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Old 05-06-14, 07:43 PM   #1
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Ink Jet Printer Ink: Is it that valuable?

Or rare?

I had a bad experience with a refilled HP multi-color cartridge once and have bought new since.

I am currently using a Epson Stylus Photo RX580. This is kind of stupid because what I need is a B&W laser for hard copy but I love having the copier & scanner function.

Are single color refills OK?

Thoughts on MF printers?
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I bought a set of off-brand cartridges for our Brother MFC once, they didn't work at all.
Fast-foward through a couple more years of buying expensive cartridges, and I got tired of it and ordered a bunch of generic ones online. They work great and they are dirt cheap.
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I bought a set of off-brand cartridges for our Brother MFC once, they didn't work at all.
Fast-foward through a couple more years of buying expensive cartridges, and I got tired of it and ordered a bunch of generic ones online. They work great and they are dirt cheap.
That's what I googled before posting this.

Any good sites to recommend?
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Buy a cheap-o printer for printing text, dedicate the photo printer to photos. Don't run anything but Epson ink through it.
I use 5 different printers for work, each has a dedicated task.
Ink for photo printer is more expensive so do waste it printing text. Same goes for the print heads, don't put excess wear on them if you don't have to.

Ink is stupid expensive. Four of the five printers at work cost north of a hundred bucks to load, one costs $800.
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Printing ink is a gamed controlled market.
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Convert the cost of ink into gallons and you come up with some crazy number. Oddest thing I remember was seeing a new printer with ink that cost less than just the ink alone.
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I always price consumables when I price printers. It is an important part of my buying decision. We have a store called Cartridge World close to us that offers some savings on off brand cartridges and gives money for empties.

https://www.cartridgeworld.com/dallas-tx/75248-0286/

I too have seen where it is cheaper to buy the printer than to replace the cartridges. Silly actually.
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That's what I googled before posting this.

Any good sites to recommend?
I think I ordered my most recent set of winning generic cartridges from either TigerDirect or Newegg.

*click click*

They were LD brand cartridges and they did indeed come from Newegg. $26.99 for a 10-pack (4 black, 2 cyan, 2 magenta, 2 yellow) last August. So a little over $3 a cartridge after shipping.

As to thoughts on MFCs, we got one because Mrs. A needed a fax for a job she had for a while. Since then, the scanner has been very handy. Photo printing is good, but we don't use it very often. I also like that our Brother has an Ethernet port so I can not use the wireless on it.

We also paid $40 for a $80 printer, so I am not complaining about costs especially now that we have found generic cartridges that do not suck.
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I'll have to try those. I've tried refills and rebuilt and have never had any luck.
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Laser printers are surprisingly cheap these days.
and their toners never dry out.

Even the MF colour laser printers are getting quite cheap.
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I'm happy with my HP OfficeJet Pro 8600. Yes, the ink is expensive, but it seems to last a long time. I primarily print tax forms in black only. One XL black cartridge ($35) will get me through ~100 tax returns worth of printing.
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Laser printers are surprisingly cheap these days.
and their toners never dry out.

Even the MF colour laser printers are getting quite cheap.

Who are you? What is next a post by Psydotek or Cylowe97 or Cypress or Eboo?
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Maybe the printers are cheap because they subsidize their cost with high priced ink cartridges?
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Just think of all the squids they have to squeeze, surprisingly cheap actually.
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When you think about it, ink takes a lot more R&D. Not enough to justify the consumer purchase price, IMO, but still costs more to develop. Toner is(roughly)half/half iron and plastic. I imagine more time is spent on the design of the cartridge itself than the toner.
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So I guess what I need to look for is a small, in fact car portable, laser printer would be ideal...

Hmm...

...mmmaybe I'd like this:

Amazon.com: Canon LBP6200D Monochrome Printer: Electronics

or


Amazon.com: Brother HL-2270DW Compact Laser Printer with Wireless Networking and Duplex: Electronics

Ooh, the Brother looks good...
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The only issue I've had with my Brother MFC is that network scanning won't work in Linux, but that's probably because I haven't tried hard enough, I have a Windows VM, and my wife's Mac is right over there.
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I've about decided on a Brother Wireless Laser for around $140 from Amazon.

Scans, copies and turns out 27 ppm.

There's a Canon I'll look at.
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I throw the printer away when it need ink
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Says the guy that prints 40 pages a year...
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Says the guy that prints 40 pages a year...
Yeah, printing is going away as a market. The phone/tablet/phablet market is going great guns, and printers are a commodity.

My wife and I are both ex-HP people: we moved up here so she could work on inkjet drivers in the Windows "NT5" days (what became XP), and I did some contract work building and smoke-testing installers for the 710/730/750 inkjets. That was when H-P still had production lines here in Vancouver. That went offshore in the late '90's, and the H-P presence in town is a shadow of what it once was.

FWIW: There's an Officejet 6500A in front of me. It works fine on the home network, hooked to our mixture of XP and Win 7 boxes. Don't use it all that much, though. The replacement ink tanks cost a bomb. I haven't tried the refilled tanks yet.
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Yeah, a bomb is right.

I am at the stage trying to figure out where I'll place the laser printer.

All of my photo stuff except the rare, occasional spur of the moment job for the wife I take to a pro printer. I think it will take the color printer's foot print in the office and I'll figure out what to do with the Epson.
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