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Old 08-14-14, 04:35 PM   #1
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i cant belive i was a fan of this guy

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Old 08-14-14, 05:45 PM   #2
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Old 08-14-14, 07:33 PM   #3
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im pretty bummed i was his fan since i was a young kid i bought every album kiss has had
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Old 08-14-14, 07:50 PM   #4
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Never been a Kiss fan and no chance of that now.
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Old 08-14-14, 07:54 PM   #5
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I don't respect people who have no compassion; he may be rich, but I think character counts for more.
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Old 08-14-14, 08:19 PM   #6
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He's talking about people who delight in being a victim...who create drama for the attention. I can't say I completely disagree with him (the jump part is over the top, but I get what he's saying). We all have problems to deal with. It's a culture of victimization. It's almost cool now to have an addiction or dependency or mental issue. Some people want to be pitied. They want you to feel sorry for them, stroke their hair, prop them up as heroes for surviving their problem. They accent their issues so everyone knows they are a victim of something. All he's saying is, stop wallowing in your own sorrow and misery. Like he said, his mother survived the Nazi death camps and doesn't complain...your issue is very minor compared to that.
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kiss was my first addiction. it started in about the third grade with kiss alive ii being the first album i ever bought. it was a big deal. i remember mom driving me up to target to get it. it cost $13, which was a fortune for a kid in oklahoma city back in the late '70s. mom saw the four faces on the cover, gene's in blood, and said, "uh, are you sure about this?" i was, man. i was hooked like a hysterical beatle fan.

about a year later, three older kids on my block and i painted our faces to perfection (me as my guitar hero, ace) and went to our first ever concert at the big arena south of town. about all i remember from that show is the crazy man in the parking lot selling 'disco sucks' bumper stickers from the back of his truck.

a year later, kiss released a disco song.

and then it was over. i started listening to rush and the police and realized kiss is for children.

some good tunes though: cold gin, black diamond, hard luck woman, detroit rock city, deuce, strutter, parasite ... that's about it.

ps: several years ago, gene went real stupid in an npr interview. it was awful. we've known for a while he's not altogether humanistic nor artistic.

some people had their best moments in the '70s. hmm ... oh god, i may be one of those...
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Just don’t listen/pay attention to narcissistic, misogynistic, ignorant and megalomaniac people like Simmons……


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He's talking about people who delight in being a victim...who create drama for the attention. I can't say I completely disagree with him (the jump part is over the top, but I get what he's saying). We all have problems to deal with. It's a culture of victimization. It's almost cool now to have an addiction or dependency or mental issue. Some people want to be pitied. They want you to feel sorry for them, stroke their hair, prop them up as heroes for surviving their problem. They accent their issues so everyone knows they are a victim of something. All he's saying is, stop wallowing in your own sorrow and misery. Like he said, his mother survived the Nazi death camps and doesn't complain...your issue is very minor compared to that.
congrats you finally made it onto my ignore list...

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Old 08-14-14, 10:11 PM   #9
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Talk about bad timing!

Whenever you do an interview the reporter who speaks with you writes the story.... but writers have NO control in writing the headline/title of the piece. Simmons didn't appear to be questioned about or discuss clinical depression. The headline writer liked that angle and wrote it in.... then the editor can fine tune the piece as well.

Simmons obviously has much more concern for his own time than compassion for the drug addicted and alcoholic. And since he embodies a walking business which profits pay the bills and feed the families of his employees. His pragmatic views are likely appreciated... by at least his employees.

People aren't perfect! How can people have compassion for the depressed... yet can fine no compassion for the hopelessly pragmatic? Or those driven by work and success? Simmons is a product of a Jewish concentration camp survivor. Don't think for one minute you understand his childhood. Or HIS demons!

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Old 08-15-14, 04:27 AM   #10
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congrats you finally made it onto my ignore list...
Ok. I used to live in Hollywood and my brother is a music producer out there. Having an addiction out there is bragging rights. You know when some has-been actor goes to rehab and suddenly they are front page news again? Many times it is completely manufactured to get publicity. Seems like everyone on the reality shows has a therapist and it's a source of pride. This is not to discount people who really do have serious mental issues.
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Old 08-15-14, 05:44 AM   #11
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Just don’t listen/pay attention to narcissistic, misogynistic, ignorant and megalomaniac people like Simmons……
I don't have a choice. My mother calls me all the time on the phone. I feel I have to talk to her, or listen since she doesn't give any chance of you talking about anything other than her.
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Old 08-15-14, 06:10 AM   #12
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He's talking about people who delight in being a victim...who create drama for the attention. I can't say I completely disagree with him (the jump part is over the top, but I get what he's saying). We all have problems to deal with. It's a culture of victimization. It's almost cool now to have an addiction or dependency or mental issue. Some people want to be pitied. They want you to feel sorry for them, stroke their hair, prop them up as heroes for surviving their problem. They accent their issues so everyone knows they are a victim of something. All he's saying is, stop wallowing in your own sorrow and misery. Like he said, his mother survived the Nazi death camps and doesn't complain...your issue is very minor compared to that.
Can't say that I disagree.
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Old 08-15-14, 06:47 AM   #13
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He's always been a guy who likes attention and tends to speak in phrases that can sound outrageous or can be parsed as being relatively reasonable. Herein he's complaining about folks who just want attention in a manner that is designed to get more attention himself. A bit ironic.
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Old 08-15-14, 06:52 AM   #14
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The problem with people who think as Simmons does is that they believe everything is black and white. There are nuances and subtleties to most issues in life. It is, of course, a lot easier to just label things than it is to actually think about them. People who do this are often just intellectually lazy but we are also taught to see life this way, in part, by our media. Creating tension between people is drama and that's what sells. It's also what keeps us going after each other instead of addressing societies' problems. Which is exactly what the people who have power and money want. I long for the day when the Tea Party and Occupy movements realize they are not each others' enemies. That's when the fun and change will begin.
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Old 08-15-14, 06:52 AM   #15
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Just don’t listen/pay attention to narcissistic, misogynistic, ignorant and megalomaniac people like Simmons……
Can you actually be all those things at once? Around here we have simple way of describing all that: AXXHOLE.
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Old 08-15-14, 07:02 AM   #16
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Gene Simmons is a complicated character. . Genes mother survived the holocaust.

Sometimes Gene plays the devils advocate, sometimes he doesn't. Which was he doing in this interview?

I think that this story is more complicated than is being reported and hating on a guy while feeling morally superior is totally not understanding the issues at hand.

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He's talking about people who delight in being a victim...who create drama for the attention. I can't say I completely disagree with him (the jump part is over the top, but I get what he's saying). We all have problems to deal with. It's a culture of victimization. It's almost cool now to have an addiction or dependency or mental issue. Some people want to be pitied. They want you to feel sorry for them, stroke their hair, prop them up as heroes for surviving their problem. They accent their issues so everyone knows they are a victim of something. All he's saying is, stop wallowing in your own sorrow and misery. Like he said, his mother survived the Nazi death camps and doesn't complain...your issue is very minor compared to that.
Never been a Kiss fan (although I like a couple of their songs), and I think Gene Simmons is a world class D-bag.
That said, he's not wrong here, but probably could have said it better.
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Gene Simmons is a complicated character. . Genes mother survived the holocaust.

Sometimes Gene plays the devils advocate, sometimes he doesn't. Which was he doing in this interview?

I think that this story is more complicated than is being reported and hating on a guy while feeling morally superior is totally not understanding the issues at hand.

Anthony
yep....but then you're asking people to think, and that's just not the way of today.
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Old 08-15-14, 11:34 AM   #19
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It's a lot of sensationalism. For example, when someone takes a stand for traditional marriage, those in disagreement say that person hates gay people. Or if you object to abortion or some form of contraception, you suddenly hate women. Gene is saying he has little tolerance for people who create their own drama and problems...that gets spun as Gene has no sympathy for people. I'm sure he grew up hearing absolute horror stories from his mom and he learned to deal with his issues himself and not blame others or seek refuge in drugs and alcohol. I am sure that every person reading this knows at least one person who creates their own drama and seeks pity on a constant basis. Those are the people Gene has little symapthy for.
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I think that this story is more complicated than is being reported and hating on a guy while feeling morally superior is totally not understanding the issues at hand.

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you can think it's more complicated but his past actions/words tell me it's not. You don’t have to feel morally superior to think someone is ignorant who says
“I'm the guy who says 'Jump!' when there's a guy on top of a building who says, "That's it, I can't take it anymore, I'm going to jump. Are you kidding? Why are you announcing it? Shut the f*** up, have some dignity and jump! You've got the crowd. “

but then over the years he’s proven himself to be the words I previously described him as…..and a carnival barker.
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He seems to have his gentler side....

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I didn't know he was still alive. Nor care.
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from what ive heard he said sorry then delted his twiiter acct
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Old 08-18-14, 10:09 AM   #24
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from what ive heard he said sorry then delted his twiiter acct

Only after Robin Williams died. Talk about major backpedaling.
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