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Old 05-05-14, 12:49 PM   #1
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ˇFeliz Cinco de Mayo! (Foo Historical Trivia and pretty cool history at that!)

Cinco de Mayo should be a US holiday as well as a Mexican one. Historical fact: The US may well owe its current existence to Benito Juarez. When he rebelled against the French Occupation of Mexico, he derailed plans that the government of France had to march French Regular troops up through Texas in support of the Confederacy. If this had happened, best case scenario would have been a significantly weakened USA with the CSA on the Southern border and loss of control of over half the Mississippi River for commerce. Worst case scenario would then be the French, betraying and annexing the CSA after it was supported just enough to win independence, but sufficiently weakened to fall to France shortly after, and then the French marching north again to a US that was already exhausted from a bloody civil war, and falling to French rule as well.

We have old french Intelligence docs from the period that discussed just these scenarios and the plan to support the CSA was already started toward action when Juarez kicked off the Mexican Revolution. ˇThink about that as you sip on your Corona or XXX beer this evening and raise your bottle and say SALUD a Juarez y feliz le Cinco de Mayo!
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Old 05-05-14, 01:38 PM   #2
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Selling that chunk of "their" land, to POTUS Jefferson, needing the money, after having Haitians hand Napoleon's troops a defeat..

then conniving to take it back .
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Just think how excited Texas would be if it were still part of Mexico . . . .
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Never trust the French.
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One of the most sacred relics in French military lore is the wooden hand of Captain Danjou. During the battle of Camaron (shrimp) in 1863, the French Foreign legion was defeated by the Juaristas. The entire company was wiped out and the prosthetic wooden hand was captured and recaptured and is now marched around at the head of the Legion parade commemorating the battle. This was but the first in a long line of defeats celebrated by the French. Now Thats cool!
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What Cinco de Mayo means to me... I have to be home early, before dark, because the roads will be dangerous from all the drunks... this and St Patrick's day as well as New Year's need to be banned...
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One of the most sacred relics in French military lore is the wooden hand of Captain Danjou. During the battle of Camaron (shrimp) in 1863, the French Foreign legion was defeated by the Juaristas. The entire company was wiped out and the prosthetic wooden hand was captured and recaptured and is now marched around at the head of the Legion parade commemorating the battle. This was but the first in a long line of defeats celebrated by the French. Now Thats cool!
You learn that reading POurnelle or history? Either is fine, but Pouernelle's Falkenberg stories in the CoDominion Wars is much more entertaining.

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What Cinco de Mayo means to me... I have to be home early, before dark, because the roads will be dangerous from all the drunks... this and St Patrick's day as well as New Year's need to be banned...
Only holiday I was ever hit by a drunk driver on was Christmas Day. I spent that Christmas and about a week after in the hospital because I was walking in the sidewalk and the drunk missed 3 parked cars and hit me, breaking my thigh and concussing me. Does that mean I should think Christmas could be banned? I was noting a historically interesting point, and the thread isn't about discussing the merits of drinking on a holiday.....leave that in P&R, please.
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I'm going to copy this thread in parallel to P&R, and watch the directions both go, as an experiment.
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I thought it was just a celebration of the propaganda coup of Ignacio Zaragoza’s winning the first battle of Puebla
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I thought Cinco de Mayo was Jose Cuervo's birthday.
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What Cinco de Mayo means to me... I have to be home early, before dark, because the roads will be dangerous from all the drunks...

this and St Patrick's day as well as New Year's need to be banned...
my friends and regular drinking buddies call those Amateur nights , though the chamber of commerce adds a few more .

Wine and Seafood festival just a couple weeks ago was a bit nuts .. as usual, every year.. gives the Sheriff's DUI squad of cars something to do.

there busses from the fair grounds , then the parking lot is where they wait..


and the perps pay the fine or come back again for court.
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