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    anyone watch doomsday prepers?

    anyone watch doomsday prepers? some of it is silly but there is still lots to learn

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    Quote Originally Posted by windhchaser View Post
    anyone watch doomsday prepers? some of it is silly but there is still lots to learn
    I watch it and take most of it with a grain of salt. Some things are worth investigated further, but there is no way I would let the entire viewing public know of my plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnurledNut View Post
    I watch it and take most of it with a grain of salt. Some things are worth investigated further, but there is no way I would let the entire viewing public know of my plans.
    Before Y2K, I remember reading this article on a prepper who had found a "perfect" place and read everything he was doing. Then I realized that he had moved to a place about 8 miles away from me. I lived in the suburbs.
    "He who serves all, best serves himself" Jack London

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    I don't care if you are on a unicycle, as long as you're not using a motor to get places you get props from me. We're here to support each other. Share ideas, and motivate one another to actually keep doing it.

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    Preppers need to learn to ride bikes. Fuel will only last a few days. Prep now! Ride a bike.
    Putting the fun between my legs.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet View Post
    Preppers need to learn to ride bikes. Fuel will only last a few days. Prep now! Ride a bike.
    Besides the health aspects of riding, thats another reason to own bikes.

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    im confused how do bikes help us prep?

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    Quote Originally Posted by windhchaser View Post
    im confused how do bikes help us prep?
    Preppers prep for a major catastrophe. Usually when a major storm or something happens the power goes out. No power = no gas. Even if you stockpiled gas it will only last so long. How are you going to get around? Imagine a prepper in the country who finally runs out of gas and needs to get somewhere like a family member's house. You think someone who has not ridden in years is capable of riding a bike long distance?

    Another thing about bikes is the stealthiness. You know how when on a bike you can sneak up on wild animals and startle them? A bike is the perfect, silent hunting vehicle.
    Putting the fun between my legs.......
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    I'm in the middle of converting a utility van to living space, which will include heat & cooking (propane), water (stored + filter), electric (solar). In prepper terms, it is a bug-out vehicle; for the less deranged it's called vandwelling. I've also been buying physical silver bullion and junk silver coin, another prepper/survivalist favorite. With a full tank of gas, I can get about 360 mi away from... wherever, but in a SHTF situation, once the gas runs out more generally, I'd better be parked somewhere I want to be... Also not bothering with firearms, so it could certainly be taken from me at gunpoint. Kind of lame, as a prepper, really. Not watching the show, but I am lurking on a couple different vandweller sites. The actual crossover between vandwellers and preppers is not as great as I'd have thought.
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    I know next to nothing. I am frequently wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet View Post
    Another thing about bikes is the stealthiness. You know how when on a bike you can sneak up on wild animals and startle them? A bike is the perfect, silent hunting vehicle.
    "He who serves all, best serves himself" Jack London

    Quote Originally Posted by Bjforrestal View Post
    I don't care if you are on a unicycle, as long as you're not using a motor to get places you get props from me. We're here to support each other. Share ideas, and motivate one another to actually keep doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet View Post
    Preppers prep for a major catastrophe. Usually when a major storm or something happens the power goes out. No power = no gas. Even if you stockpiled gas it will only last so long. How are you going to get around? Imagine a prepper in the country who finally runs out of gas and needs to get somewhere like a family member's house. You think someone who has not ridden in years is capable of riding a bike long distance?
    Heck, how many 'muricans could even hoof it ten miles with a modest twenty or so pounds of gear in a backpack?

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    Yeah preppers always go overboard on fueled vehicles-4 wheelers little motorcycles
    Within 1 month of any "disruption" fuel becomes very hard to find.
    Even minor disruptions-Issac slow moving cat 1 hurricane-power is lost-meaning no gas stations.
    Many folks have gasoline generators-using 1/3 gallon/hr to drive a SMALL AC (700 WATTS)-FRIDGE-TV couple lights radio-averaging maybe 1000 watts- 8 gallons or so per day if you don't rest the generator.
    In short order you run out of fuel.
    And gasoline "goes bad" despite various stabilizers-maybe it is useable for 1 -2 years-if you prevent evaporation-keep it out of the sun.

    In any case-bicycles-tubes tires pumps(several pumps)-probably MTB rigid bikes are best- good idea-since fuel becomes a BIG problem in any emergency.Same story on cooking fuel-same story water same story food

    Not sure precious metals are a smart move-in real big time SOCIETY DISRUPTION??
    Why would anyone trade food for silver?? Worthless -too soft to use as metal-strictly for decorations-and in a BIG TIME SOCIETY DISRUPTION
    no one will care about decoration for many years.

    Yeah tools seeds medical supplies-stock up on knives or axes saws hammers nails screws- farming implements-
    mattocks great all purpose small garden tool-
    wood splitting tools
    HUGE amounts of storable grain/beans/salt/pepper
    Forget that silver-
    besides you can sell good quality tools(buy used)

    Remember-spices-pepper and others-Crazy Europeans sailed 1/2 way around the world?? spent 2 or more years -FREQUENTLY DIED- just to get spices(and ceramics perhaps silk-)
    Drugs opiates perhaps opium poppies-seeds-probably marijuanna seeds-would be worthwhile to stockpile
    And antibiotics various anti septics (silver is actually a decent anti microbial-topically perhaps ground extremely extremely fine if all you have is elemental silver)
    silver goes up and down in value

    Yeah food water water purification iodine seeds tools flint and steel(fire)
    LOTS OF TOOLS LOTS OF SEEDS LOTS OF DRUGS SALT lots of salt maybe a ton of salt(cheap)
    SPICES- folks are crazy they will want spices before they want silver/gold
    Bikes tires tubes cables maybe
    Firearms and ammunition-but not for hunting-there won't be any game in most places after a month or so
    forget the silver/gold


    No I don't plan to stockpile anything-unlikely event-besides with firearms you just ambush someone(kidding)

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    Why should I go crazy prepping?

    I'm in So Cal. If things really go South I'm in a frimping (made up word, but I'm not the one who made it up, it does have a nice dirty meaning) desert with millions of other people. A butchers yard within days if all order is gone. Better to have enough booze to go out happy.

    Now if just temporary disorder then I'm king. I BBQ a lot and have reserves. I won't go hungry got weeks, though after 1 or 2 weeks the menu may get boring.

    There is no safe haven within 100s of miles. Even the offshore islands will have far too many people sailing to them. Best to have a *** , plenty of booze and one shot. Get nice and drunk and then end it.
    Perish any man who suspects that these men either did or suffered anything unseemly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoebeisis View Post
    forget the silver/gold
    Preppers keep precious metals for a currency collapse. You are correct that it would be basically worthless in a true, sudden disaster situation, but The End will probably be preceded by a financial meltdown, hyperinflation, etc.

    At least that's the thinking with preppers, survivalists, and the like. I'm into it for other reasons -- like I said, I'm not a prepper.

    There's accounts of what happens when everything goes wrong. Of the two I read, one was from Argentina when their economy melted down, the other was an account from Bosnia during the war there. Things to have are food and medical supplies; the popular trade items were cigarette lighters, cigarettes, and alcohol.
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    Reminds me. In 99 when people were excited about y2k I thought about what I could hoard. Don't drink so not alcohol. Finally decided on expensive preserves and jams. I know it's stupid but so what? The whole thing was kinda silly.

    Long story short, late December I look at the supplies. There's one jar left. My brother had been eating them all along. Que sera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet View Post
    Another thing about bikes is the stealthiness. You know how when on a bike you can sneak up on wild animals and startle them? A bike is the perfect, silent hunting vehicle.
    I used to do this when I was dating.
    People are broad-minded. They'll accept the fact that a person can be an alcoholic, a dope fiend, a wife beater and even a newspaperman, but if a man doesn't drive, there's something wrong with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by windhchaser View Post
    anyone watch doomsday prepers?
    I am not a big TV watcher but I have seen some of those shows. Crazy people seem to be naturally entertaining. The "crashes" those people prepare for can't be overcome by individuals. It really does take a community of skills to maintain a modern lifestyle.

    But literally.... everyone in my family (me, brothers, son, nephews, very elderly mother) has back-up generators, and power, and alternate climate control. As well as months of food stocks. It costs no more to alternate the can of tuna you bought today with the tuna you bought 6-8 months ago.

    Being fit... being able to walk, run, bicycle to get around. Being able to labor, sweat, and breathe heavily without fear of a heart attack. THAT... is the best prep that any of us can do. Because when the SHTF.... there is a LOT of work that needs to be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoebeisis View Post
    Not sure precious metals are a smart move-in real big time SOCIETY DISRUPTION??
    Why would anyone trade food for silver?? Worthless -too soft to use as metal-strictly for decorations-and in a BIG TIME SOCIETY DISRUPTION
    no one will care about decoration for many years.
    I'm not so sure. Try to find a society where people don't decorate their bodies. Jewelry was one of the first signs of people.

    Though I admit that copper might be a better choice than silver if you want to hoard metal. People are going to be going back to trading ASAP. Silver is good eye candy.
    "He who serves all, best serves himself" Jack London

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    Quote Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
    Preppers keep precious metals for a currency collapse. You are correct that it would be basically worthless in a true, sudden disaster situation, but The End will probably be preceded by a financial meltdown, hyperinflation, etc.

    At least that's the thinking with preppers, survivalists, and the like. I'm into it for other reasons -- like I said, I'm not a prepper.

    There's accounts of what happens when everything goes wrong. Of the two I read, one was from Argentina when their economy melted down, the other was an account from Bosnia during the war there. Things to have are food and medical supplies; the popular trade items were cigarette lighters, cigarettes, and alcohol.

    Yeah light weight high value items-drugs and a way to light your drugs.
    I did mention the old style PITA flint and steel(would be nice to have steel wool-but that would run out-just like most consumables)
    Currency collapse-use silver as "currency"-hmmm this assumes there is some place on earth where silver would be highly valued-meaning a normal area??
    Still think as you mentioned cigarettes alcohol other drugs would be a better bet.
    Don't cigarettes "go stale" granted they still have full nicotine content,but..
    But I'm not a Prepper either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
    I'm not so sure. Try to find a society where people don't decorate their bodies. Jewelry was one of the first signs of people.

    Though I admit that copper might be a better choice than silver if you want to hoard metal. People are going to be going back to trading ASAP. Silver is good eye candy.
    Yeah copper better choice-it is pretty also-shines up-good conductor malleable ductile-much like silver-but much harder especially when alloyed
    people will still remember how to make a battery
    and there will be MILLIONS of tiny car "alternators" around-suppose they could be converted to hand cranked-assuming they have permanent magnets-car starters still do I think
    many old motorcycles had stators
    in any case it wouldn't be too hard to convert even an electromagnet alternator to a permanent magnet generator-
    plenty of electric motors around-solder wire-
    yeah we would have electricity-hand cranked-and wind electricity soon enough
    Not enough to waste on window Acs-but enough to run say small fridges-keep a group of batteries charged-get the fridge going.
    Yeah electricity-small scale-would never leave.

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    Never heard them referred to as "prepers" before. I've always known them as survivalists. I guess the survivalists have a more military bent to their style.

    Heh, I remember the Y2K craze. People stocking up on kraft easy mac, ramen noodles, Ensure (Stuff they give old people in nursing homes. Blech!)

    This aside, some scientists are saying that we are on the brink of the sixth extinction. If this is the case, if it actually happens, What's the point of trying to survive it? There won't
    be anything to survive for. Just sayin...
    I thought I was suffering from depression once. Turned out, I was simply surrounded by idiots.

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