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    intriguing comments by a pilot who lost all 4 engines on a Boeing Jet saying they knew right away and it took 11 yrs for it to come out
    Expert says pilot took Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 to 43,000ft and caused oxygen to run out | Mail Online


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    Quote Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
    intriguing comments by a pilot who lost all 4 engines on a Boeing Jet saying they knew right away and it took 11 yrs for it to come out
    Expert says pilot took Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 to 43,000ft and caused oxygen to run out | Mail Online


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    One problem with this scenario is at the range the military radar tracked the flight, and with no transponder, the altitude estimates may be completely wrong.

    More likely: A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet | Autopia | Wired.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njbudman81 View Post
    If they really knew where the jets crashed they would have seats, luggage or bodies. Seat cushions are flotation devices. That jet would break apart on impact so there would be pieces. This just just seems like they want to wrap up the story because they just don't know. So I don't buy it. Whether it's disrespectful or not I don't care. There are plenty of dead people as the result of government cover ups.
    The area they are currently searching is known as the "Roaring 40's". It's a region of the southern ocean that has no breaks in landfall for thousands of miles till Cape Horn at the southern end of South America. This is an area where the winds and waves build up to huge proportions and where finding debris from a ship is "problematic" to say the least. Yes they can spot debris from a satellite, but getting a ship to the location takes days and when they get there, the waves are at 40+ ft for most of the time so spotting anything is impossible.

    As well and as has been stated in other posts, it's been 2 weeks for the debris to scatter a thousand miles.

    If they find anything related to a crashed plane, I'd be surprised. If they locate the black box and/or cockpit voice recorders, it'll go down in history as a monumental feat.

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    The "experts" you should be listening to are the folks at Inmarsat who calculated direction of flight and those at Malaysian Airlines who actually knew the fuel load and performance capabilities. Everything else is speculation.

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    Stupid question, but could the pilot have seen a fire the suppression system couldn't stop, turned towards the nearest runway, got the masks to drop and said, "hey everyone, put these ****ers on because we're going to go really ****ing high and try to starve the fire so we don't die"?
    Punctuation is important. It's the difference between "I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse" and "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse"


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    Quote Originally Posted by himespau View Post
    Stupid question, but could the pilot have seen a fire the suppression system couldn't stop, turned towards the nearest runway, got the masks to drop and said, "hey everyone, put these ****ers on because we're going to go really ****ing high and try to starve the fire so we don't die"?
    nope

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    Quote Originally Posted by himespau View Post
    Stupid question, but could the pilot have seen a fire the suppression system couldn't stop, turned towards the nearest runway, got the masks to drop and said, "hey everyone, put these ****ers on because we're going to go really ****ing high and try to starve the fire so we don't die"?
    Fires on airplanes are scary. There isn't a whole lot you can do with it, you are trapped in an aluminum tube with it while it consumes your air and emits toxic fumes, and you are fanning it with massive airflow if the fire gets exposed to the outside. Two accidents come to mind, first, the Swiss Air 111 crash (Swissair Flight 111 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) in Nova Scotia and the UPS 6 (UPS Airlines Flight 6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) crash in Dubai. Both were fires. The Swiss Air crew entered holding to burn off fuel and ultimately were forced off the flight deck by the fire. The UPS crew made an immediate return but dense smoke made it impossible to see the flight instruments and the jet crashed near the airfield. Both demonstrate how absolutely chaotic and confusing an inflight fire can be with limited options and extremely limited time.

    Flight attendants are trained to operate the fire extinguishers and fight the fire while keeping the flight crew informed of what is going on. Flight crews are trained to get the aircraft on the ground as soon as possible. Declare an emergency, point the nose at the nearest suitable airfield, run the airspeed to the upper limit, and get the jet on the ground.

    Nowhere in training is it ever suggested to climb to starve the fire or dump the cabin pressure to do the same. The oxygen system for passengers is individual canisters. Remember the flight attendants saying "pull on the mask to start the oxygen flowing"? That pulls a pin on a canister that starts a chemical reaction generating oxygen above your seat and for your row only. These canisters are designed to provide oxygen as the jet executes an emergency descent following a rapid decompression from its highest cruise altitude to 10,000 feet. Run time on the canister is something like 7 minutes (some jets have a 12 minute requirement if they fly over high terrain like Greenland). Flight attendants have oxygen bottles that they carry and flight crew have an independent O2 system but with an even larger supply.

    So, for all the "expert" opinion and WAG's (pilot term meaning "Wild A$$ Guess"), what actually happened on that flight deck remains to be see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
    The area they are currently searching is known as the "Roaring 40's". It's a region of the southern ocean that has no breaks in landfall for thousands of miles till Cape Horn at the southern end of South America. This is an area where the winds and waves build up to huge proportions and where finding debris from a ship is "problematic" to say the least. Yes they can spot debris from a satellite, but getting a ship to the location takes days and when they get there, the waves are at 40+ ft for most of the time so spotting anything is impossible.

    As well and as has been stated in other posts, it's been 2 weeks for the debris to scatter a thousand miles.

    If they find anything related to a crashed plane, I'd be surprised. If they locate the black box and/or cockpit voice recorders, it'll go down in history as a monumental feat.
    Here is a sample of what the southern ocean has to offer.

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    The government of Malaysia is certainly doing a coverup. But I don't know of what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
    The government of Malaysia is certainly doing a coverup. But I don't know of what.
    Incompetence. And they are failing at covering it up.
    Flying a jet is no different than riding a bicycle. It's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will G View Post
    Incompetence. And they are failing at covering it up.
    Last edited by jdon; 04-03-14 at 06:14 PM.

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    heard they found a big dead jellyfish. outstanding ...
    cycling is like baseball ~ it doesn't take much to make it interesting

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    My theory is still standing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
    heard they found a big dead jellyfish. outstanding ...
    Big enough to digest a 777-300?
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    Mothra got them.

    "He who serves all, best serves himself" Jack London

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    Colonel Mustard in the Library with the Candlestick.
    Flying a jet is no different than riding a bicycle. It's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

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    worm hole. I have seen it before... on CNN

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    This is a real tragedy none the less. It is another red flag for the commercial Airline industry to have more reliable tracking systems that do not have an override.

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    I think Russia and Iran heard about the impending Yellowstone Apocalypse and know they can do whatever they want cuz cuz soon we'll be lucky to be in a boat
    cycling is like baseball ~ it doesn't take much to make it interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdon View Post
    worm hole. I have seen it before... on CNN
    The same rocket surgeons that had a caption at the bottom of the screen that said, and I paraphrase, "Jet was unable to maintain altitude with no fuel" CNN seems to have cornered the collection of village idiots.
    Flying a jet is no different than riding a bicycle. It's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will G View Post
    The same rocket surgeons that had a caption at the bottom of the screen that said, and I paraphrase, "Jet was unable to maintain altitude with no fuel" CNN seems to have cornered the collection of village idiots.
    They did not get me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    They did not get me.
    It's just a matter of time, the right bait, and a big net. Pay no attention to strange looking stringy camo netting covering the sidewalk that the ice cold Dr. Pepper is sitting conveniently in the center of with the sign that says "Reserved for Jeff."
    Flying a jet is no different than riding a bicycle. It's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will G View Post
    It's just a matter of time, the right bait, and a big net. Pay no attention to strange looking stringy camo netting covering the sidewalk that the ice cold Dr. Pepper is sitting conveniently in the center of with the sign that says "Reserved for Jeff."
    I will send some Cheesies Will. You can bait him with those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdon View Post
    I will send some Cheesies Will. You can bait him with those.
    Dang, Dr. Pepper and cheesies. Throw in some BBQ brisket and there ain't enough room on a 777 for all the Texans you could catch in a couple hours. I'll be ensnared around lunchtime.
    Flying a jet is no different than riding a bicycle. It's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will G View Post
    Dang, Dr. Pepper and cheesies. Throw in some BBQ brisket and there ain't enough room on a 777 for all the Texans you could catch in a couple hours. I'll be ensnared around lunchtime.
    BBQ brisket! I might even show up.

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