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    Quote Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
    Which one do you own?

    I have been using a DE razor for years (Merkur razor and Merkur blades).

    since getting my stents my doctor put me on anticoagulants. Now even a small nick can turn into a bleed-fest so I am considering getting an electric razor.

    That and I travel a lot and the DE blades are a big nay nay at the TSA checkpoints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trsidn View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgjackson View Post
    I always shave in the shower. Just lather up with some Lever 2000 soap and have at it with the disposable. How important is the heavy lather with a DE? I have no interest in this becoming a time consuming "ritual" and I'm not looking for a "man experience". It's a necessary evil that I just want to get done with quickly every morning. I'm not going to have time to soak the bristles on the wisk thingy, then whip up a lather and all that.

    Anyone else use their DE in the shower with just soap?
    I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that a DE isn't for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOS88 View Post
    I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that a DE isn't for you.
    You might be right. It came in the mail today.
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    **Shave report**

    Well, used the razor for the first time just now. I must say I really like it. I am surprised at how close a shave I was able to get and my face doesn't feel like it was just sandblasted. It took a few minutes to figure out the correct angle, but once I did it was very smooth. Didn't pull at all like the cartridge razors. The neck was a little tricky, and I did get a few very small nicks that stopped bleeding with a little cold water, but overall it went much better than expected. I don't think I can do this in the shower, but I can definately do it after the shower and probably only take an extra couple of minutes. Didn't use a later. It came with some stuff you just rub on your face to make it slick and it worked just fine. I am really impressed with how nice my face feels. With a little more practice I think this can be my new routine.

    All you guys who think this is way too old-school should give it a try. I paid $30 for a Parker 60R butterfly razor and 20 blades. I say give it a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgjackson View Post
    **Shave report**

    Well, used the razor for the first time just now. I must say I really like it. I am surprised at how close a shave I was able to get and my face doesn't feel like it was just sandblasted. It took a few minutes to figure out the correct angle, but once I did it was very smooth. Didn't pull at all like the cartridge razors. The neck was a little tricky, and I did get a few very small nicks that stopped bleeding with a little cold water, but overall it went much better than expected. I don't think I can do this in the shower, but I can definately do it after the shower and probably only take an extra couple of minutes. Didn't use a later. It came with some stuff you just rub on your face to make it slick and it worked just fine. I am really impressed with how nice my face feels. With a little more practice I think this can be my new routine.

    All you guys who think this is way too old-school should give it a try. I paid $30 for a Parker 60R butterfly razor and 20 blades. I say give it a try.
    Did you use regular soap?

    I switched from double edge to disposable several years ago but the cost of the disposables is making me rethink my decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgjackson View Post
    **Shave report**

    Well, used the razor for the first time just now. I must say I really like it. I am surprised at how close a shave I was able to get and my face doesn't feel like it was just sandblasted. It took a few minutes to figure out the correct angle, but once I did it was very smooth. Didn't pull at all like the cartridge razors. The neck was a little tricky, and I did get a few very small nicks that stopped bleeding with a little cold water, but overall it went much better than expected. I don't think I can do this in the shower, but I can definately do it after the shower and probably only take an extra couple of minutes. Didn't use a later. It came with some stuff you just rub on your face to make it slick and it worked just fine. I am really impressed with how nice my face feels. With a little more practice I think this can be my new routine.

    All you guys who think this is way too old-school should give it a try. I paid $30 for a Parker 60R butterfly razor and 20 blades. I say give it a try.
    Try some old school shaving soaps and/or creams. You'll likely never go back to the canned stuff. I only use the canned stuff when on vacation and it's more convenient. Real shave soaps are creamier and the scents are numerous and refreshing. Makes one rethink the "necessary evil" mindset. Also look into the shave sticks (for example). They're a bit more convenient than the pucks.

    As for shaving the neck, it's very individual. I cannot do ATG (against the grain) much. And none of that three-pass business. My mug wouldn't tolerate it. But yes, it does do a better/smoother job IMO. And it's cheaper. Win win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    Did you use regular soap?

    I switched from double edge to disposable several years ago but the cost of the disposables is making me rethink my decision.
    I did not use soap. I used this sample size cream stuff that came with the razor. Squeeze a little in your palm and rub it in. Doesn't foam up, just makes the skin slippery.
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    Gilette Super Speeds and fatboys here. I use any old blades I find on sale. The key for me is changing them out after two uses, otherwise they are too dull and I bleed.

    I can get a week or two out of a Mach 3 cartridge...the DE blades are still way way cheaper.
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    I shave with a machete and motor oil

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    Second shave today. I am amazed at how close this thing gets. Several minor nicks on my neck. The styptic pencil helps. I think I just went too fast. The neck is really difficult. I will say the disposable razors are better on the difficult areas of my neck, but the DE kicks butt everywhere else. I am going to give this about a month before I decide if I want to stick with the DE or go back to disposable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgjackson View Post
    I think I just went too fast. The neck is really difficult.
    Yep

    I usually go upwards on the neck but not too fast with the new blade. Once they get a little dull you can loosen them up a bit and keep on using them for quite awhile. But when they're new keep 'em cinched down tight and slow down and take it easy.....Adam's apple is a slow-down spot.

    If you're a bleeder just pack a minute piece of TP across the nick until it dries. Sometimes I forget I have the new blade in and do that after a month or more of using the old blade. I'll probably also forget I have the piece of TP stuck on my face and show up for work with it until somebody mentions it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgjackson View Post
    Second shave today. I am amazed at how close this thing gets. Several minor nicks on my neck. The styptic pencil helps. I think I just went too fast. The neck is really difficult. I will say the disposable razors are better on the difficult areas of my neck, but the DE kicks butt everywhere else. I am going to give this about a month before I decide if I want to stick with the DE or go back to disposable.
    I had to go more diagonal on the neck since switching to a DE, especially around the Adam's apple. I shave every fourth day, maybe third but that's pushing it...too tender on the neck. And I shave before showering since showering takes care of nicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgjackson View Post
    Second shave today. I am amazed at how close this thing gets. Several minor nicks on my neck. The styptic pencil helps. I think I just went too fast. The neck is really difficult. I will say the disposable razors are better on the difficult areas of my neck, but the DE kicks butt everywhere else. I am going to give this about a month before I decide if I want to stick with the DE or go back to disposable.
    I suspect every person has unique trouble spots. The key is to use an approach that works for you. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I use a three pass system. Even with this, I have two spots on my neck that seem to easily nick. I've learned to pull the skin a bit tighter with my free hand when going over those spots. It's only on days when I'm in a hurry that I forget to do that and run a 50/50 change of getting a small nick. You're right about the styptic pencil. For me it closes them up instantly with no problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOS88 View Post
    I suspect every person has unique trouble spots. The key is to use an approach that works for you. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I use a three pass system. Even with this, I have two spots on my neck that seem to easily nick. I've learned to pull the skin a bit tighter with my free hand when going over those spots. It's only on days when I'm in a hurry that I forget to do that and run a 50/50 change of getting a small nick. You're right about the styptic pencil. For me it closes them up instantly with no problems.
    It works, but feels like little bee-stings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skijor View Post
    I had to go more diagonal on the neck since switching to a DE, especially around the Adam's apple. I shave every fourth day, maybe third but that's pushing it...too tender on the neck. And I shave before showering since showering takes care of nicks.
    I have been shaving almost daily for the last 20+ years. The longest I have ever gone without is 3 days.
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    ***One-Month update***

    In a nutshell, the DE razor is pretty awesome. My face has never been so smooth. Just to make sure, about a week ago I went back to my old cartridge razor and it sucked. I will be honest, that first week was rough. Lots of bleeding...but after I powered through that it has been great. It's almost like washing a car. You can wash it with soap and a sponge and it will look pretty good, but swipe you hand across the paint and it will feel slightly gritty. Now, go get a clay-bar and wipe it down and see how much gunk is still on there. Then your paint will be smooth as glass. The DE razor is like a clay bar. The first couple of shaves are like that clay bar, cleaning up the rough stuff. Because of that it will create some small cuts. All of that went away after about two weeks and my skin is crazy smooth now.

    I think a lot of guys just quit the DE after a week because of all the nicks...I almost did. But now I can't imagine going back to disposable. It does take some technique and a little patience (you can't just quickly whip the razor around your face like a cartridge), but once you perfected the technique it truly is a superior shave. I don't use the wisk, I shave in the shower with some simple cream. Takes about 2-3 minutes longer than before. If you tried it before and gave up quickly, I recommend you tray again and give it a month.
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