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    Flowers for mom Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
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    Someone's tappin into yer stuff, dude.

    Same thing happened to me when I lived in an apt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsposo View Post

    Remember this is a RubenX computer. God only knows what needs that beast has...
    ...I think we both know that there's a significant online porn component to Rube's electric bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
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    PS: And the energy bill says it's $80 bucks. How can it be $80 bucks??? I have no washing machine, no dryer, heating is gas, kitchen is gas... I'm not using AC... I only have a computer and a light-bulb. :\


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    844 KWh in 30 days for a PC and some lightbulbs? does it sound right?
    @RubenX...I got nothin' on your landlord/lease issues, but in a lot of places the 'lectric company
    does not actually send someone to read the meter every month, so sometimes they just send
    out bills based on average usages for several months, and when the meter finally gets read,
    you end up with one whopping big bill to bring you back even.

    You ought to talk to the power company and express your concerns.

    If you want to test to see whether someone else is using your juice, you need to find your
    apartment's meter, then turn off everything in your place and go back and see if the meter is
    still spinning. As Siu says, it's not all that hard in a shared building to jump into someone else's
    power, and it's pretty commonly seen in low rent districts around here.

    It's a source of both injury and fires on occasion, but that don't stop the Oklahoma engineers from doing it.

    Also common is for someone to jump around a meter, which is pretty dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
    Ok, bill says it's from 12/10 to 1/11 and the ammount of energy used was 844 kWh. Does that sounds right? 844 kWh for a computer and some light bulbs?
    2 kids and a wife here. All electric except for oil heat, but heat is forced air so there is a blower. It's 5 out, so heat runs a lot. Washer and electric dryer and with 2 girls and a wife, laundry going almost all the time. 3 TV's, 1 of them being a 50" plasma, 3 DirecTV recievers, 4 cell phones being charged, 2 ipods and 3 tablets always being charged, dishwasher that runs twice a day, electric hot water tank, 1 desktop computer, 1 laptop computer, and electric stove that gets used twice daily.

    My electric is usually about 1000 kWh. I'd say yours sounds high.
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    The best test would be to turn off your power at the SE panel, then go to the meter box and observe that there is no draw. If it is drawing, then they are billing you formthe wrong meter. If there are a cluster of meters, then you can figure out which may be the right one at that time as well.
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    I wish my bill were that low. Last time I was in an apartment it was less than that, but now I consider myself lucky when it's only twice that (though my bill is gas + electric together).
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3alarmer View Post
    @RubenX...I got nothin' on your landlord/lease issues, but in a lot of places the 'lectric company
    does not actually send someone to read the meter every month, so sometimes they just send
    out bills based on average usages for several months, and when the meter finally gets read,
    you end up with one whopping big bill to bring you back even.
    What kind of place to you guys live in? I haven't seen a meter-reader in over 5-years. The smart-meters automatically send usage data back to HQ and no one ever has to leave the office. Heck, even the bills are printed automatically and breaks down usage by the hour for every day.

    RubenX, you need to go down to the library and read up on all the landlord/tenant laws in your area. Nolo Press also has some good books on managing these issues as well. One good thing to implement is a file on everything that occurs between you and previous/current landlord. At the beginning of the file, you can clip a ledger to record dates, events and documents executed. Having all the data organized in one place makes plotting the next course much easier as you can see what your options are at a single-glance. Also helps to file lawsuits if necessary.

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    Don't you have a government tenancy board you can go ask these questions too?

    Or what about the real estate agency you signed the lease through?

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    if some one steals my power ill hook there **** up to 220

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    440 would make more of an impression.
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    lol i dont have 440 guess i can use a neon sign treansformer for around 10 k but id guess it will be to low watttage to hurt anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    Don't you have a government tenancy board you can go ask these questions too?
    As far as I know, Arkansas has none, and I've looked for one when I had questions about my own landlord.

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    Or what about the real estate agency you signed the lease through?
    If he's like me, he found the apartment on his own via an Apartment Guide magazine and signed the lease directly with the corporation that owns the apartment complex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoXYZ View Post
    What kind of place to you guys live in?
    Anti-smart meter bill filed in Arkansas

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    Update:

    Well, check this out. There are 2 paragraphs on the old lease regarding utilities. One clearly states Landlord covers gas and water. But the one about the energy, is worded in a confusing legal lingo and can go either way. The guy at legal aid told me I could try to fight it but, because it is worded in a confusing way, a judge might interpret that I was supposed to pay electricity all the way back from aug 2012. So is better no to risk it and just start paying the electricity from this point on.

    Moving? Well, this is the cheapest rent around, even with the changes. The few places that are cheaper are way too ghetto.

    So, I gotta suck it up.

    PS: Energy company will come to check the AC. Also per the lease, if the AC is to blame for the high usage (dirty core), landlord has to repair.
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    i'd say thats a pretty good outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
    Do you have a copy of your lease that was in effect in September? Normally a new owner will be bound by the terms of the leases in effect at the time that ownership changed hands, but in some states it's allowed for the lease to specifically state that it ends upon the sale of the property. Check your lease for any language to that effect. Otherwise I would think you could contest any changes the new owner is trying to impose, including the minor rent increase and the utility charge since those were not in the old lease.
    Your previous landlord, knowing that he was looking to sell, probably did not offer a renewal lease BECAUSE he intended to sell. A new landlord's responsibility to existent tenants with leases varies from area to area, but, once your lease expires, and no new lease is signed, you're a monthly tenant. The new landlord can pretty much change your rental terms for a new lease. Your options would be to move or agree to the new terms.
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    What I want to know is when did apartments in Arkansas get indoor plumbing and electricity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    What I want to know is when did apartments in Arkansas get indoor plumbing and electricity?
    that was part of that Clinton land deal...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
    I checked PR homes prices not long ago. PR has this delayed reaction where, everything that happens in the US, hits the island months later. The whole housing bubble is just starting to collapse over there. But most livable houses are still on the 400k range. 200k if you don't mind crackheads occasionally walking the street, looking for car stereos to steal.
    Last time I was there a guy repeatedly stabbed, killed, and robbed a tourist... a ****ing tourist! in the middle of the day! in the middle of the high end shopping district in Old San Juan! with two cops on ATVs on every corner! We witnessed crime of all types almost daily on our 10 day trip! Yeah, we're NEVER going back! Can you say....corruption?
    If I were you Rube Id try to fight it, but remember that a member all ready mentioned that renters protection laws were you live are practically non existent, so think hard on this one...wait...don't think hard, that has gotten you into to much trouble with woman in the past.
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