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    Found on ride

    Went for a ride this morning and found these while doing a climb up the bluffs:

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    Recent rain must have washed them out of the hill. I live about 20 miles from Cahokia, so this entire area was heavily populated by Indians. Kind of made my day.
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    Super nice.

    (Disclaimer: I am not an archaeologist but all of my co-workers are. I work at an archaeological consulting company as a cartographer and have learned quite a bit about artifacts.)
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    What's the round thing? I'm thinking it is a jar lid.
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    I don't know the geology back there to say whether these are good tool stone specimens. I have my degree in geology, that has been helpful when looking at toolstones and lithic samples that the archaeologists find. These look like river rounded stones that were found by people to be useful.

    If I'm out hiking far away from the river and I find a rounded river rock I can be pretty sure that someone carried it to there at some time in the past.

    What are the laws there about collecting artifacts? Out here it's legal to collect anything on private lands but not on public lands. There is a lot of public lands in the west. Do you have public lands areas there?
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    These were washed into the ditch along the right-of-way. So it would be public land. I don't know who else could claim ownership. The bluffs are held in a trust in order to prohibit commercial or residential development.
    They weren't far from the Mississippi River.
    I also found a nice ax head a few years ago under similar circumstances. A utility company dug along the road and it was in the ditch. Here's all three. At Cahokia they had an ax head similar to mine, but they said it was for grinding grain. The display had a small grinding stone sitting atop the "ax head".

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    The Mississippian culture was pretty amazing. From Wisconsin to Florida, the core crop was corn, developed in Mexico. That speaks volumes about a very extensive trading network and communications.

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    When I was working for a seal coat paving crew in the '70s we were standing around in a panhandle Texas roadside ditch waiting for the asphalt distributor to start a new shot when a coworker spotted a perfect stone arrowhead just sitting in the ditch by itself. I watched him notice it and pick it up.
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    I was told in my Multi-cultural Education Class that the Native American population of America before whites arrived has always been vastly underreported, number-wise. The reason being we didn't want to face the actual scope of the genocide carried out by the settlers and pioneers.
    Around here, in the river confluence area, artifacts are everywhere. This place was heavily populated at one time. I've long ago quit picking up broken points and pottery shards.
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    This is a good book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eofelis View Post
    This is a good book.

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    Those are good books.

    I just finished this - "Cahokia, Mirror of the Cosmos". Excellent history of the area.
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    How far are you from the Piasa Bird sknhgy? I remember seeing that when we lived down there in the mid 60's and thinking it was cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no motor? View Post
    How far are you from the Piasa Bird sknhgy? I remember seeing that when we lived down there in the mid 60's and thinking it was cool.
    Not far. I ride past it several times per week. I have a 14 mile loop that takes me past it.
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    I would have thought there would be flaked edges?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sknhgy View Post
    Not far. I ride past it several times per week. I have a 14 mile loop that takes me past it.
    Cool. I remember that being a beautiful area, but there wasn't much there besides the highway and a parking lot between the painting and the river.

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