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    i have a couple flats of seeds started. soon they will be moved outside, though this depends on how much I want to gamble that spring is really here - despite the recent warm temps another killing frost is possible up here. As far as the time goes, neither biking nor gardening take up all our free time. veggies get planted in spring, perennials get planted sporadically. weeding doesn't happen much at all. biking happens sporadically; occasional morning rides before work, a lot of weekend 'practical' rides (i.e. for breakfast/groceries, to the bars, etc).

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    I can't tell you how many times I've moved into a new house, and there's evidence of someone "gardening" in the basement! Broken grow lightbulbs, walls painted silver, etc. You'd think there was some pretty flower or herb that was hard to find at Wal-Mart...
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    Hey Kris, you can find those herbs at Wal-Fart, just got to know who to ask, poor bast**ds have to make money however they can. Next time you move, tell the landlord that you insist that the grow den be functional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krispistoferson
    I can't tell you how many times I've moved into a new house, and there's evidence of someone "gardening" in the basement! Broken grow lightbulbs, walls painted silver, etc. You'd think there was some pretty flower or herb that was hard to find at Wal-Mart...

    Maybe they just had lots of Chia pets?

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    I keep a large garden. I always ride first, garden second. The gardening seems relaxing after a hard ride.
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    For the raised veggie bed: try 'lasagna gardening' or sheet composting. Basically, just lay down wet newspaper first to smother weeds, than lay on really thick, layers of compost, grass clippings, straw, manure, used coffee grounds, and some plant in this, pulling aside the layers and forming a planter for some soil and the plant. I just have trim to help hold it's shape, and you can just keep layering whenever you get material. My worm population has exploded, and one tomato plant I put in maybe two weeks ago already has blossoms. Saves you from all that backbreaking labor, and it works!

    As for the weird tomatos, there are lots of online places, like www.tomatofest.com, http://www.heirloomtomatoes.bizland.com/, http://www.seedsavers.org/Home.asp and so on. There is also a yahoo group called TomatoMania, that has a free seed bank. They do ask that after 12 packet requests, that you donate too. And I exchange with internet tomato friends.

    Out here in Californ-y, we have a longer gardening season and year round biking: so there seems to be time for both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by overthere
    For the raised veggie bed: try 'lasagna gardening' or sheet composting. Basically, just lay down wet newspaper first to smother weeds, than lay on really thick, layers of compost, grass clippings, straw, manure, used coffee grounds, and some plant in this, pulling aside the layers and forming a planter for some soil and the plant. I just have trim to help hold it's shape, and you can just keep layering whenever you get material. My worm population has exploded, and one tomato plant I put in maybe two weeks ago already has blossoms. Saves you from all that backbreaking labor, and it works!

    As for the weird tomatos, there are lots of online places, like www.tomatofest.com, http://www.heirloomtomatoes.bizland.com/, http://www.seedsavers.org/Home.asp and so on. There is also a yahoo group called TomatoMania, that has a free seed bank. They do ask that after 12 packet requests, that you donate too. And I exchange with internet tomato friends.

    Out here in Californ-y, we have a longer gardening season and year round biking: so there seems to be time for both.

    Thanks for the great tips. Sometimes I grow tomato varieites for their great names: Mule Team, Box Car Willie, Radiator Charlie's Mortgage Lifter, Arkansas Traveler. Do the inks in the newspapers pose any health risks?
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    Most newspapers are printed with soybased inks. Although not harmful, there are better things to uses as mulch for controlling weeds and maintaining moisture.

    We loved the box car willies last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirkeIsWaiting
    Most newspapers are printed with soybased inks. Although not harmful, there are better things to uses as mulch for controlling weeds and maintaining moisture.
    Interested to know what you are using. I spread newspapers last year but it was messy, need rocks to keep in place, keep wet etc. Ugly too..

    btw, I grow all kinds of vegs, all organic. Will be adding some flowers this year, primarily for keeping rodents away. I have been working with an experienced organic gardener since last year, (I have the land, he brings the expertise, we share the produce, it's all been working wonderfully ).

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    You can call your newspaper in production and ask about the inks, but yes, most are soy-based. Don't use the slick, color stuff. Lately, I've been using the pizza sized used coffee filters I find in the used coffee grounds from the local Peet's Coffee.

    The newest one I can't wait to see how they turn out is called Lampa Alladina, from the Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycliste
    Interested to know what you are using. I spread newspapers last year but it was messy, need rocks to keep in place, keep wet etc. Ugly too..

    btw, I grow all kinds of vegs, all organic. Will be adding some flowers this year, primarily for keeping rodents away. I have been working with an experienced organic gardener since last year, (I have the land, he brings the expertise, we share the produce, it's all been working wonderfully ).



    Ugly is right. I use shredded root mulch, it decomposes nicely as well.
    Rodents are generally not detered by flowers. They'll gladly those too. Try music.
    Do mix flowers and vegetables, for cutting or eating.
    I plant herbs in the flower beds. Stay clear of the mints.
    Limit your watering of tomato plants once they develop fruit. They'll be much sweeter.
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    Fall update: Hey! Although I'm very new to gardening, I've been pretty successful this year with the few plants I've put in the ground. I had my daffodils, calla lilies, gayfeather (my only success from the prior year), and now my dahlias are blooming like crazy. These suckers are HUGE too!



    The only problem is that I kinda messed up and planted all the whites together and all the oranges together. It's not a big deal, though, as long as they're growing!



    The frost is coming

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    Beautiful! Great job! You may be able to prolonge their life by covering them in the evening during the first frosts, no?

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    I maintain several small garden plots and way too many container plants. Outdoors I grow mostly herbs for cooking, but I also have a bunch of hot pepper plants that produced very well this year. I have a few hop vines for homebrewing and every year I have a nice display of morning glories & moon flowers. Container plants include trees, succulants, & ferns.

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    My dad has been a gardener all of his life. i picked up some of his skills but dont have the time or patience to do anything right now. You should see his porch and backyard . Gardening/Growing is another good zen technique that can help releive the stress and problems of the day.
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    I usually put in a few tomatoes, peppers, and melons. Proust had his madelines, I have the distinctive smell of tomato pollen.
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    wow, nice dahlias mirona!

    Our gardening year was co-opted by buying a new house. The existing gardens didn't get much attention, so became pretty overrun by weeds. I was able to salvage some herbs, which I moved inside last night. Next year we'll hopefully have time to do some gardening at the new place. Unfortunately, we've not had a chance to transplant a lot of the perennials from the old places.

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    I grow a garden and about 20 huge pots.
    In the pots I grow tomatoes and all kinds of different peppers.
    In the garden i grow radishes, kohlrabi, beets, string beans, peas, onions.
    I also have a grapevine, a peach tree, a jerusalem artichoke stand, asparagus, and yellow raspberries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FXjohn
    I grow a garden and about 20 huge pots.
    In the pots I grow tomatoes and all kinds of different peppers.
    In the garden i grow radishes, kohlrabi, beets, string beans, peas, onions.
    I also have a grapevine, a peach tree, a jerusalem artichoke stand, asparagus, and yellow raspberries.
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    kohlrabi

    Hmmmm.
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