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Old 12-21-05, 01:09 PM   #1
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Is there a value in having a clydesdale subforum?

What do you think? Is there a value in having a seperate forum for cyclesdales? Usually defined as men over 240 lbs.

There was a similar question posed some time ago, and response was mixed. At least as I recall. At that time I didn't see a need for a seperate subforum, but perhaps it is time.

Problems for larger riders:

1. most wheelsets [wheels/rims] are not build to carry heavy loads.
2. tire experiences with heavier loads will be different
3. wind resistances are much higher
4. braking puts more strain on components
5. many frames, especially Carbon Fiber, are not made strong enough.

etc.

Simple 2 question poll follows. Please select one response. Explanations welcome in thread.
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Old 12-21-05, 01:13 PM   #2
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Monitor-- please correct spelling in title from "cyclesdale" to clydesdale.

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Old 12-21-05, 01:17 PM   #3
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Poll is MIA. I vote "yes" to a Clydesdale forum. Count me in. I hope not to qualify by Summer, 2006.

You could also have a "ultra-Clydesdale" forum for those over 300 and the "UBER-Clydesdale" forum for those over 350! Why not also have a "fading-Clydesdale" forum for those who are seriously losing weight with cycling. The previous suggestions are all tongue-in-cheek (how apropos...)

Your suggestions on extremely reliable gear for abuse above and beyond the average racing rider are also spot-on. I'd like to see discussions on 3x vs. 4x wheel reliability, 14/15 ga. spokes vs. 13/14/15, and what frames are absolute no-nos for heavier riders.
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Old 12-21-05, 01:39 PM   #4
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A forum like this would also be useful to the non-egglike ~ info on how to construct a more durable bike is always good.
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Old 12-21-05, 02:48 PM   #5
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@ 225 lbs I would not qualify?.... what about the Height?

at 6'4" and size 48 shoes... I feel like a Clyde for sure at times.
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225 is close enough, add bike and gear and you're over 250. My guess is racers think anything over 180 is clydeville.
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Old 12-21-05, 04:37 PM   #7
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don't we have enough already?
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Actually, according to the USA Clydesdale Athlete website, a Clydesdale is usually considered any male athlete over 200#, and any female is considered an Athena if they are over 145#.

I say hell yeah. I'm tired of trying to hunt for stuff that lasts, and I'm tired of Bicycling magazine showing little sticks on their cover that weigh less than my left leg!
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Yes, from a "major" clydesdale (@310 and dropping)
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Yes, An awful lot of folk's are classed as "Clydesdales"
because we are.......
Older, out of shape, feedup with everything being made for the "stick"
crowd, would like to share with others who simply love to ride a bike
with no care for fashion cycling at all or now are "less" abled to ride
like the wind anymore.

Anything to help & encourage the use of a bike for cadio health is a plus
for all. It doesn't have to be fast only fun and comfortable. To many
folk's try a bike to thinking that they will loose weight... fast. To start
with these folk's should be given praise and plenty of help just riding
for the fun of it. The pounds will take care of themselves over time.

I've been drooling for a long time for a "built to my order" Worksman
because I feel safe on this tank of a bike with my 350+ weight.
Since I'm "less' abled comfort , durablity, and a safe controllable
ride is all I care about now. I just want to be back on two wheels!!

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Not all of us are out of shape. I'm 6'4", weigh in at 230#, with 19% body fat.
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One of the biggest segment of bicycle users does not have a forum-bicycle thieves. These bike enthusiasts probably have many concerns and questions that they would like to share with their fellow stealing enthusiasts. Sample thread: Are road triples worth stealing or should I try compacts?
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One of the biggest segment of bicycle users does not have a forum-bicycle thieves. These bike enthusiasts probably have many concerns and questions that they would like to share with their fellow stealing enthusiasts. Sample thread: Are road triples worth stealing or should I try compacts?
So - are clydesdales being compared to bicycle thieves?
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Clydes are generally defined as being over 200lbs (Women >160 are Athena). The triathalon folks have made that rule, BTW. Google Team Clydesdale. That said, we have a special meeting place: the buffet line.
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Not all of us are out of shape. I'm 6'4", weigh in at 230#, with 19% body fat.
Good. Now help those who are enjoy cycling by using a bit of encourgement. Not everyone can
reach a goal such as you have but still can enjoy cycling. No?????
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Yeah, and we can have a graduation party for those who graduate out I hope to soon and once again, be out of that category.
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The forum might be a good idea, but the euphemism is in dubious taste.
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Is this for road or MTB clydes?
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I am more of a road rider.....riding comfort bike now, but looking at getting into a road bike very soon. I find that the road bike forum is sometimes a bit too fast paced and many in there seem to rather laugh at "clydesdale" type questions as they think all bike riders should be 145 pounds +/- 10.

I would love a Clydesdale/Athena forum to talk about problems unique to a bigger rider. And since we aren't in majority, it would likely not be quite as fast paced as the roadie forum.
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Is this for road or MTB clydes?
I think the idea would be that it would be for Clydes/Athenas - period. Kind of like the over 50 forum is not specific to any particular "style" of riding. Just a place to discuss issues unique to being a bigger rider.
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I can move this poll to road or MTB to see if it gets more traffic and more responses. That's why I asked. If the big guys/gals in road and MTB don't frequent the general forums, you're not going to get much exposure for this thread.
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Why not have one? There is a completely seperate women's forum, and we all know how numerous gender-specific cycling topics are. So if they have their own forum to discuss saddles with holes in them, why not give clydesdales one to talk about rear wheels?
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Does anyone think I should move this to road or MTB for a few days, to see if there are more responses? I'm happy to pitch the idea to the administrators, but some feedback from other members would help.
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What do you think? Is there a value in having a seperate forum for cyclesdales? Usually defined as men over 240 lbs...

Unless the category was change recently, Clydes are anyone over 200. I feel no need to having our own sub-forum. Reason, Only real concerns a Clyde would have is if a frame, wheel set would support them and the even bigger question, where can I get cycling clothes that fit?

Here is a bit of a hijack but staying on the subject of Clydesdales. We should consider some one a Clydesdale based on body fat and not weight. Why, because a 66 rider at 210 would be more like a lean race horse and a rider who is 54 at 190 would look a lot more like a Clydesdale (be it a short Clydesdale ), even if all muscle. It wont happen but so what... gotta go ride now

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...We should consider some one a Clydesdale based on body fat and not weight...
Agreed - but if you're a Clydesdale (or Athena) then YOU know who you are and don't need anyone else's rules to tell you.

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