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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    2-3 weeks is nothing.

    Last year, I went through several months of job hunting. I sent out 27 applications, and in Australia, the average application package is about 15-18 pages long consisting of a cover letter, a 3-4 page CV, and multiple pages addressing the selection criteria. I could manage 3 applications in a week ... and over the 27 applications, I would have put together a total of about 450 pages discussing how I could meet the needs of the organisation.

    Each week anywhere from 1-3 applications were sent off ... and each week I waited and waited and waited to hear anything. The shortest time period between submitting the application and hearing anything was about a month. Most of the time it was 6-8 weeks.

    Then I'd get a call asking me for an interview, and I'd be scrambling trying to remember who this was, and what the job was.

    So ... I wouldn't worry too much yet. There's still a decent chance you'll hear from someone.
    Boy, it's so different in the U.S.. 2 Page resume max, 1 page cover letter.

    For me, then there is also my portfolio website to show what I have done. I make a different landing page for each job application

    A good application requires about 8 hours to do well even with a giant 14 page master resume to narrow things down from. That way I don't have to rewrite points and won't forget anything. Then sentences get modified and the modified text gets included back into the master resume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
    Boy, it's so different in the U.S.. 2 Page resume max, 1 page cover letter.

    For me, then there is also my portfolio website to show what I have done. I make a different landing page for each job application

    A good application requires about 8 hours to do well even with a giant 14 page master resume to narrow things down from. That way I don't have to rewrite points and won't forget anything. Then sentences get modified and the modified text gets included back into the master resume.

    I know ... in Canada, it's recommended that you don't go over 4 pages + cover letter + references.

    Here, you've got that ... and then you have to address all the selection criteria.


    So, just as an example ... here's a job on offer in Victoria (the State that contains Melbourne):
    HR Systems Manager | Melbourne - CBD | Vacancies - Careers.vic.gov.au

    This is the PD for that position
    http://jobs.careers.vic.gov.au/jobto...438B841BBD5C71

    Scroll down to near the bottom of the PD, and you'll see Key Selection Criteria you need to address. Scroll down a little further and you'll see the Other Relevant Information section. Point 2 in that list provides you with a link to a page with advice on how to address the Key Selection Criteria.
    Tips for Applying - Careers

    Now, not all Key Selection Criteria are as challenging as these ones, some are fairly basic, but the more advanced the position, the more detailed the selection criteria. In this case, you're probably looking at 3 to 5 pages per criteria.


    It can take days to put together a good application, but if you're applying for similar jobs it does get a bit easier because there is some repetition. And each application gives you the chance to refine things.


    And the whole process can take a very long time. For the job I got, it was 3 months from when I sent in the application until everything was complete and I was officially offered the job.


    You just can't give up ... you've got to keep at it. I went to a job hunting class about a year ago to learn how to apply for work Australian style, and one of the things the instructor said was to count on the job hunting process taking 6 months.

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    Yeah, intimidating.

    My ex works in the medical field, so she uses a CV instead of a resume.

    But for the rest of us, they say that the Human Resources department is busy and that your resume has 10 seconds or less to catch their eye or out it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    2-3 weeks is nothing.

    Last year, I went through several months of job hunting. I sent out 27 applications, and in Australia, the average application package is about 15-18 pages long consisting of a cover letter, a 3-4 page CV, and multiple pages addressing the selection criteria. I could manage 3 applications in a week ... and over the 27 applications, I would have put together a total of about 450 pages discussing how I could meet the needs of the organisation.

    Each week anywhere from 1-3 applications were sent off ... and each week I waited and waited and waited to hear anything. The shortest time period between submitting the application and hearing anything was about a month. Most of the time it was 6-8 weeks.

    Then I'd get a call asking me for an interview, and I'd be scrambling trying to remember who this was, and what the job was.

    So ... I wouldn't worry too much yet. There's still a decent chance you'll hear from someone.
    That sounds intense. I am grateful I don't have to go through that.

    I had a second phone interview, I talked to the manager that I would work under and his boss. The manager didn't seem to like me much but his boss did so who knows what happens next, if anything. I choose to be optimistic but I am quite anxious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bici_mania View Post
    Update:

    My phone interview went well enough that I have a phone interview on Wednesday with the manager whom I will be working under, if that goes well I will get to have a behavioral interview in person. That sounds like fun.

    Sadly, I have not heard anything from any other jobs I have applied for two or three weeks ago. That is a huge let down. I am eager to move on.
    On the BI... I've conducted a few and I'll give one bit of advice: For each question, think of one specific true example, and tell that one specific story. If the interviewer is any good, a BI will either fit you to a suitable position or save you from a bad fit.
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    the OP knows the original email was spam right?
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