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Old 03-24-05, 07:49 PM   #51
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Honestly everything up until possibly grade 12 is a joke. Some Gr12 courses BUILD on previous knowledge, math being one of them. Others not really.

Sciences are only dependent on Grade 11 stuff. Rest is moot.
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Old 03-24-05, 10:26 PM   #52
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Speaking of room, are you doing the montauk 140?
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Old 03-24-05, 10:37 PM   #53
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Repeating 9th grade isn't so bad. I have many fond memories from when I repeated 9th. It was the best four years of my life.
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Honestly everything up until possibly grade 12 is a joke. Some Gr12 courses BUILD on previous knowledge, math being one of them. Others not really.

Sciences are only dependent on Grade 11 stuff. Rest is moot.
How about all of the things learned in elementary school? So much of what we can do now is planted back then. Example, do you stop to think about 2x4? How about 9+5? Most of the things we do now, without even knowing or thinking, is due to things we learned in elementary. I think the big jokes are what I call the "intermediate years", as in 7-8-9, where they just stick you somewhere doing pointless things so you can focus on getting through puberty and maturing to handle 10th grade biology. I feel your pain, but like it or not, life is MUCH harder than just a few pages of homework a night.
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Pff...homework....*shudders* look dude, when I go home I don't go there to be bugged with work I go there to kick back and relax and ride.
I have a suggestion for you. See if you can work out something with the school where you can stay after and do your homework there before you go home. If not, go to the library and do it there. Or to Starbucks. Or anywhere else where you won't be distracted. Or go to school early and do it. Work on it during lunch. Find ways to minimize or eliminate the amount of work you'll actually have to do at home. That way you can still 'kick back and relax and ride' when you get home.
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Honestly, I don't believe you aced tests. I believe your first post when you said you "passed" tests. If you ace tests, you don't walk around saying you "passed". You say "I aced those tests".

It sounds to me like you are avoiding homework for two major reasons: 1) you are lazy; and 2) you feel like homework is a waste. There's a third minor reason you mentioned: 3) when you get home, you don't want to be bothered with homework.

The problem is, homework is there for a reason. You DON'T study (you say you do, and I saw that deleted post, thank you), because homework is the study part. There's little chance that you are studying and not doing your homework, because if you were truly studying, the homework would be part of your study routine. Unfortunately, somewhere along the line, you were not taught good study skills and homework wasn't emphasized. With the vast amount of homework given, it should be pretty obvious that homework will make up a good percentage of your grade. If you were my student with that attitude and didn't do your homework, I'd fail you.

It sounds like overall, you think school is a big waste. For that, I say why bother? Drop out of school and head over to KFC and get yourself a job. Work your way up the ladder at the KFC frachise and try to get a career going. It won't be all lost if you don't go for an education. There are people who don't get a traditional education and still do well at life. Unfortunately, it's not a high percentage of people, but if you are a hard worker, you can maybe get into a career the hard way. Don't waste state dollars if you aren't bothering with the education provided.

Or...

You can go to school, commit yourself to the studies and get through it. It's how millions of kids do it, and it seems to work all over the world (imagine that!). Get at least your high school degree and see if college is the place for you or if there's a job with your name written all over it. If the school you're at isn't working for you at all, consider one of those alternative schools where they are more "trade based" and have alternative structures for kids who just want to study one specific topic. There are schools out there, but you do have to show a certain kind of maturity and ability to be a self-starter. If that kind of school read the comments you are leaving, they'd turn you down too. An attitude adjustment and some real soul-searching as to why you aren't succeeding would be necessary for you to pinpoint where your problem is and rectify the situation so you can determine which way you'll be heading next in your school career.

I like Monogodo's idea- you do get study hall and you do have lunch. If all the teachers want is some stinkin' homework done, then as it's assigned, do it during school and if you don't get it all done by the last bell, come in 30 minutes early for school the next morning and finish it. If you can't, track the teacher down and tell them you had problems with the school work so you came early. That would impress the teacher- how many kids actually are concerned enough to come in early for help? They may tend to give you more time to finish it once they've helped you through the problem spots, and it'll show them that you really are putting effort into your studies.

For a teacher to give you a straight "F", they would have to be sending you a message: "you aren't trying, so we aren't even going to try and grade you. Do it over". I'm sure this is no shock. You get midterms, and there are PTA meetings and stuff like that. I refuse to believe that out of the blue, you get a report card with F's all over the place, and you had no idea it was coming. I believe you did know, and you didn't care until the full ramifications of what a full report card of F's would mean. Being held back sucks, but I believe you stepped right into this one, and your lack of enthusiasm and inactivity leads them to have no choice but to fail you. School sucks, but for all the folks over 18 on the forums, we all went through it and we didn't grow three heads, lose our dang minds, or become worse off for it. School makes you a better person, gives you a decent education, and determines your life. It sounds like you're off to a pretty bad start, and it's no wonder your mother is so frustrated and inclined to make you repeat. Why go through all the hassle of dragging you off every morning to summer school so you can repeat the pattern and STILL be held back? If you were my kid, I'd tell you that you're going to have to repeat too. It just doesn't sound like you're getting the lesson learned here, so until you do, I can see that you're going to be stuck in a 9th grade time loop. Get comfortable.

For all the rest of you young-uns, I personally feel like school is much easier for you guys. Sheesh! Since when did any of us get to use calculators on our SATs? Or any tests? The first time I got to use a calculator was in college. All that stuff with graphing that you guys punch the numbers in to get the slope of whatever we had to do in our HEADS. And the books we had to read were similar to yours, but I still remember reading a heck of a lot more. And we didn't have teachers and parents talking about our feelings or any crap like that. It was school or else. If we didn't come home with a load of books nearly breaking our backs, it wasn't a good school. I spent my last two years memorizing the textbooks necessary so I could ace my chemistry, biology and anatomy classes. No biggie. It was a pain in the butt, but I still got through it. We had to dissect pigs and frogs and mice. No stupid computer programs because we were vegans. If we had peer pressure, all we had were those stupid after school specials that were badly acted. Nowadays, they have elaborate productions and superstars and shows dealing with that stuff. The best thing they had for us was DeGrassi Jr. High and DeGrassi High, and that was Canadian! . Even in band class, we had to learn theory behind the music, and damned if we didn't get graded on sight-reading skills and have to memorize every single scale and play it back during auditions. I'm surprised I didn't have gall stones from the stress. In fact, I had major migranes every year when I was in high school. College was much less stressful for me and a lot more fun. It was my reward for making it through that hell they called high school. So suck it up! Millions and millions of kids around the world are going through what you are, and if you think you have it bad, you don't. If it was that bad, school would be outlawed. Get through school and move on to the rest of your life and what is being offered for you. If you really think you are so smart and you don't need the school, it's easy. Drop out, get a job, and move out of your parent's place and make it out there in the world. But if you don't think you can do it, get your butts to class and get what you can out of it. Besides, college is the best. You've got something you can work towards. High school is not that bad. Deal with it. We all did, and none of us birthed three-headed babies as a result of going to high school... yet.

Good luck to all you young ones.

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Old 03-24-05, 11:59 PM   #57
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Old 03-25-05, 12:48 AM   #58
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Old 03-25-05, 01:38 AM   #59
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Proving that you never learn the most important things while in school. Launching latex gloves is pretty fun too. All in the wrist, but since I was the only one that knew how I couldn't bean the TA and get away with it.
Amateurs! You need to graduate to stuff like seeing how depressed you can get the lab-wide O2 detector (without setting off the alarm and blue rotating lights) using a can of trichloro duster or placing a couple of drops of butyric acid in the ventilation system.
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Old 03-25-05, 01:40 AM   #60
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Where did you find these losers (unless she was a materials major and bored or something)? I guess it could be worse.
Ahem! I was a matsci geek... okay well... it came with the territory.
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Old 03-25-05, 02:20 AM   #61
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and don't skip sleep. that will seriously mess you up. just look at slvoid. he just sits around ogeling this forum all day.
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thats what class is for

heck im a junior in college and i still fall asleep in class
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Some of the best sleep I've ever had was Econ 101 lecture. I was having such good sleeps I had to drop that class at midterms.

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Old 03-25-05, 11:20 AM   #63
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Speaking of room, are you doing the montauk 140?
i wanted to do the 100, but getting there is such a pain in the azz. so, i might do either the 65 or the 140 not sure yet. montauk is a cool ride though.
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Some of the best sleep I've ever had was Econ 101 lecture. I was having such good sleeps I had to drop that class at midterms.

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Ah heck, I slept every day in one of my senior level Ethics courses last year, and the prof liked me the best.

Probably because no matter how much I slept, if he woke me up I could jump right back in the discussion
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I tried to do that in my web design class. The teacher leaned over, woke me up, and crossly declared that if I liked to sleep so much, I shouldn't be there. I very crossly and loudly declared that if he actually had a clue about webdesign and html, I wouldn't need to take a sleep to begin with. He was such a twit. He hadn't a clue about web design. The computer lab monitor next door actually would tell us about how to do proper web design and roll his eyes about the teacher the whole time. I got zip, zero, nada from that guy. We hated each other's guts. I got the A, but it was no thanks to that idiot.

It wasn't even good sleep. It was like jerk-y, interrupted nightmare-ish type of sleep. You'd think he'd be good at giving me a good sleep if he couldn't teach, at least. He was just horrible.

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i wanted to do the 100, but getting there is such a pain in the azz. so, i might do either the 65 or the 140 not sure yet. montauk is a cool ride though.
NYCommuter might have a friend drive out, park their car there, and take the train back like the day before. So we can get a ride back after the ride.
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Ah heck, I slept every day in one of my senior level Ethics courses last year, and the prof liked me the best.

Probably because no matter how much I slept, if he woke me up I could jump right back in the discussion
I cheated on my engineering ethics test and got an A!
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I cheated on my engineering ethics test and got an A!
Yeah? Well, I outsourced the answers on my engineering econ test and got an A.
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Well I might just be the over-achiever in college must I? In the span of Fall Semester-Winterim-Spring Semester I have missed 1 class and never slept in any. That one class was also missed to a legit excuse, for I had broken my ankle the night before and I couldn't walk to class and had to go to the doctors.
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Neeeeeerd!

Actually, in that ethics class, I missed 3 weeks in a row due to foot surgery. The day I came back he expected me to take the test I missed. Needless to say I was not prepared. He just gave it to me and told me to go take it and bring it back.

Well.. half the questions on the test rode on the answer to a particular one. After I finished I couldn't help it. I checked the answer (so.. technically cheating) with my notes. But I had it right.

I ended up breaking the curve the other people had set
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Yeah. Not every college student has the perfect story. That econ teacher of mine was so boring it was unbelieveable. Luckily, it was an elective for me, so I dropped it. I can't even remember what class I picked up in it's place, but it at least kept me awake. Uuuugh. Econ.

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You sure don't write like a kid getting straight F's. Expletives aside, you write rather well.
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