Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

View Poll Results: Should Joe spend his time to develop an ad-free version for donating members

Voters
41. You may not vote on this poll
  • Joe should spend time to develop an "ad-free" version for donating members before getting ad revenue.

    4 9.76%
  • I do not mind seeing ads if they help Joe pay for the forum.

    31 75.61%
  • I don't care either way.

    6 14.63%
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 33
  1. #1
    Banned. DnvrFox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Posts
    20,924
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Poll for Donating Members Only

    Joe would like to have ads for more revenue, but is waiting until he can develop a way so that donating members can have an "ad-free" alternative.

    I don't mind seeing ads - in fact, I might like to see what is offered, and I would not mind seeing ads until he can get an alternative format prepared, if he so desires.

    Do you agree?

    Please take the poll and let everyone know.
    Last edited by DnvrFox; 01-26-03 at 07:50 AM.

  2. #2
    Senior Member Greg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 1999
    Location
    Southern California
    Posts
    771
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Joe should be able to do what ever he feels is best.

    I do miss the Russian dating ads though.

  3. #3
    Ride Nekkid! A.troll's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Trollsville, USA
    Posts
    752
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    My boyfriend, Joe, will always do what is best for Bikeforums and the people who post here!




    Oh, and Gregg? Don't say I never gave you anything!

    http://www.people-finder.org/russian.html
    http://www.anastasiaweb.com/?source=overture
    http://www.russianbrides.com/

    There ya go, boyfriend!

    SMOOCH!
    Last edited by A.troll; 01-26-03 at 08:08 AM.
    So many men....so little time!

  4. #4
    山馬鹿 Spire's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Fuchu, Tokyo, Japan
    My Bikes
    TREK 1000 and a junk bike with a basket on the front to go to the shops.
    Posts
    1,398
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Before I answer. How many ads would be needed? Every Page, 1 in 2? 1 in 4?
    http://www.cyclistsroadmap.com/eng/ - Cyclists' road map. Checkout which roads are good for cycling and rate roads in your area.

  5. #5
    member Yo MikeOK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    YOzzzzarks
    Posts
    805
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Dnvr- that looks like a CNN poll, written for a certain agenda (sorry dude, I hate disagreeing with a Coloradian)

    I don't mind seeing ads, but I just think it is a good idea to offer the choice. And Joe is a techno-dude. Techno-dudes enjoy tinkering with code. Besides, it was his idea first. How do you know that there won't be more revenue overall from more people donating, just so they won't have to see ads?

  6. #6
    Just ride. roadbuzz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    C-ville, Va
    Posts
    3,244
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Of the options provided, I selected "don't mind." But really, I dislike some ads. I mostly log in via dial-up, so I dislike ads that increase page refresh time significantly. I dislike ads that flash obnoxious colors and make it difficult to even look at the page you're trying to read. And no x10 hidden camera pop-ups, just on principle. So, I guess what I'm saying is, if the ads are tasteful and have class, in keeping with the the general attitude that's maintained here in BF, I don't mind.

    FWIW, a forum topic will often send me off either searching for some piece of info, or to a bike retailer page for prices, part options, etc. My point is, sometimes clickable ads can be useful.

  7. #7
    Banned. DnvrFox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Posts
    20,924
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Originally posted by MikeOK
    Dnvr- that looks like a CNN poll, written for a certain agenda (sorry dude, I hate disagreeing with a Coloradian)
    Hey, why write a poll if you don't have a bias?

    I mean, I wouldn't want to waste the space and not get my point across!!

    Incidentally, it is officially Coloradan (I think!!).

  8. #8
    member Yo MikeOK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    YOzzzzarks
    Posts
    805
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)


    Your heart is in the right place. And as long as the ads are bike related, I actually enjoy seeing them. But I am a member of another forum that is setup similarly to what Joe suggested in the other thread, and it works very well there. Choice is a good thing.

  9. #9
    Oh God, He's back! 1oldRoadie's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Charleston, SC
    My Bikes
    Paramount
    Posts
    1,022
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I have faith in Joes values. And if he decides to place ads in the forum, then I know the ads would be bike related and would not detract from the forum.
    I can't ride and Frown!

  10. #10
    Senior Member cyclezealot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Fallbrook,Calif./Palau del Vidre, France
    My Bikes
    Klein QP, Fuji touring, Surly Cross Check, BCH City bike
    Posts
    13,147
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I would be pleased with the fourm with ads as long as the ads compliment the forums functions and the forum does not turn into a billboard.. And w/0 ads, we steady members should do a better job of helping out Joe... At least once a year.. There are enough of we hard-core members, seems we could make a sizeable dent into Joe's obligations..

  11. #11
    Career Cyclist threadend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Michigan, USA
    Posts
    551
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    What? A poll for Donating members only?? Why, this smacks of Profiling, McCartheism, Litigatism, Delineatism and Improvisationalism all rolled into one. I refuse to be singled out for exclusion.

    Was it Samuel Clemens or Groucho Marx who "Refused to belong to any organization that would have him as a member"?

    How to remedy such a travesty?

    PAYPAL DONATIONS

    To make a donation via PayPal, you first need to sign up with their service (details will be given when you click below). PayPal is perhaps the easiest way of sending money over the net, so please consider it - it will probably come in useful some other time!


    CREDIT CARD DONATIONS

    Your credit card will be billed by '2CheckOut', not BikeForums.net (2CheckOut.com handles all our card payments).

    All amounts are in US$. (Click here for a currency converter)

    $5 (Five Dollars)

    $10 (Ten Dollars)

    $20 (Twenty Dollars)

    $50 (Fifty Dollars)


    SNAIL MAIL DONATIONS

    We also welcome snail mail contributions. You can send either a Money Order or Personal Check to:

    Joe Gardner
    Po Box 10
    Provo UT, 84603
    USA

    Money orders and checks should be made out to 'Joe Gardner'.

    :thumbup: The checks in the mail Joe
    2003 Iceman Challenge - 2:34:55 - 897 / 2,000*
    2002 Iceman Challenge - 2:39:23 - 1093 / 2,186
    2000 Iceman Challenge - 2:49:18 - 1516 / 2,153
    *estimated

  12. #12
    Weasel Amongst the Snakes Viper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Posts
    183
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    What would a "No Add" (pay site) cost? Surely there will be a minimum?

    I didn't vote, sorry, there isn't enough options, one like "other" included might work. Not sure. :confused:

  13. #13
    member Yo MikeOK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    YOzzzzarks
    Posts
    805
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    At the other site I mentioned above (dirtrider.net) the annual cost is $20 and there is a lifetime option for something like a one time $100. Plus the paying members get some other things extra, like free email and a few "top secret" regional and club type sections that others can't see.

    They use Jelsoft there too. Joe- the owner there is Okiewan or something like that, he may be of some help, he seems to be a pretty cordial guy...

  14. #14
    BikeForums Founder Joe Gardner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 1999
    Location
    Holladay, Utah.
    My Bikes
    Santa Cruz Superlight w/ Roholoff 500 & Bob IBEX
    Posts
    4,257
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    All current donating members will be grandfathered into the paying member group for one year. After that, a 1 year subscription will require a min $20 donation.

    Current donation amount is whatever you feel the forums are worth to you. If you think you have received $5 worth of information, feel free to donate $5. If you think they are worth far more then that, feel free to donate that much.

    The subscribers will receive a lot more then just a no-ad's version of the forums; they will have access to a lot of additional features and benefits as well.

    I hope to have more details soon, but donít expect the subscription model to go into effect for another few months.

  15. #15
    BikeForums Founder Joe Gardner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 1999
    Location
    Holladay, Utah.
    My Bikes
    Santa Cruz Superlight w/ Roholoff 500 & Bob IBEX
    Posts
    4,257
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Originally posted by threadend
    What? A poll for Donating members only?? Why, this smacks of Profiling, McCartheism, Litigatism, Delineatism and Improvisationalism all rolled into one. I refuse to be singled out for exclusion...

    ...Money orders and checks should be made out to 'Joe Gardner'.

    :thumbup: The checks in the mail Joe
    Thanks threadend

  16. #16
    Dances with Rocks Dirtgrinder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Jefferson City, MO
    Posts
    1,441
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I don't mind ads, just no pop-ups!!!!
    If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough...

    To become a registered member of BikeForums Click Here

  17. #17
    BikeForums Founder Joe Gardner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 1999
    Location
    Holladay, Utah.
    My Bikes
    Santa Cruz Superlight w/ Roholoff 500 & Bob IBEX
    Posts
    4,257
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Originally posted by Dirtgrinder
    I don't mind ads, just no pop-ups!!!!
    i can guarantee there will never be pop-up advertisements on the forums

  18. #18
    Donating member
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    www.fantasybikerace.com
    Posts
    249
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I see how this issue is being addressed from the perspective of a user/member of the site and that is fine, but there must be some consideration given to the perspective of an advertiser.

    I, for example, would like to advertise here but it would be harder to sell me on the idea if I can't reach the members. That group is my target market. Folks who are: Knowledgable, interested year round, follow Euro racing, have opinions and aren't afraid to take a stand, etc.

    If you tell me, "You can advertise on our site but our members won't see it," I'm not sure if it is so interesting.

    Please don't misunderstand this. I'm not telling anyone how to run their site. I really like this site. Just consider how "the deal" will shake out from all angles. And perhaps other advertisers would be thrilled to get their ad in front of the non-members. I wouldn't presume to speak for anyone but myself...
    Click here to visit FantasyBikeRace.com

    FantasyBikeRace is now FREE to play!

  19. #19
    BikeForums Founder Joe Gardner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 1999
    Location
    Holladay, Utah.
    My Bikes
    Santa Cruz Superlight w/ Roholoff 500 & Bob IBEX
    Posts
    4,257
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Originally posted by easyrider
    I see how this issue is being addressed from the perspective of a user/member of the site and that is fine, but there must be some consideration given to the perspective of an advertiser...
    Good points. I have had quite a few industry people ask about advertising here, i have told everyone to save there money & put a link in there sig and profile. The more active they become, the more the members here will trust them, and in the long run, they will make a lot more money, and get a lot more clicks. I also know that most industry people will help the forums, if they see the site in there referral logs daily. As a industry donating member, the members here can trust the company, and know they support the sport on the net.

    I have enough things going to keep all advertising internal. Guests will see ad's for the benefits of registering on the forums, and affiliate program ad's targeted to cyclists (probike, magazines, performance, rei etc...). Registered members will see ad's for the benefits of becoming a donating member, as well as the same affiliate ad's.

    Donating members will have a choice in there CP to view ad's, if they don't want to see them, they can turn them off. Nobody else will have that option. In addition to the lack of ad's, donating members will have access to alot more features, benefits and styles.

    Just wait and see, it will be a fun year!

  20. #20
    Senior Member trmcgeehan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Somerset, KY -- near Lake Cumberland
    My Bikes
    1980 Univega; 1985 Ross; 1994 Trek 1400 -- all road bikes
    Posts
    757
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I think bike-related ads would be fine, and hopefully, informative. Would Krispy-Kreme be considered "bike-related?"
    Last edited by trmcgeehan; 01-27-03 at 04:17 AM.
    "I am a true laborer. I earn that I eat, get that I wear, owe no man hate, envy no man's happiness, glad of other men's good, content with my harm." As You Like It, Act 3, Scene 2. Shakespeare.
    "Deep down, I'm pretty superficial." Ava Gardner.

  21. #21
    Life is good RonH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Between Crystal River and Hernando, Florida, 6 miles west of the Withlacoochee Trail
    My Bikes
    I've had several since 1999 but have settled on my beloved 2001 Litespeed Tuscany and my latest, a 2015 Cannondale Supersix EVO
    Posts
    13,889
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I don't mind seeing ads - in fact, I might like to see what is offered
    Me too.



    Trollie, was that a picture of your cousin on the russianbrides.com website?


    Would Krispy-Kreme be considered "bike-related?"
    What do think about that question Matt?
    My bikes: 2001 Litespeed Tuscany---2015 Cannondale Supersix EVO carbon

    I thought of that while riding my bicycle -- Albert Einstein

  22. #22
    Weasel Amongst the Snakes Viper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Posts
    183
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Originally posted by trmcgeehan
    ...Would Krispy-Kreme be considered "bike-related?"
    After a quick century...YES!!!!

  23. #23
    NCAA - DUAL CHAMPIONS! a2psyklnut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2000
    Location
    From Sarasota, FL sitting in front of a computer spewing random thoughts!
    My Bikes
    Intense Uzzi SL, Masi Speciale, Trek 3700 Nashbar Single Speed, Old Cilo Road frame
    Posts
    7,965
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Don't mind the ads!

    Over a Ridemonkey, they have ads, and I click them when the new products hit the street to see what they have or have to say!

    L8R
    "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "WOW, What a Ride!" - unknown
    "Your Bike Sucks" - Sky Yaeger

  24. #24
    0^0 fubar5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Rolla, MO
    My Bikes
    Redline Monocog,Surly Crosscheck, Lemond Reno
    Posts
    4,056
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Uuum, where is the thread??? I think that ads would be a better deal than subscription.
    Booyah!!

  25. #25
    0^0 fubar5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Rolla, MO
    My Bikes
    Redline Monocog,Surly Crosscheck, Lemond Reno
    Posts
    4,056
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If KK isn't bike related, then I don't know what is!!!!
    Booyah!!

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •