons why you are better than anyone else who applied for the same job.
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    Having just hired 6 people at my job and screening I don't know how many resumes, I would recommend keeping the education stuff at the top. Virtually every job has an education requirement, and regardless of what you actually did, if you don't meet that requirement you won't get looked at. Show me you qualify right up front. Of course, others will disagree. But for the jobs I just hired, if they didn't have the right degree in the right field, they were not even considered.

    Second, like others have said...tell me what you did specifically (saved so many dollars, improved something by X-amount...).

    Why no periods after your bullets? The grammar and sentence structure is a little rough (as if written by an engineer).

    Lose the GPA. Nobody really cares after your first job...unless it's a 4.0 in some crazy degree. 3.2 is not going to impress anyone.
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    Sorry I am a bit late, but a sincere thank you to those who gave me some input. I will be entertaining all of your comments/ideas, and making the recommended changes many of you provided.

    Nosto_fastlane, I appreciate the heads up, but plan on staying in Tulsa/OKC for the time being. Cool of you to mention it, though.

    Thanks again, Foo.
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    I'm a Mech Eng by education but no longer by profession (I'm a CTO for an 80-employee internet tech and services company).

    - As others have stated, put the education last. Bottom line-how you have proven yourself after you received your degree is 10x more important to me than the degree.

    - For an engineer, you have precious few hard numbers. For instance, your last bullet "Communicated directly with clients blah blah blah project completion to satisfaction". Were your projects 100% on time? If so, state that (or 95%, or whatever). Did you have a measure of customer satisfaction? What I would like to hear is something like "Actively managed client relationship during pre-mobilization through report distribution and ensured 95% project on-time success with full satisfaction, measured by 0% client re-visits." You can do something like this on practically every one of your bullets. How much did you improve reliability? How many different products did you design and oversee production for? What was the measurable benefit of you being the intermediary between shop floor and managment? Note that interviewing people is difficult. When you give specifics, you give the interviewer a line of questioning. I often pass on vague resumes because I think people are bull****ters.

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    list work experience, then certifications, software & other engineering-ese stuff relevant to the position you are seeking, then education (lose the GPA & details), and, also depending on the job, other salient information (hobbies, affiliations, volunteer work, etc.). Before you add stuff like that to a resume, check out the company's reputation about their concern for community-oriented things. Some care a great deal, some not at all... but if they do, and your resume matches the other applicants, this can sometimes spark an interview.
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