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    help me choose a kayak

    I don't want to make my own I want to pay around 550 .it will be for lake lanier not sure if I want a sit on kayak ive heard there slower is this true?

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    It's all relative. There are as many variants of kayaks as bikes. For flatwater paddling, you'll want something on the longer end of the spectrum (12-15'), possibly with a rudder or skeg. Find a place you can test drive. For $550, look at used stuff. For that $, you're talking a plastic boat, which is fine. They're heavy, but bombproof.

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    this 1 is in the lead im hopeing the hatches are water proof so it don't sink if flipped Perception Sport Conduit 13 Kayak - Dick's Sporting Goods

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    Quote Originally Posted by windhchaser View Post
    this 1 is in the lead im hopeing the hatches are water proof so it don't sink if flipped Perception Sport Conduit 13 Kayak - Dick's Sporting Goods
    Very few if any kayaks will "sink if flipped", including even the kind where it's all single open space beneath the deck. Waterproof hatches will make it easier for you to turn it back up again if it does flip and you have to exit. They will also protect your gear from spray and splashes during normal upright paddling.

    The kayak you linked to is "rudder capable" but does not come with one. Like skijor said, a rudder or skeg helps you maintain a straight line especially in windy conditions, and especially if you're not an experienced paddler.

    Remember to leave some budget for vest and paddle. Plus rudder, if you wish to get one.

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    If there is a "try before you buy" event nearby, I would take them up on that. Kayaks come in many variations of lengths, widths and hulls to fit a variety of roles. In your description of use, I think a touring Kayak might be best. However, a recreational kayak is the only one that fits your budget. There is a bit of crossover between touring and recreational.

    This site is a good place to go for reviews: Conduit 13 Kayak by Perception Sport - Kayak Reviews

    Also, think about what you might want to do with the kayak. Do you want to camp out of it? Do you want to fish?

    BTW, kayaks are the official vessel of the Amish Navy.

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    Try these folk....first, you can rent various models, and they may well have some well maintained used former rental boats to save some bucks, and they deliver.

    Canoe & Kayak of North Georgia

    They service Lake Lanier....I assume you're in North Ga, but if not, they appear to have a wide delivery area, except for the Chattahoochie River.
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    I spent a lot of time looking at kayaks before I bought my Current Designs Pacifica, owned it for years now.

    Good points are the whole rear end is sealed storage and there's a buoyancy tank at the front so it's impossible to sink, I know because I've used it in big surf and rolled it trying to ride waves, lots of fun.

    The rudder can be lifted and lowered sitting in it, it's good to have in rivers with lots of bends and obstacles, you can drift along and place the nose wherever you like. It saves a lot of effort with your arms. I think choosing the right gear I could carry enough gear to live for a weeks exploring, just need someone 3 or 400km down stream with a car for a pickup. I've done 100km's in a day.

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    ty for the advice everyone I already have 2 paddles a vest and a cart. i used to have a pelican 10 foot kayak

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    Be mindful of weight and length if you'll be handling the kayak by yourself. The longer the better for paddling a straight line.

    My last boat was an open cockpit kayak, which was a natural haven for spiders and other critters. My next will be a lighter weight, high visibility, flat top model (no cockpit) with spacious water proof compartments. This style is popular in Florida for fishing, but they're good for general paddling, too.

    The type of water you'll be paddling in and your purpose (fitness, fishing, white water, etc.) will pretty much dictate the hull design.

    Dick's, BassPro, Cabella's and other sporting equipment centers are great for comparing features, getting advice and developing a feel for pricing.

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    There are White Water Short Roto-Molded Kayaks Too, people surf with them too ..

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    Short kayaks are slower but wider so there more stable but slower.

    Long kayaks like mine are fast and narrow for a close to the body paddling action and low drag though the water but less stable.

    The one you linked to sits in the middle somewhere. A good for every thing master of none, depend what you intend to use it for, think about that! But if your not sure it's a good one to start with. The back supports in that style are very comfortable also. I like it.
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    Not much to add here other than one sage piece of advice: Do not buy walmart kayaks.
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    You are a fair weather guy , since its a sit on top rather than a sit in it type.

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    I've been looking at new folding kayaks for a few years, ever since I got rid of my old wooden framed folding kayak. Today's models fold up into the size of a backpack. Perfect if you do lots of travelling. I want to be able to check them as luggage on planes for when I'm heading to a place with a decent body of water.

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    Wifey has a Perception Prodigy 10 footer:

    I've got a fairly old Old Town Loon I pick up used and cheap 2 years ago:

    They are both very nice for what we use them for, mostly fairly slow moving rivers and occasional trips into the ocean on calm days, but the Old Town is noticeably lighter than the Perception. I am the lucky one who gets to load them.

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    ty for all the replys everyone

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    Has anyone tried this thing origami kayak? It looks like it packs down very small and it's only 26 pounds. I guess there's no storage and... does it sink if you get water in it?

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    I do want it easier to paddle then my 10 foot pelican pursuit

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    First of all, a $550 budget for a kayak is kind of like a $550 budget for a new bike. Craigslist, a leftover, or a good sale sale somewhere is what you need to make that work.

    You need to thing about transport. If your car topping the weight needs to be something you can manage solo. One of my kayaks is over 70 lbs. I can car top it solo, but it kicks my butt.

    What are you going to be doing with it? If you're just covering water get a sit-in, the longer and narrower the better.

    If you're going to be fishing, long is still good but you want to be thinking about something a little wider so you have a little more stability. I spend more time standing in my fishing kayak than I spent sitting. If your out fishing for a whole day its great to be able to stand. Also something with an open deck. If your fishing you want to be able to get to all of your gear quickly and easily. Hatches are a pain to deal with on open water.

    Weather, and water; if you're going to be strictly a calm water and fair weather user anything will work. But, if you're going to be paddling out through breakers, and out on the water rain or shine, a sit-on-top is something to think about. They're self bailing.

    Other people; if you have kids, a wife, or a girlfriend that you may want to take along every once in while something that can convert to a tandem is awesome. Two of my kayaks can go solo to tandem easily and its a huge plus in my book.

    Retail kayak pricing is hugely intimidating, just like bikes. I got my first kayak on sale a really good price. My second two were leftovers, right place, right time. Go to some kayak specific shops and look for anything on the floor that looks like it's last years model, or older. - Good luck

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    does weight make a difence once you get in the water? or does the water support all the weight I have a nice kayak cart to get the yak to the water

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    this is where ill be boating holly park is like 10 feet from my back doorlake.jpg

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    Oh how I hate you this morning Windy.. that is a nice looking lake. I look forward to seeing what you get anyhow.
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    OK you have a large area to get around in. If your doing it to get fit and not camping out and doing it yourself then I suggest a long narrow yak for speed. Mine is reasonably fast but they come a hell of a lot faster than mine.

    I suggest looking second hand and getting something better than you might get new. The thing about kayaks is if there stored under cover they never wear out, also if there's no hazards in these water ways consider fiberglass and you have a cart.
    Weight does matter when it comes to drag through the water. Fast kayaks come up on a plane out of water at speed.
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