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Old 08-13-14, 08:47 PM   #76
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My current favorite is Hop Venom from Boneyard Beer in Bend, OR. I cannot stress enough how much you need this beer!
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The sad thing about this thread is that there are so many local microbrews that don't bottle or distribute out of a particular area... Heck I can think of 6 or 8 locally that offer ales that none of you would ever have the chance to taste, yet these can be quite interesting.

I saw a "Modern Marvels" show the other day that talked about brewing in America... the show emphasized that Anheuser Busch was still the largest brewer in America, followed by Miller, then Coors, then some other more localized volume brewers... encompassing some 98% of all the beer in America.

The show also noted a surge in local microbrews, (and a resurgence in good tasting beer) but also indicated that these microbrews were barely a drop in the barrel when compared to AB et. al.. Yet, if you truly want a good brew, you no doubt steer away from the volume brewers.

Locally, I have available:
Stone Stone Brewing Co.
Green Flash Green Flash Brewing Company
Ballast Point Ballast Point
Rough Draft Rough Draft Brewing Company San Diego, CA
Societe Societe Brewing Company
Coronado Coronado Brewing Company

And these are just the larger microbrews... the ones that actually bottle and distribute.
There are quite a few more that just brew, keg and deliver to local pubs and restaurants. Stuff you would never taste unless you went to a local tasting room or pub or eatery.

Alpine Brewing company Alpine Beer Company: Drink Alpine beer or go to bed!
Alesmith AleSmith Brewing Company
Mike Hess Hess Brewing
Helms Brewing Helm's Brewing Co.
Modern Times http://moderntimesbeer.com/
And many more... these are all "small operations" about 3-4 2 car garage sized sized shops.

And then there was (note, I said "was"):
Wet and Reckless Wet n Reckless Brewing ? San Diego, Mira Mesa just about 1 garaged size of an operation. It burned down a few weeks ago. Fire destroys Wet ?N Reckless Brewing | San Diego Reader



As you can see, Wet and Reckless was something of a spartan operation... but yet another growler fill resource of interesting ales. Too bad they were just a bit reckless.

So with just a few of these locals in mind... really, how can we honestly "talk beer," when odds are, you'll never taste that which exists locally...
Wow, looks like quite a scene going on in San Diego nowadays. I moved away in '93. Up here in the Pacific Northwest we get a lot from over in Portland and Seattle that probably don't get distributed elsewhere so I've stopped mentioning the ones not from a major brewery. I envy your choice down there. Another reason to miss San Diego.
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Wow, looks like quite a scene going on in San Diego nowadays. I moved away in '93. Up here in the Pacific Northwest we get a lot from over in Portland and Seattle that probably don't get distributed elsewhere so I've stopped mentioning the ones not from a major brewery. I envy your choice down there. Another reason to miss San Diego.
Folks in Portland and the surrounding area have quite a mix of their own from which to choose... from Full Sail to Rogue to Henry's Tavern (not technically a brewery... but those ice tracks in the bar just "kick it up a notch.") Henry's Tavern: American Bar & Grill

And for a list of a few of Portland areas "finest:"
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And for a list of a few of Portland areas "finest:"
Portland Area Breweries
OK thanks. I've bookmarked those and will keep an eye out to see if any of those make it inland to Spokane. Inversion IPA is the only Portland beer I've tried so far. It's one of those hoppier west coast IPAs that won't be a go to for me but I'm always willing to sample.

I'm liking some of Oregon's Pinot Noir wines too......selectively.
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OK thanks. I've bookmarked those and will keep an eye out to see if any of those make it inland to Spokane. Inversion IPA is the only Portland beer I've tried so far. It's one of those hoppier west coast IPAs that won't be a go to for me but I'm always willing to sample.

I'm liking some of Oregon's Pinot Noir wines too......selectively.
I am strongly into the west coast IPAs... to the point of really enjoying what are called the San Diego IPAs... admittedly some of these go too far... to the extreme of tasting like some form of varnish or paint remover.

But I do enjoy IPAs that use hops well... the best example I can think of that has pretty good distribution (albeit, it IS hard to find, none the less) is Pliney the Elder from Russian River.

Locally in San Diego, I quite enjoy Pure Hoppiness from Alpine Beer Co, or Sculpin from Ballest Point, or Bachelor Citra from Societe... a single hop IPA. All of the beers I have mentioned tend to have primarily citrus notes and are somewhat low in malts, tending toward a clean crisp flavor with a sharp hop finish.

I find IPAs such as Dogfish Head 90 min IPA a bit too "piney."

And of course various stouts and porters are fun at different times. Hard to beat a good chocolate stout -- Youngs Oatmeal chocolate stout being perhaps a great example. Guinness of course being another nice example of a very drinkable stout.
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I am strongly into the west coast IPAs... to the point of really enjoying what are called the San Diego IPAs... admittedly some of these go too far... to the extreme of tasting like some form of varnish or paint remover.

But I do enjoy IPAs that use hops well... the best example I can think of that has pretty good distribution (albeit, it IS hard to find, none the less) is Pliney the Elder from Russian River.

Locally in San Diego, I quite enjoy Pure Hoppiness from Alpine Beer Co, or Sculpin from Ballest Point, or Bachelor Citra from Societe... a single hop IPA. All of the beers I have mentioned tend to have primarily citrus notes and are somewhat low in malts, tending toward a clean crisp flavor with a sharp hop finish.


I find IPAs such as Dogfish Head 90 min IPA a bit too "piney."

And of course various stouts and porters are fun at different times. Hard to beat a good chocolate stout -- Youngs Oatmeal chocolate stout being perhaps a great example. Guinness of course being another nice example of a very drinkable stout.
took me a while to come around to the sd co ipa's because i found most of them aggressive. absolute fave is the alpine duet (but love the nelson rye and pure hoppiness as well).
all of societe's ipa are gorgeous and semi-restrained. ballast point sculpin still seems to be the local sd ipa that people go gaga about and people rave about the green flash stuff
but i've never found it to have the complexity or depth of the top breweries locally. still good tho. pliny the elder from nor cal is top-notch but usually one is enough for me.
hess is the one local brewery i can't wrap my head around. all their stuff is well made and nice but has a different texture...like it is filtered differently than other breweries.
unusual, silky body to their products. hasn't clicked 100% with me yet but i'll keep trying. ; )

we are both cursed and blessed in san diego county regarding beer. if i lived elsewhere, i'd probably weigh 15 lbs less but my beer palate wouldn't be as sated. decisions...

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took me a while to come around to the sd co ipa's because i found most of them aggressive. absolute fave is the alpine duet (but love the nelson rye and pure hoppiness as well).
all of societe's ipa are gorgeous and semi-restrained. ballast point sculpin still seems to be the local sd ipa that people go gaga about and people rave about the green flash stuff
but i've never found it to have the complexity or depth of the top breweries locally. still good tho. pliny the elder from nor cal is top-notch but usually one is enough for me.
hess is the one local brewery i can't wrap my head around. all their stuff is well made and nice but has a different texture...like it is filtered differently than other breweries.
unusual, silky body to their products. hasn't clicked 100% with me yet but i'll keep trying. ; )

we are both cursed and blessed in san diego county regarding beer. if i lived elsewhere, i'd probably weigh 15 lbs less but my beer palate wouldn't be as sated. decisions...
I hear ya.
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We have a few stores that stock products from far away, I just haven't been brave enough to try a lot of them.

There are a half dozen different brands/varieties that I buy frequently so I don't have a lot of incentive to try other brands. One of my favorites was Michelob Amber Bock but I have not been able to find it lately, I'm afraid it might have been discontinued.
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We have a few stores that stock products from far away, I just haven't been brave enough to try a lot of them.

There are a half dozen different brands/varieties that I buy frequently so I don't have a lot of incentive to try other brands. One of my favorites was Michelob Amber Bock but I have not been able to find it lately, I'm afraid it might have been discontinued.
Far away? Like what? Still domestic? Tastes change. I used to dislike anything bitter. Now it's my first choice. Then again, good beers were not available in the states when I came of drinking age (early 80's). The last 10-15 years have been fantastic. No need to settle for bottles/cans of sadness. Trying new stuff is half the adventure.
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I know I said I wouldn't review any more local brewery beers but this Seattle IPA is such a darned tasty one. Any of you guys who dislike IPAs might want to try this excellently balanced "Pike" brand if you live in the Pacific Northwest. Picked this up at a Spokane Safeway actually. It's quickly replacing "Sierra Nevada Torpedo" and even the "SuperGoose" as my favorite IPA.....Just the right amount of extra hops taste without being overwhelming for anybody I would imagine. It's gonna be hard sampling other brands now without going straight to this one.

Little family owned Seattle brewery that gets it's hops from Yakima Washington.
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